Milkymist One accessories

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To fully make use of Milkymist One functionality, you may need following accessories. Some of them come with the Milkymist One set when you buy it. Some of them you need to prepare yourself. You don't have to have all of them in order to use Milkymist One. It all depends on what you use Milkymist One for.

Contents

box

Some starting points (there are more design files already, to be added...)

Samsung P410 box.jpg
Optoma PK301 box.jpg
Small box2.jpg
Small box1.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSRL-GUYqtw (whole thing, especially around 2:45 and after 3:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiB56qnFsEw

labels and stickers

  • product label (no made in, no MAC)
  • labels on m1 and camera power supply?
  • 'Milkymist One' for power cable, 'camera' for camera power cable
  • 'Made in Taiwan' for box
  • 'MAC xxx' second label next to product label
  • larger/new Milkymist sticker? ("video synthesizer")

case

  • we buy acrylic cases from www.raumfahrtagentur.org
M1 case violet 5.JPG
M1 case violet.JPG
M1 dmx video.jpg

power supply

Milkymist One requires a 5V DC +- 5% 2A power supply (DC power jack datasheet).

#1
#2
#3
#4
#5 came with 12V battery pack
#6 came with Optoma PK-301 projector
#7 Elementech (Optoma) replacable mains plug
#8 sent from szoboke for OBK-2010CW camera
#9 came with Samsung P410 projector
#10 Cheap 5V DC supply
#11 Cheap 12V DC supply
#12 Linear 12V supply, heavy brick, 220-240V only
#13 Planet POE-152 power over Ethernet 48V supply
#14 Power over Ethernet 48V injector
#15 Cheap USB 5V supply

IR remote control

  • Any RC-5 infrared control should work.
  • we probably need a remote control for a 'demo package' for retail shops, so that they can setup m1 and let customers play with it via the remote control
  • Sebastien says the ideal M1 remote control has 15-20 buttons

YK2040HX-D04

size: 86*40*6.0mm, battery: Button, NEC protocol
Remote-controller YK2040HX-D04 Front.jpg Remote-controller YK2040HX-D04 Back.jpg Remote-controller YK2040HX-D04 Battery.jpg

RM-L7

size: 90*48*24 MM, battery: 2*AAA
Mini-type Learning Remote Controller, factory website taobao link

MDK021

size: 86*40*7mm, battery: CR2025, NEC protocol? factory website
the PCB layout is almost the same as YK2040HX-D04, 3x7 buttons on the pcb.
YK2040HX-D04 RM-L7 MDK021 Front.jpg YK2040HX-D04 RM-L7 MDK021 Back.jpg

more info

  1. opened one of my remote controller, the PCB bring this company: http://www.jyetai.com.tw/en/c.htm
  2. http://www.jaecs.com.tw/Web/pdtype.asp?PdCate=1&PdType=2
  3. difference between CR2025 and CR2032
CR2025 = Diameter: 20 mm. Thickness: 2.5 mm. Capacity: 160 mAh,
CR2032 = Diameter: 20 mm. Thickness: 3.2 mm. Capacity: 220 mAh

cables

cable makers:
Shenzhen Choseal Industrial Co., Ltd.: http://www.choseal.cn
Shenzhen Millionwell Technology: http://www.jb01.cn/index_jb.html

Trs trs audio cable scaled.JPG
Choseal Q-560A trs-trs audio 1.8m, 8.5 RMB/pc, 50g
Ethernet cable scaled.JPG
Millionwell RJ45 cat5e ethernet 2.0m, 6.0 RMB/pc, 62g
Upward 90 degree USB cable scaled.JPG
Fukang upward 90 degree USB (for jtag/serial) 1.5m, 3.5 RMB/pc, 40.4g
valign="top"
Choseal Q-706 RCA-RCA video 1.8m, 5.6 RMB/pc, 91 g
valign="top"
Choseal Q-304 trs-RCA audio 1.8m, 5.8 RMB/pc, 79 g
  • TV-out
Software currently doesn't support it, but if it would the following VGA to TV-out adapters (S-Video and RCA) could make sense:
http://www.amazon.com/CONVERTER-S-VIDEO-ADAPTER-graphic-function/dp/B000S675JU
http://www.amazon.com/VGA-Adapter-S-Video-Cable-Video/dp/B000Y7T5UU

video in

Milkymist One has a triple RCA jack analog video-in connector (SCPRE datasheet), connected to an Analog Devices ADV7181B video decoder (datasheet). The only officially supported and tested input mode is PAL composite over the green jack right now. Support for NTSC, SECAM, component video, or even multiple multiplexed signals may be possible but is currently unsupported.

Milkymist One camera comparison

  • Current favorite: 1/3' ' Sony color CCD sensor, M12 lens mount for 'normal' lens (not pinhole), fixed zoom, weatherproof case, 12V

Landscape is same for every picture, results may vary depending on camera and type of lenses been tested. All pictures were taken from a LCD Screen using a canon A470 camera. Brightness in flickernoise was changed, this values was kept during all the test Flickernoisebright.jpg

TODO

  • What is the quality difference between 420 TV lines and 520 TV lines 1/3' ' Sony CCD sensors?
  • How important is infrared illumination?
  • How about black & white sensors?
  • How important is a (manual) zoom lense? Good to adjust to location?

OBK-3030CP4

  • market price: 180 RMB = 27.40 USD
  • manufacturer price: 130 RMB = 19.81 USD
  • manufacturer: szoboke.com
  • 1/4' ' color sharp ccd, 12v
  • connector on metal case? 4-pin: video out (yellow), gnd, 12V (red), voice (white)
  • M12 lense mount, pinhole lense

OBK-3030CP4.JPG OBK-3030CP4 DefaultLense TestLandScape.jpg

Colors are not natural

OBK-3130C

  • market price: 210 RMB = 31.97 USD
  • manufacturer price: 145 RMB = 22.09 USD
  • 1/3' ' color sony ccd, 12v
  • same 4-pin connector as OBK-3030CP4
  • M12 lense mount

OBK-3130C.JPG OBK-3130C DefaultLense TestLandScape.jpg

Image quality is good and lag is not so high

sinsyn.com SS-208C

  • market price: 85 RMB = 12.95 USD
  • http://www.sinsyn.com/Products/SS208-p646.html
  • documentation talks about "Programmable IC bus function: Color saturation, brightness and contrast ratio, self balance, exposure time and 2 times gain" - not sure how this can work
  • M12 lense mount
  • cable directly coming out of metal case (no connector)

SS-208C.JPG SS-208C DefaultLense TestLandScape.jpg

Image is good but misses some resolution, camera not react quickly if you change light sources

xinzl.com XL-3012CP4

  • market price 290 RMB = 44.15 USD
  • M9 lense mount, hard to find lenses

M12 lenses bought separately, mounted on OBK-3130C

OBK-3130C TallestLense Batch1.jpg
Left (Lense 1): wide angle (2.x mm?), 50 RMB
OBK-3130C MediumLense Batch1.jpg
Center (Lense 2): 6 mm (?), 15 RMB
OBK-3130C SmallerLense Batch1.jpg
Right (Lense 3): 8 mm (?), 15 RMB

ExtralensesBatch1.JPG

Pending label each lense with proper names and optical specs

flash memory card

  • Memory card is unsupported and reserved for our future uses
  • should we include a 1 GB or 2 GB memory card? the problem is that our drivers are not very robust right now, so finding a working card may be hard for the user... -> No since this will lead to more users trying to use the memory card.

keyboard

Some keyboards don't work, such as ones with integrated USB hub (Apple keyboards), or some Chinese keyboards (GreenAsia).

Keyboard USB ID Status
Hengmei

Chinese low-cost keyboard (45 RMB)

ID 1c4f:0002 SiGma Micro works
Yaoguangqishi ID 1a2c:0002 will sometimes issue multiple characters, or random characters (for example <l><return> when pressing only <return>), or spontaneous characters without any key being pressed
Apple Keyboard ID 05ac:020b Apple, Inc. Pro Keyboard [Mitsumi, A1048/US layout]

ID 05ac:1003 Apple, Inc. Hub in Pro Keyboard [Mitsumi, A1048]

does not work because of integrated USB hub
Logitech (probably fake) ID 0e8f:0022 GreenAsia Inc. does not work (no reaction at all)
  • new silicone keyboard vendors
Shuotai http://www.szstkj.com/en/ http://www.szstkj.com/en/products_show.asp?areaid=245&id=777&flag=0
Liming http://www.szlmkj.com/index.asp http://www.szlmkj.com/ProductShow.asp?ArticleID=100
 IMG 0509.JPG  IMG 0512.JPG  IMG 0513.JPG
  • Tianyu Technology Co., Ltd [Province:Guangdong, China]
http://www.tianyutek.com
http://www.tianyutek.com/en/productlist.asp?ID=Q62359Q981
http://www.tianyutek.com/en/productlist.asp?ID=Q8S42VT769
BRK1241, 24 RMB, 330*130*9 mm, 168 g
brk1241 the left is  plastic and it's single layer rubber. BRK7000 is three layer. BRK7000 is better then BRK1241
BRK1000 --> 38.5RMB
BRK7000(86 keys) --> 17.5RMB, 250g
they are not making TYMP61 any more. the sound is bad. so they stop making TYMP61 now.
  • Shenzhen Diya Silicone Co., Ltd. [Province:Guangdong, China]
http://www.szdiya.com
http://szdiya.com/html_products/Silicone-keyboard-111.html
  • Sinco Electronic Gifts Co., Limited [Province:Guangdong, China]
http://www.sinco-elec.com
  • Shenzhen Xishui Silicone Co.,Limited [Province:Guangdong, China]
http://www.xishui888.com/
*) Bi85 English, WJC-001 - from them?
*) cheapest silicone USB keyboard, 84 keys? 85 keys? What is the cheapest?
*) in which colors is the cheapest available - we only need 80 or 85 now
*) rohs/ce/fcc
*) weight
*) what's the price of the cheapest silicone USB keyboard that also includes a mouse?

mouse

  • good news - we haven't found a USB mouse yet that would not work with Milkymist One. We are not planning to include one, the GUI should be fully functional with keyboard.
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