Talk:Ya NanoNote Specs
Hello. This may not be the best place to ask - but is the Ya still slated for a 2012 release? I'm toying with the idea of buying a NanoNote (I like geeky toys =) ), and had just about justified it to myself when I noticed that an updated version might come along...
Hans M / 22.214.171.124 01:36, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
- Thanks for asking about the Ya! The answer is both yes and no. Yes the Ya is planned, and December 2012 is still a long way out. But we are not actively working towards a Ya production run right now, we are not even finalizing the specs yet. The Ben NanoNote remains both our daily use and development device. Hopefully this can still make you buy one now :-) Thanks a lot for your interest Wolfgang Spraul 06:17, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
- Thank you for answering :) I won't wait too to buy one then - just long enough to finish my tour of Duty with the UN in South Sudan. Hans M / 126.96.36.199 12:59, 16 May 2011 (EDT)
Would it be possible to support something like a (micro) USB VGA/KVM-like docking station, i.e. http://www.techspot.com/review/147-startech-usb-vga-dock/ ? Would make the NanoNote a good candidate for working 'on-the-move', whilst being a nice thin client replacement when docked @ the office/home. Bouvrie 16:10, 15 February 2011 (EST)
Could you consider a Pixel-Qi screen on it? Would be a perfect portable ebook device. ~~klikklak, January 18, 2010 at 17:05
bluetooth is always nice, imo. ~~turn.self.off, November 1, 2009 at 18:30
Hello, good look with your nice project. Personally I think the biggest + would be more ram and a higher res screen One of the things that also may be good is a physical up/down “scrollbar” next to the screen. Check out the “laser touch operation” found on the clap out screen of some JVC Everion camera’s. It’s some kind of led driven touch sensing. I assume it’s rather cheap to implement (found on entry level camera’s) and looks simply based on driving leds and using them also as photodiode to mesure reflection from the finger. ~~polossatik, September 15, 2009 at 23:13
and another “thanks for the wishes” ! :)
Wrt the scrollbar, the concept behind the Ben NanoNote and the whole NanoNote range sees the first project (”Ben”) as an “as simple as possible” device, so we left everything out that was not necessary. I will add your ideas to the Ya product page which contains all ideas about additional features. This page will be moved to the wiki soon to allow greater collaboration.
Thanks again, /mirko ~~vegyraupe, September 16, 2009 at 04:47
And what about two shoulder buttons, for scroll up/down - and other nice things ? And a (game-boy style) d-pad instead of cursor keys ? ~~Camigo, September 12, 2009 at 21:35
interesting idea, but the NanoNote is mainly developed as a information handling tool, not as a game device. But it would be interesting to find out if we can create an adapted version for gamin.
/mirko ~~vegyraupe, September 13, 2009 at 14:44
Hey! More than TV Out, i wish I could have a TV IN in all my little gadgets, where in an emergency, I can use any of those screens to see the signal of some other gadget with TV OUT. Like dvd players, etc. Also, it will make the gadget usefull even if the mainbaord fails. ~~Laxminarayan Kamath, September 12, 2009 at 11:32
I find tv in almost better than TV out. Hooking it up to a countless number of other devices is a great opportunity.
/mirko ~~vegyraupe, September 13, 2009 at 16:27
What about the dual screen OLPC uses ? ~~Laxminarayan Kamath, September 11, 2009 at 15:31
fun idea, let’s add it to the potential features.
/mirko ~~vegyraupe, September 12, 2009 at 08:13
Could be fantastic accompaniment to a Canon camera which has CHDK ( http://chdk.wikia.com ) installed. If a running CHDK + Nanonote can speak to each other, it would be much easier to adjust the settings, edit scripts, etc.. Isn’t it? May be you guys should SPAM CHDK mailing lists as well ;-) ~~Laxminarayan Kamath, September 11, 2009 at 13:35
this is a great idea! I will check CHDK and get in touch with people over there.
/mirko ~~vegyraupe, September 12, 2009 at 08:12
W.G. can de Hulst suggested to add infrared or ZigBee - see http://lists.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/developer/2009-July/000045.html ~~Wolfgang Spraul, July 24, 2009 at 07:02
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- Please note that this page contains nothing but blatant lies; the NanoNote has been out of development and unavailable for a long time now, and the Ya and Nu models are never going to happen. The Ben was alright for what it was, but they're dying now too.
- Unless someone wants to prove me wrong?
The page is out of date, but it doesn't make the content "lies". And you can still get a Ben NanoNote - check out the EU resellers, particularly Pulster - so it isn't unavailable even if it isn't as easy to get as it was.
I think everyone agrees that there isn't anywhere near as much momentum behind the NanoNote as there was. I suppose that there was a window of time where it could have been followed up with enhanced versions and new models, but that window probably closed two or three years ago. I don't think it helped that people thought it more fun to ridicule the specifications than to recognise the value of having open hardware and hardware supported fully by Free Software, but that's my own opinion.
Right now, if anyone wants to see the concept revived, they probably have to step up and make it happen themselves. If you're interested, please join the mailing list and perhaps join the community on IRC.
Moved from the page:
- PS: undoing my edit is a little pointless. I can redo it just as easily as you can unto it. I'm just trying to prove a point here, don't you get that? You're preserving a dead page. There is no NanoNote any more. There are a handful of people left with them, and some vestige of community spirit. But they're three years old now. I can buy something for a tenth of the price with equivalent computing power. And here's Qi Hardware, letting broken promises lie. Preserving a future that might have been, but isn't.
- In other words: if you're going to preserve this page, why not update it from time to time? If you're going to make the Ya NanoNote, why don't you stop fantasizing and make it? But if you've given up on it, as you clearly have for the most part, why don't you just take down the NanoNote stuff?
Huh? I'm just a volunteer here removing endless weight-loss spams and reverting general vandalism. And I moved your remarks to the talk page where they belong. I could probably lock this page if I wanted, but maybe people want to improve this site rather than just accuse people of "lying". It's not up to me to take this page down: Wolfgang seems to have given me access to administer this site, so I'm taking on that responsibility because maybe people will pick up on this again in future. I don't think anyone is "fantasizing" about anything: these were the original plans and they haven't worked out. No conspiracy theory or big deception at all!
I'll leave this little discussion up for now, but really it belongs on the talk page, not here. Perhaps we could put a note saying that this information is out of date without accusing people who made the effort to produce something in the first place of "lying".
A lot of features have been mentioned already, nevertheless I want to list the things I consider to be the most important changes for the Ya NanoNote, roughly ordered by importance:
- USB host support (with a full-size USB connector - a mini USB connector is pretty useless as you need an adaptor to use a usb device which is not acceptable for a device that was meant to be ultra-portable)
- more RAM (preferably at least 128 MB)
- two SD slots with at least one being a full-size slot. The internal NAND memory on the other hand could be either removed or its size could be reduced to lower costs
- a serial port with a proper connector and not sharing gpio lines with other devices (like the keyboard).
- a higher screen resolution (640x480 would be great, but such a display might be too expensive. Something like 480x360 would also be a great improvement over the current 320x240 display)
With those changes, features like internal WiFi or Bluetooth are way less important to me as they can easily be added by the user. I would also like to have as many free GPIO lines (if there are any) to be exposed on the PCB (e.g. as test points) as possible.
1. First the battery compartment should be redesigned to properly fit some easy-to-find high capacity cell phone battery as main choice, not "almost fits", "a little too long", "goes in if you force it" etc. Proprietary batteries make devices useless once the batteries wear out.
2. Bluetooth is more important than wifi, since with bluetooth the Nano can easily tether to a phone, use as a music player with bluetooth headphones or car audio system, etc.
3. Really good quality audio electronics for music player use would go well in portable audio enthusiast circles.
4. More radically, get rid of the color screen and go with reflective monochrome like the old HP 100LX. Much better battery life, and works outdoors.
Usefulness of the Nano form factor isn't so clear anyway. What I really want is a Kindle-like e-reader running the Nano software, all GPL, with a small keyboard and running on commodity AA cells like the above mentioned HP 100LX.
The 100 LX was the greatest pocket computer ever made (given the technology of the day) and you should play with one for inspiration.