#milkymist IRC log for Friday, 2011-09-16

xiangfuHi about the video in. for now we only supported the Green jack? right? the 'composite video in' not support yet.01:29
wolfspraulyes I think so01:36
aw_xiangfu, current image supports to full screen? https://github.com/milkymist/autotest-m1/commit/41bafe19cb49863ddd939ee55d89600b54670ca602:11
xiangfuyes.02:13
xiangfuaw_, you want use the new autotest boot.bin in RC3 test?02:13
aw_yes, where's the newest bin? thanks. :-)02:13
xiangfuwait. it needs attach the RC3 CRCs to the new test bin. I will create it for you.02:14
aw_xiangfu, great, tks.02:15
GitHub196[scripts] xiangfu pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/PdeOog02:17
GitHub196[scripts/master] scripts: cleanup a little if no new commit - Xiangfu Liu02:17
GitHub196[scripts/master] compile-flickernoise: remove useless patch, since we use rtems cvs repo - Xiangfu Liu02:17
xiangfuaw_, so I will delete this one: http://milkymist.org/updates/2011-07-13/for-rc3/boot.4e53273.bin02:21
xiangfuupload a new one there?02:21
aw_yes, upload a new one, the older one I kept here though.02:22
xiangfuuploaded: http://milkymist.org/updates/2011-07-13/for-rc3/boot.crc.ac5975c.bin02:24
aw_great, tks, with _.ac5975c._, so you can know which commit, right?02:25
aw_mm... i think so since you used the first seven letters of committed code. i got it.02:27
GitHub73[scripts] xiangfu force-pushed master from b804818 to 30d296c: http://git.io/DOsw5Q02:41
GitHub73[scripts/master] compile-flickernoise: remove useless patch, since we use rtems cvs repo - Xiangfu Liu02:41
GitHub73[scripts/master] scripts: cleanup a little if no new commit - Xiangfu Liu02:41
xiangfuaw_, yes. first seven letters02:41
GitHub41[autotest-m1] xiangfu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/MbrFKg02:44
GitHub41[autotest-m1/master] append_crc_len.sh: use git rev-parse instread of git log - Xiangfu Liu02:44
qi-botThe Openwrt build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-openwrt.minimal-09162011-0423/03:18
qi-botThe Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-09162011-0518/04:55
aw_xiangfu, be noticed that _.crc.ac5975c._ bin has a condition shown up: camera's output mixed with VGA pattern when first pressing 'h' then pressing 'd'.07:54
xiangfuaw_, thanks. I will fix that. not cleanup after take a picture from video.08:03
lekernelxiangfu, only green jack works atm, and this is composite08:14
lekernelmwalle, (early ack) yes, that was an attempt to increase resolution08:15
xiangfuoh08:15
lekernel(windowmanager) nope, using gnome now *g*08:15
xiangfuhttp://www.jonesvideo.com/09:45
xiangfuless function. and expensive then Milkymist one $595 :)09:46
xiangfuwhen m1 can load image. we can call m1 is a VIP device09:47
xiangfuVideo and Image Processing (VIP)09:47
the_real_crimpernice10:09
stekern    DINT_DC;                // Interrupts disabled10:10
stekernoops sorry10:11
lekernelhttp://www.eecg.toronto.edu/vtr/11:06
lekernelxiangfu, do you think you could make a very nice edited video with 1) unboxing of the M1 2) good camera setup with lights and black background 3) video stream of the GUI when writing a small patch from scratch (with comments)11:07
lekernelhttp://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/projects/cosrecos/publications/paper/fpl10beckhoff.pdf12:54
lekernel(just forget about the "security" aspect, it's easier than that to damage FPGAs... according to a xilinx engineer: just fill the matrix with SRLs and throw a walking bit pattern at 500-ish MHz in there, and you'll probably melt the solders. but the encoding information is very interesting)13:04
wpwrakso xilinx have invented the auto-reflow process ? amazing13:13
lekernelhttp://www.fpgarelated.com/showarticle/7.php14:11
lekernelhttps://bitbucket.org/cfelton/examples/src/tip/siir/siir.py14:13
lekernelhttp://www.milkymist.org/wiki/index.php?title=M1_launch_PR work in progress...17:22
wpwrakvery restrained for a press release. "could bring", "may also", ...17:34
wpwrak"computer-based solutions" .. hmm, so M1 isn't a computer ? :)17:36
kristianpaulis not a PC17:37
wpwrakbut i'd still call it a computer. worse things have been called that ;-))17:37
wpwraki think the overall tone should be a bit more assertive. not like in a research paper where you're hedging your bets are very careful to avoid any claims your colleagues will be more than happy to disprove17:38
kristianpaulvjing in 3 minutes is a good title i think17:39
wpwrak"hope that this can lead to" how about "chose this to" (and then maybe merge the two sentences. although long sentences are tricky in this kind of material)17:39
kristianpauland is actually true17:39
wpwrakyeah. we really need to bring that boot time down ;-)17:40
kristianpaulis this a launch for developers too?17:40
wpwrakdevelopers need no special invitation :)17:40
kristianpaul:-)17:41
kristianpaulwpwrak: when i receive my m1 it booted in 3-4 seconds i remenber17:41
kristianpaulwas damn fast !17:41
kristianpaulstill Early adopters?17:41
kristianpaulit wasnt the rc2 batch?17:42
wpwrakmaybe with the memory getting faster, it could compile patches in the background, while rendering :)17:42
kristianpaulor this time is VJ Early adopters?17:42
lekernelbackground compilation is more a CPU problem than a memory problem17:42
kristianpauldual core ! ;)17:42
lekernelit'd probably work easily with a dual-core lm3217:42
wpwrakyeah, the "early adopters" can be misread17:42
wpwraknow there's a plan :)17:43
lekernelno one knows about the "early developer kit", don't worry17:43
kristianpaulokay ;-D17:43
kristianpaulbut early still like..17:44
lekernel(and this is why I'm writing press releases now, which is quite honestly an activity that I hate)17:44
kristianpaulok is an arealy thing lets wait it get mature17:44
wpwrak(compilation) but i think before taking heroic measures, i think the compiler wants looking at. at least the bits i looked at (not code generation yet) look quite inefficient. not sure if they contribute much to the overall runtime, though.17:44
kristianpauls/arealy/early17:45
wpwrakthe joy of becoming an entrepreneur :)17:45
kristianpaullekernel: personally how you feel when talking ot other VJs?17:46
lekerneloh, they love this stuff17:46
lekernelespecially with the camera support and the new design :)17:47
kristianpaulexcelent, what they said about bought one? or making patches for it?17:47
kristianpaulcause the VJ people i know are happy doing all thet could from their laptop ..17:59
kristianpaulmy point is that milkymist *could* be better selled like a vide* syntheis "appliance" than a tool for VJ's, considering you can automate lots of stuff already18:03
kristianpaulof course brochure points that i thikn18:04
lekernelyes and they do that from a Mac laptop only because they like good design. fortunately, it seems they also like the M1 design :-)18:15
lekernelbut I could emphasize a bit more the "low latency" aspect though18:15
wpwrakwould a DJ consider routing the sound that goes to the speakers through the M1 ?18:18
wpwrakif yes, you could have effectively zero latency18:18
kristianpaul(design) and they dont matter have to plug external keyboard/mouse and screen?18:20
kristianpauls/matter/mind18:22
wpwrakthat's a nice substitution ;-)18:32
GitHub117[flickernoise] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to stable_1.0: http://git.io/RqnRwg19:31
GitHub117[flickernoise/stable_1.0] sysconfig: enable US keyboard layout by default - Sebastien Bourdeauducq19:31
GitHub92[flickernoise] sbourdeauducq pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/QFykiA19:31
GitHub92[flickernoise/master] sysconfig: enable US keyboard layout by default - Sebastien Bourdeauducq19:31
GitHub92[flickernoise/master] Merge branch 'master' of github.com:milkymist/flickernoise - Sebastien Bourdeauducq19:31
lekernelof course, we just _had_ to enable the German keyboard layout by default while we ship a US one :-)19:39
larscwhy not dvorak?19:41
wpwrak;-))20:10
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