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Trying to open the NanoNote project with Altium 2012102:56, 12 November 2012
Ethernet over USB120:48, 21 August 2012
TrustedZone aka TPM106:18, 24 July 2012
PSN and ARM TrustZone in Ben and 106:17, 24 July 2012
NanoNote for Sale112:01, 15 July 2012
Is Debian 6.0 a full distribution?522:08, 7 July 2012
Linux preinstalled?407:30, 7 July 2012
Ya NanoNote feature requests2519:44, 27 June 2012
Ben NanoNote user questions2013:30, 14 April 2012
General discussion906:07, 30 October 2011
captcha requires cookies111:06, 15 June 2011
Degap on Ben513:38, 26 May 2011
Supertux on Ben!101:45, 8 September 2010

Trying to open the NanoNote project with Altium 2012

Hello great minds! =D
Am really new on this project, and today I have ordered my first NanoNote.

This are the steps to reproduce the problem:
1. I download every file and each folder on the same way its presented online here: Folder "v1.0" from the Downloads section
Step1 Step2 Step3 Step4 Step5 and so on until I had downloaded all the contents of the folder "v1.0"

2. Then I open Altium 2012. And try to find some PROJECT file inside all folders without luck. Step1 Step2 Step3

Expected result: To find some "Project File" that vinculates to every file, and could work with all files by Jerarchy inside Altium.

Actual result: I have to import file by file. And then organize it again on Altium file by file.

My Questions:
- Question 1: Is out there some link I have missed maybe? So I can open all NanoNote files just by opening the "Project File" and then could work from Altium by jerarchy?

- Question 2: Is out there some FASTER way to could download all the content on the folder "V1.0" just by one "save as"?

- Question 3: I wonder if the content inside "V1.0" is the latest release about "NanoNote" or is ther is some other "Folder" that I sould complement "V1.0" with?

Thanks for your patience, I hope some day could be as great as your are!

Fuegofuego222:11, 27 July 2012

-Question 1: Those files are created by using Kicad

-Question 2: try wget -np -r ....

-Question 3: yes. it's the latest release. you can find the history here:

Xiangfu02:56, 12 November 2012

Ethernet over USB

I have been trying for months to get the ethernet over usb to work. Tried to do it in both Ubuntu 11.10 and Fedora 16 using the instructions on the wiki page but no success. I even replaced network manager with wicd and still no luck. Is there a trick to it that is missing from the wiki? I've searched all over the internet looking to see if anyone on any message boards has talked about this but I'm not seeing anything.

Zack06:25, 29 April 2012

Try looking at the instructions again as I've made a few updates. I found that Ubuntu would quickly remove the IPv4 address, but you can mark the address as "manual" in the interfaces file and then configure it yourself.

PaulBoddie20:48, 21 August 2012

TrustedZone aka TPM

I am seeking to purchase a netbook or single board who's processor does not have Trusted Platform Module (TPM) and a universal unique ID (UUID) that is visible online. Unfortunately, ARM Cortex-8 and ARM Cortex-9, which is in the Genesi linux netbook and the Hercules linux netbook and in some single board, have TrustedZone. TrustedZone is ARM's version of TPM. Do you know whether the MIPS XBurst in Ben NanoNote has a visble UUID and TrustedZone or TPM? I have my privacy and security and do not want to be tracked online via hardware UUIDs.

Freebirds19:40, 27 June 2012

No such thing under MIPS XBurst CPU.

Xiangfu06:18, 24 July 2012

PSN and ARM TrustZone in Ben and

Does Ben and SIE have a processor serial number (PSN) that is visible online? ARM Cortex A has ARM TrustZone which is similar to Trusted Platform Module (TPM). Does MIPS have a similar TPM? Privacy is very important to me. I am considering purchasing Ben and SIE if they do not have a visual PSN and TPM.

Freebirds13:53, 29 June 2012

Hi Freebirds

There is no PSN visible online or TPM on Ben Nanonote or SIE. from the CPU datashett and program manual.

Xiangfu06:17, 24 July 2012

NanoNote for Sale


about 2 years ago I bought a NanoNote. But after the first tests I didn't used it. So it was unused for about 1.5 years. Now I decided to sell it to someone who has an use for it for a fair price (about 90 euro). The NanoNote is rarely used and works proper.

I would like to sell it to someone in Germany because of shipping...

If this is not the right place to ask please tell me where I should ask.

I will try to be in the IRC and look if someone posts here.

Greetings he2

He212:46, 23 June 2012

Is Debian 6.0 a full distribution?

I am considering purchasing a Ben NanoNote to keep in my purse as a word processor. I was disappointed that OpenWrt is preinstalled. OpenWrt has only vi text editor which is not graphical. Is Debian 6.0 a full distribution? Does it have a graphical text editor such as LibreWriter or Abiwriter? I do not see a list of packages at

Freebirds12:02, 29 June 2012

Hello, to answer your question, yes the Debian is the full distribution for MIPSel. Than being said, one has to add on everything he (or I think in your case she, if you have a purse) wants with apt-get or dpkg. I myself run Debian Sid on my Nanonote and have not wanted to put anything graphical on it , but you could. A thing to remember is that you are working with only 336 Mhz of MIPS hardware and 32MB SD RAM. So LibreOffice is out of the question although Abiword may work albeit slowly. Debian is not as optimized as Qi-OpenWRT, or even JLime, so I am not sure what to expect in that regard. For a pocket word processor, you may want to consider getting a low-cost phone and leaving it unactivated. As long as the phone has a microSD slot, that may work for you at a more manageable cost. I plan to get an LG500G phone, which can be had for under 20 USD, for this very purpose. It even has a blackberri like keyboard and I'm sure it would get great battery life.

Jane02:37, 6 July 2012

Does Debian for MIPSel have a graphical desktop such as GNOME? How can Debian 6.0 be a full distribution for MIPSel without a graphical text editor such as Abiword? Does it have gedit at least?

Are you saying that the LG500G will boot to Linux preinstalled on a microSD card? Will it boot to Debian for MIPSel?

Or are you saying that the LG500G has a preinstalled text editor and to copy my text files on a microSD card?

Freebirds10:30, 6 July 2012

Debian for MIPSEL does not come with anything but the core OS and bash shell but that is considered complete. It is possible in theory to add GNOME, but I would not even try as it would take weeks to show anything. Some more likely candidates for a GUI environment would be: Ratpoison, dwm, Icewm, Matchbox, or the Gmenu2x that OpenWRT uses. The reason it is considered complete is because all the graphical stuff is actually extra, one can hack around quite thoroughly using only a shell. I do. It does not come with Abiword or Gedit.

What I am saying abou the LG500G is not that it will boot GNU/Linux at all, but that one can load copyleft GPL software onto the phone as-it-is that will give much functionality such as text editing/saving, reading EPUBS, etc. The programs install the same way downloadable games install and are written for Java J2ME. As such, the source is easy to read and modify and the programs should work on MANY phones. I already have a $5 Motorola em326G that I have set up with many such "apps" . So there is no operating system change on the phones, they just must come with Java preinstalled and then you can work with it from there. If this accomplishes your intended task sufficiently, then great because as a low power device, the battery life will be great (I get over 3 days of light to regular use of my Motorola phone!) Since you do not sound like a hard-core hacker, that may be better for you as the Java text editors/apps are inherently more visual, and there is no need for GNOME as the GUI on most phones is OK, at least liveable. Let me know if you are interested. Hope I was of some help.

Jane07:17, 7 July 2012

Great idea. Could you please identify the java apps and where to download them? Thank you.

Freebirds11:22, 7 July 2012

Sure. First of all, in general if you want to find more such apps, look for them by using the key words "J2ME [type of app you want] [possibly "open source"]

Sourceforge is a great place to look and you can use J2ME or "java phone" or MIDLET as a keyphrase.

J2ME just means Java Micro Edition. Java is a well established and ubiquitous language so if you wanted to learn it , it would be rather accessible. I recommend only programs that are Free Software because: you can usually email the developers and get great support source code is provided so you have the "four Freedoms" the quality of Free/Open Source software is virtually always higher.

I have ended up deleting all the "freeware" programs I have tried that are not Free Software because they have no support anymore and cannot be changed to get better so they in effect have no future.

For text editors only, here is one SourceForge text editor I use

you download the zip, unzip and place the .jar file in the Java directory on the microSD that is to go in the phone.

I strongly urge you to email me at ( so that we may talk at leisure and so that I do not appear to be plugging any particular brand or product and so I do not look like the big bad wolf trying to dissuade you from getting a Ben. I know of about 4 or 5 devices that would likely suit your needs better well below the current price range. I await your mail, thank you.


Jane22:08, 7 July 2012

Linux preinstalled?

I looked all over on this website and forum for discussions whether Linux is preinstalled, if so what version and what Linux can be booted with a SDcard. I use Fedora but am open to Debian if there is no Fedora release for a XBurst.

Freebirds21:49, 27 June 2012

After researching more, I found a tutorial on installing Debian at which had a link to I recommend updating your website to make it easier to find your software references. The two tutorials on installing Debian are much more complicated than simply downloading an ISO and burning it to a DVD. I would buy the Ben if either Debian or Fedora were preinstalled or if a bootable SD card with Debian or Fedoa were available for purchase. Would any of you be willing to make a bootable SDcard and sell it? Thanks.

Freebirds22:28, 27 June 2012

How much do you think it would be worth to you? It really should not be that hard to do, but I am not even sure if you have a Nanonote at this point.

Jane02:38, 6 July 2012

I have not purchased the Ben NanoNote yet. To answer your question how much it is worth to me, I will first give prices of other board's Linux preinstalled on a SD card:

Ubuntu preinstalled on a micro SD card for BeagleBoard xM $15 at sells SD cards with Linux for raspberry pi but their prices are in British pounds and I don't know how to convert into US dollars.

I would pay twice as much as specialcomp charges for a SD card with graphical Debian on it. $30.

Many ARM devices come preinstalled with Fedora, Debian or Ubuntu. This is included in the price:

Raspberry pi is preinstalled with Fedora from CuBox is preinstalled with Ubuntu. Lemote Yeeloong netbook is preinstalled with Debian. Hercules netbook and Genesi Ekiga netbook are preinstalled with UBuntu. NewIt sells SheevaPlug, GuruPlug and DreamPlug preinstalled with Debian.

More people would buy the Ben NanoNote if it either was preinstalled with an user friendly graphical Linux such as Fedora, Debian or Ubuntu or if a SDcard preinstalled with Linux was available.

Would you be willing to sell me a SD card with graphical Debian Wheezy GNOME or at sell it on Amazon so I can buy the NanoNote and SDcard at the same time?

Freebirds10:20, 6 July 2012

I must tell you that no one I know of has GNOME running on their Ben, and if they do, it has got to be really SLOW! The Qi-OpenWRT that the guys have worked so hard on is probably the best graphical option right now in terms of usability. This device is WELL below even the barest system requirements to run such a huge GUI as GNOME or even LXDE for that matter. Perhaps you are not the intendet audience for the Ben as it is mainly for developers. Maybe we would sell more Ben's if such and such were true, but for those of us that are drawn to it, it is already all that we want. We are not trying to be appl3, and make a mass-market device, but dreamers with a lot of experience and no fear to dive in and be technical. It is no problem if you are not one of these people! (But if you feel like you want to BECOME one, feel free to hang out here and see what you can learn.) If you have really simple needs, like wanting to pluck out a few text files and save them, I think you might use your 100+ dollars better, so send me an email ( or get in touch some other way.

If you feel like you really want to get a Nanonote, I can tell you the best graphical environment that will run reasonably with Debian is probably Icewm. In fact, here is a video of Abiword running under Icewm (but the underlying OS is JLime):

The video is some 2 years old now.

If you want a simple, small mobile device to have around, I have been experimenting with all kinds since '07. Again, shoot me a mail if you are interested because if you do not plan to develop or do serious programming, then the Nanonote is way overpriced for your needs. Hope that helps and you find a device suitable for you.

Jane07:30, 7 July 2012

Ya NanoNote feature requests

What do you want in the Ben successor, Ya NanoNote?

Wolfgang Spraul03:29, 31 March 2010

Solderless serial connector without interference with keyboard :P, IR (LIRC compatible) ,GPS, and/or some kind of low power modem radio like Jeelabs are using in his JeeNodes, I thing this tree "easy" to integrate peripherals can boost a lot the applications of such little device.

WIFI,BT are too much power hungry/complicated/qickevolving and bloated to include right now.

Tuxbrain09:41, 31 March 2010

I'm playing with my Ben Nanonote right now. Great little toy. :D

I'd love a Ya Nanonote with:

- integrated WiFi and/or Bluetooth (or at least: double SDIOHC slot and optional BT/WiFi cards)

- larger screen within current shell (why so large a bezel...)

- USB host

- higher capacity battery (2x-3x)

- optical mouse (like in Samsung SGH-i780: works wonders)

- backlighted keyboard

- smoother keyboard: Ben's keys are hard to press

- 2x-4x RAM

Fernando, 6 April 2010

Although it´s power hungry my wish for the Ya would be Wifi. Wifi really opens up a lot of possibilities. Also a larger screen / higher resolution would be great.

Regards, -Thomas

Td12:00, 9 April 2010

Some method of adding external peripherals or devices and external connectors for existing features.

Some thoughts that come to mind:

Several GPIOs - for implementing I2C, 1W, etc via bit-banging

CF - not just for flash, but also for CF WiFi, CF GPS, etc

WiFi - could be low power if a pair of decent antennas can be built in to the lid


ZigBEE - 1mW should be enough for anybody :)

Line-IN/mic connector

USB Host

UART connector (both ttyS0 and ttyS1 on the same connector)



An "expansion port" could be created that would combine more than one of these into a proprietary (but documented) interface using standard connectors, a single- or dual-row 0.1" pitch header (could be male or female), for example.

With the expansion port, it would be easy to create a prototyping board that would either plug directly into the port (remember the Handspring Springboard modules?) or would connect via a short ribbon cable. This would encourage development and help with troubleshooting.

With a little work, the external modules could supply power independently to the devices on the module or even power the Ya, appearing as a 2nd battery, reducing the need for a larger battery.

When using the expansion port or CF, etc, the device would not necessarily need to be contained within the Ya. For instance, the CF card connector could be about 1/4" inside the case, just enough to hold the card securely.


N3WWN17:33, 19 April 2010

if doing a expansion port, perhaps one could borrow the layout bug labs use on their modules?

T.s.o00:58, 12 July 2010

this port came to my attention:

T.s.o12:12, 28 August 2010

Some sort of wireless connectivity. Wifi, bluetooth, zigbee, anything would fine.

Zear17:15, 27 April 2010

Some sort of Pointing stick would be awesome! I would definitively buy one with this feature!

Urandom20:43, 30 April 2010

Thanks for writing this up!

Wolfgang Spraul01:56, 1 May 2010

kid of late but why not add a small vibrator small devices tend to have one to notify when something happen

Kristianpaul15:48, 18 July 2010

Ben already has vibrator, but nobody has dedicated some love to it

Tuxbrain01:47, 8 September 2010

Way a min, you mean it have the capacity to control it? or the tiny motor is hidden somewhere????? WHERE??

I'm aware of the Buzzer and yes nobody love it yet

Kristianpaul02:04, 8 September 2010

ups I confuse vibrator with buzzer :P, you can see the buzzer here is the circular thing on the right, I bet it should be not dificult to replace that buzzer with a vibrator.

Tuxbrain06:58, 8 September 2010

I am wondering whether Ya will still be Ingenic SoC based. I have some experience with JZ4750/JZ4755 based PMP/MID, so I'd like to give some suggestions. Though JZ4750 is more powerful, it is an BGA chip and is more complicated. However, it could support two SDIOs for WiFi and SD card, and it has USB Host and more GPIOs too. JZ4755 is QFP based and is cheaper and easier, however it only has one SDIO and no USB Host. Therefore you could support the SD slot and use the SD based WiFi Card instead. For the screen, JZ SoC uses SDRAM interface, therefore 32MB*2 RAM is popular. Of course, you could choose 64MB*2, but they are much more expensive. Considering the limit of CPU speed and RAM size, 4.3inch/480*272 screen is a better choice. If we do not care too much about the cost, we could use JZ4750 with SD(TF)/WiFi/FM/USBHost/Keyboard/UART/128RAM/StereoSPKer/CVBS/4.3inch480*272TouchScreen Or a easier design JZ4755/SD(WiFi)/FM/Keyboard/UART/64RAM/4.3inch480*272TouchScreen

Esuncloud01:56, 9 September 2010

An essential thing to add would be a NIC i.e wifi with a hardware on/off switch or an ethernet port.

also a normal sized USB host port to plug in regular USB accessories like memory and wifi sticks would be great

My wishlist:

- Wifi with on/off switch (would be amazing) , or ethernet port

- Normal sized USB host port

- Better serial interface

- 64mb RAM

- Widescreen to match the keyboard width, 16 September 2010

a jz4760 processor. at 700mhz, it would be almost useable as a normal computer.

Lkcl20:39, 25 February 2011

A small battery for RTC. Is is hard to implement? In Ben the time is reset once you remove the Battery or the the battery is drained for some time. which is very bad.

Also either there should be a line-in port or the line out port should be configureable as line-in/line-out/mic-in. I really look forward for Ya be be used as a good Digital storage Oscilloscope for moderate troubleshooting.

As earlier mentioned if the Piezo Buzzer is not finding much use case that it can be replaced with a vibrator.

Jeevasv11:06, 20 April 2011

Surely Wifi/BT/GPS/3G is the need for the day. For a device like this wireless connectivity is a must. Sure it drains the battery. But that is ok. Just implement a hard switch for those.

Jeevasv11:09, 20 April 2011

Things I think are in the realm of reality:

OLED display for lower power-consumption and better outdoor visibility.

More screen per lid (less of a huge border around the display).

More RAM (64M~256M).

A second SDIO slot.

Built in 802.14.5 "atben" with an internal antenna, and external antenna connector.

Optionally expandable battery.

Non-glossy display finish (hooray, glare).

Contention with other suggestions:

No Bluetooth/WiFi/3G built in, as we're trying to stay copyleft and steer clear of patent encumbered hardware. (end-users can use second SDIO slot for this if need be)


Perhaps (big perhaps, as OLED is expensive) a larger formfactor (like the Jornada 720).

A second CPU, or a single dual-core cpu. (preferably still MIPS-compatible)., 26 August 2011

Milkymist has almost all the features that I would like in Nanonote, better video capability, ethernet,VGA, etc. A companion device like a video player derived from Milkymist would be a good idea.

Radjovk19:22, 4 October 2011

I would like to suggest some changes in the Ben Nanonote keyboard. The dedicated arrow keys plus the volume keys could be replaced with number keys. (there will be 6 keys, need to find 4 more :)). The volume key actually could be moved to the side. It would be better if the keys usually used in command line the '>' and hyphen can operated without modifier key. At least there has to be locking for number keys. A home key also would be useful.

Radjovk17:51, 28 November 2011

If possible, either or both usb host and sd card slot not just microsd as there are a lot of fun devices that could viably be used then :D, 20 March 2012

Forgot, but maybe a minisd card slot. realy it just depends as microsd doesnt have many devices that use it yet or are available yet., 20 March 2012

my biggest wish is an integrated 3G modem. what I'm looking for is the cheapest, smallest, lightest computer for remote log-in into other computers. I have gnu screen sessions with always-on IRC, servers, my home NAS etc.

even the 3G plan would be affordable, transmitting text from and to unix terminal doesn't use up much bandwith. OpenWRT is an OS precisely made for networking and enabling internet access.

then in order of preference : - a higher screen resolution to cram in more text or make it more readable. 80 columns text

- bluetooth, this has many uses. small gamepads to play old console games, file transfer, limited network connection, audio, interfacing into micro-controller setups with a bluetooth/serial gateway, etc. But, SDIO bluetooth cards seem affordable. possibly the only common SDIO card.

- internal micro SD slot. I like that my expensive flash just doesn't hang outside.

- usb host. here you can plug in keyboard, a hub, powered or not, ethernet, wifi etc.

what I don't want

- wifi. power hungry, spectrum is crowded, public hotspots are filtered sometimes only allowing port 80 and 443. - ethernet : a RJ45 connector is too thick anyway. won't ever buy a laptop or netbook without ethernet but we can compromise on this and ethernet access can come through USB host or device. - huge memory or fast CPU

bonus specs : - video decoding hardware in the CPU, at least divx - FM radio just as with the Dingoo - whatever manages to fit in and costs nothing, 26 April 2012

No bluetooth. By default, bluetooth's UUID is visible. Hackers can detect bluetooth's UUID and hack the computer/tablet/phone.

No Trusted Platform Module (TPM) or ARM's equivalent of TPM which is TrustZone. Processor's serial number (PSN) not be read in userspace. Not be visible online.

Freebirds19:44, 27 June 2012

Ben NanoNote user questions

post any questions or tech support requests for your Ben NanoNote here...

Wolfgang Spraul03:25, 31 March 2010

How to display Chinese character in NN ? Since i cannot find /usr/share/i18n, and openwrt seems don't have "locale". So I don't know how to setup. Could someone give me a direction? Thanks.

Evanc315:55, 31 March 2010

the gtk program already display chinese. search 'stardict' in wiki. or you can try to port the 'zhcon' to nanonote, if you want the display chinese in console. I ready start a little bit on 'zhcon' :-)

Xiangfu15:56, 10 June 2010

I´m trying to communicate the SD port with a FPGA which simulates a SD card. What i want to do is to send a data by the SD port, any idea how to do that?

Luisklg23:27, 3 April 2010

I'm hard of hearing in noisy environments, so my application idea is a "smart hearing aid/music player/noise canceling ear phones", ie. I want to be running the thing continuously, with the lid closed, in my pocket, with (at least two channel preferably more) microphone input and two channel audio out.

1) Can it run with the lid closed? 2) How long will the battery last on one charge?

Thanks!, 16 April 2010

> 1) Can it run with the lid closed?


> 2) How long will the battery last on one charge?

I have measured about 5 and a half hour runtime with the display turned on and the cpu decoding ogg vorbis audio files. You can expect it to run some more hours when you turn off the display backlight (which you won't need anyway when you close the lid).

Wejp10:36, 17 April 2010

With only cron running (I was testing maximal battery time) it was running from 1 am to 6 pm, more or less. Around 15 hours, but without processing anything or the like, also the screen was off (it auto turns off after a while) and the lid closed.


[[User:RBerenguel|RBerenguel]19:52, 8 May 2010

Hey, what is the entry for the micro sd card in /etc/fstab? thanx for help Hans

Hans10:14, 27 April 2010

OpenWrt use UCI system, please checkout:


Xiangfu12:45, 27 April 2010

A few things. One. Would this thing be useful to make a robot with?

these questions are all related to each other, I guess, so I'll make them one big question. Can I get a graphical text editor (gedit) running on this thing without much complaint? Also, could I run a webkit based browser (like midori), or would that kill the system's limited RAM? And can I connect USB Wifi adapters to the nanonote, like an old Linksys b/g antenna ( for reference purposes)? It works flawlessly under other Linux distributions, but I was thinking about using that in conjunction with my Ben, to connect in a few places and get online, partly to show off, partly to have fun with it. Also, does the gmenu based GUI lend itself easily to running more than one program at once (e.g a small IM client, like Finch, and Dillo/midori/lynx), or will I mostly be running one program at a time? If it doesn't run well, how well does this system work with the byobu (Screen's more mature cousin) system?

That was a long one. I have two more, one's a technical, the other one is sort of random. So, on the technical side. It says something about shorting two wires for updating the Ben. How do I go about doing that? I'm pretty new to electronics, but in my experience, shorting wires usually leads to shocking the crap out of myself. If someone would like to post a tutorial, I'd be pretty happy with that, since I have no idea what I should do there.

Finally, in all the images of gmenu2x, I see that big dock on the top, and that little bar on the bottom. Is there any way I could reverse those, so I could have the big dock on the bottom and the little one on top, like a little GNOME desktop? It's sort of a silly question, but I wasn't sure., 20 May 2010

How can I emulate this software? Ideally I'd like to emulate this using virtual box with the correct screen resolution.

Also What programming language would you suggest I use to write for this device (specifically at this screen resolution)


Asdf0915:49, 10 June 2010

Hi, i am new to the nanonote, worked fine for a bit but now won't boot up beyond the open wrt splash screen... goes blank after printing -i2s mapping ok. any help?

River22622:00, 23 September 2010


Does the screen stay blank after pressing a key?

Did you flash your image or install any software before you started seeing this problem?

Before the problem occurred, had you set up your NanoNote to connect over USB? I'm particularly curious if you can still ping or ssh into the device.

Alan Post13:12, 24 September 2010

I have been playing with it, but i have not flashed it yet, and i can't remember if i have tried usb boot before or after this problem, but i know i tried it around the time of it.... but i have not tried to ping it yet, because i get a blank, and stays that way even after i press keys.

River22600:42, 25 September 2010

I have seen this before in cases where our NAND/ECC handling got confused by flipped bits and stopped booting. Fortunately several NAND and ECC related bugs have been fixed in recent months, so I would first try to just reflash your NanoNote to the latest software. Or try booting from a microSD card, and when you are at it you can try Jlime too.

Wolfgang Spraul11:10, 26 September 2010

Hi, I recently re-flashed the software in my nanonote and now it wont switch on, I cant even try to reflash again as I cant get it into USB boot mode and lsusb doesnt find it. No error messages on screen, I have tried charging the battery, the screen does not light up and stays blank and it doesnt appear to be powering up. Any suggestions?

Gunni15:08, 16 March 2011

the "unbrick guide" did the trick, spot of solder got her up and running again!

Gunni17:03, 2 April 2011

I've been searching for a long time for a device that is low on EMF emission (low-frequency electromagnetic radiation). Netbooks have about the same EMF emission as notebooks, but e-books have almost no EMF emission, even e-books like the Iliad which don't have a processor that turns itself off. Since the NanoNote has a low voltage battery (lithium 3V instead of 15V in netbooks/notebooks) and the MIPS processor it uses was originally meant for e-books, this could be the ideal device. Could someone tell me what the EMF emission for the Ben NanoNote is? Thanks in advance.

Nesterna13:04, 17 May 2011

Hi, I have a new Ben Nano Note and I am having problems getting it to switch on. It never seems to respond to the power on button, but can be made (sometimes) to switch on by removing battery/connecting USB lead etc. I have not been able to get it to power on today at all.

I tried the reflashing procedure, which worked, and the device powered on. After shutting down, it reverted to not powering on very often. Could this be a defective unit?


Grunthus20:58, 26 May 2011

Update: Pressing the recessed reset switch on the back of the base of the Ben, seems reasonably reliable in getting it to start.

Grunthus22:30, 26 May 2011

Update2: Still problems "powering on" today. A little progress however: when it did power up yesterday I set up ssh access with password via USB cable. Now tonight, when I try to power it up, nothing visible happens, however the Ben does respond to ping and I can ssh in over USB, just the display is not powering up for some reason.

Grunthus22:09, 27 May 2011

General discussion

post any questions about copyleft hardware, Qi hardware, fun and games, here...

Wolfgang Spraul03:26, 31 March 2010


I seem to not be able to find the electronic plans for the NanoNote. Where can I find them?

Also, can you tell me which company manufactures the NanoNote if that is not a secret...

Best regards, -Thomas

Td12:03, 9 April 2010

Schematics are here:

Manufacturer is Sharism at Work in Hong Kong, GGV in Beijing, and Sunty in Shenzhen, and then many other component and part vendors like Giantplus for the LCM, Ingenic for the CPU, Samsung for the NAND, etc. We want to document all of them, and all production steps, but it's a work in progress and will take quite some time.

Thanks for your interest in our device!

Wolfgang Spraul12:46, 9 April 2010


two month ago I tried to find a bank to get a kfw-credit (public credit with good conditions) to finance the development of a dvb-s2 router hardware as open source. No bank agreed, thoung I was ready to to provide 100% security for the loan. Two banks even offerend me a bank-credit for it after declining the public credit, I was very upset about this behaviour.

Anyway, I would prefer to work in a team. If anybody would be interested, I could tell about the idea of the device.


Peterka21:34, 14 February 2011

Can you tell us more about the idea?

Kristianpaul01:02, 15 February 2011

DVB-S2 router with - two F-plugs to be connected by coax-wire to LNBs to receive DVB-S2 - one ethernet plug to be connected to the LAN of the building - one powerplug

- to be installed near the satellite parabol antena / LNBs, hence to avoid coax cabeling and using the LAN

- to be used by web GUI to select the TV channel and to watch a received TV channel, no software to be installed on client - maybe later on some more protocolls to transmit into LAN

- Linux, VLC and a driver to interface the D sorry I break and will go on soon

Peterka17:28, 17 February 2011

- Linux, VLC and a driver to interface the two DVB-S2 tuners / transport stream decoders

- with two buquets (transponder channels), we have 8..10 TV channels to be streamed to 2..3 clients in parallel

- I found a Marvell ARM Microcontroller (see openplug) to best fitting

- from hardware to software all should be open source

- prototype versions could be sold for maybe 300€ (with the support of a credit), later on it could reach 150..200€ covering development and production cost

Questions, remarks ?


Peterka19:33, 19 February 2011

Yeah, Do you have public source code? also it use a floss-like license, There is a prototype running?

Kristianpaul01:03, 20 February 2011

I have a hand-crafted hardware prototype, done by a openrd-base and a sharp dvb-s2 tuner. I can hook it to a laptop (or even the openplug device) as the host- and development-plattform. There is no source code or repository yet.


Peterka13:37, 20 February 2011

I would like to purchase a used nano note

anonymous06:07, 30 October 2011

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Wolfgang Spraul11:06, 15 June 2011

Degap on Ben

Degap is a port of dega["Dega is a Sega Master System, Sega Mark III and Sega Game Gear emulator"]. Can someone compile & test it? It only needs SDL and C for compiling. You can find it under: .

Amoibos15:52, 16 May 2011


thanks for the link, you can also try to send such email to mailing list. 

here is the package I compiled:

when I run, it give me: root@BenNanoNote:~# dega degap: no ROM image specified

where I can find the ROM to test?

Xiangfu16:12, 23 May 2011

Thank you for that. On you can find legal(homebrew) roms. However some work is needed to speedup the program, i guess it makes perhaps 5fps.

Amoibos10:37, 24 May 2011


        [new package] dega: a emulator for sega master
        system and game gear which uses SDL

I am using this rom : it works fine. only problem is very slow. can not even play, it give me a lot output like:

resetting audio_len resetting audio_len resetting audio_len resetting audio_len .....

Xiangfu10:55, 25 May 2011

Hello, i have a new version with some improvements in speed(and removed some unnecessary parts). Next step, i'm trying to contact some developer from the MAME project for help in Z80.C.

Download dega-1.14-NanoNote-Edition.tar.gz @

THX amoibos

Amoibos11:03, 26 May 2011

updated: dega: using nanonote version source code

@Amoibos, please consider include this patch in next release.

thanks for the nanonote-edition. I tried with same 20em1.sms, still slow. but sound output is gone.

other small thing:

you package files mode is all 0000, like [d--------- dega-1.14], I have to run [chmod -R 755 dega-1.14].
Xiangfu13:31, 26 May 2011

Supertux on Ben!

I got Supertux running on the Ben. I used libsdl-mixer.ipk from OpenWrt because Supertux doesn't run without sdl-mixer. I just downloaded the Dingoo Binary here and it worked like a charm!

Sadly this has two problems: Sound doesn't work which isn't that surprising but the bigger issue is that it crashes on saving.

So i am asking here if anyone would like do a proper Supertux port for the Ben since being able to play Supertux on it will greatly improve its commercial success.  ;)

Here is the Source. Shouldn't be that hard.

Urandom03:44, 4 June 2010

Yes please!!!!

Tuxbrain01:45, 8 September 2010
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