| wolfspraul | aw_: you there? | 08:07 |
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| aw_ | wolfspraul, hi | 08:21 |
| wolfspraul | aw_: hi! roh needs the coordinates for the MIC hole, in http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/d/d4/M1_vga.jpg | 08:24 |
| wolfspraul | so basically our plan is - we will have a label 'MIC' on the VGA..LINE level (in between those two) | 08:24 |
| wolfspraul | there will be a hole, maybe 2 mm (?), and roh needs to know the location of that hole | 08:24 |
| wolfspraul | do you understand what I mean, and do you know when you will have the coordinates? | 08:25 |
| wolfspraul | also which size do you think the hole should have? roh proposed 2mm as a starting point... | 08:25 |
| aw_ | I'll provide that coordinates for it...not received a newest routing file though. probably within these two days. | 08:27 |
| wolfspraul | that's totally fine. roh did you see that? | 08:27 |
| wolfspraul | aw_: so you understand what roh needs, right? do you have a proposed size for the hole? | 08:28 |
| aw_ | roh, the placement of 90 degree for MIC will be the centeral coordinates between VGA edge and LINE IN connectors. | 08:29 |
| wolfspraul | sorry got disconnected... | 08:32 |
| aw_ | roh, the size of MIC case hole should not bigger than diameter of MIC. meanwhile the MIC doesn't be exactly and proposedly placed at the board edge. It's a small 0.5mm far away from edge to suffer from collision case to make noises. | 08:34 |
| wolfspraul | what's the diameter of the mic? I think it's like 5mm or so now, right? quite big I think | 08:35 |
| roh | i think of making a 2mm hole | 08:35 |
| roh | should be big enough | 08:35 |
| aw_ | roh, diameter size of 2mm? | 08:36 |
| roh | for the hole | 08:37 |
| roh | the mic behind it can be bigger. it also has only tiny holes in the front | 08:37 |
| wolfspraul | 2mm sounds good to me. | 08:40 |
| aw_ | do you means that there have only one 2mm hole in case for MIC? the diameter of MIC is 9.7mm | 08:40 |
| wolfspraul | aw_: yes, he is planning only one, 2mm diameter hole | 08:40 |
| wolfspraul | unless you say maybe we should make it 3 or 4mm? :-) | 08:41 |
| aw_ | so i think that you can make a bigger one and just less than 7~8mm. how do you think? | 08:41 |
| aw_ | wolfspraul, there's no 'unless' situation that shows up if we will have good sounds wave goes without interferences since now there's no one doing on drilling a small hole 2 mm or bigger holes experiments, or we just don't need it. :-) | 08:44 |
| roh | i just dont want to make it too big since then people will poke into it with stuff like plugs (the line plug e.g.) | 08:44 |
| roh | on my notebook there are 2 small 1mm holes for the mic | 08:45 |
| aw_ | it's true that this MIC seems that won't absolutely influence major functionality compared to this minor MIC thing. :-) | 08:45 |
| aw_ | roh, be cared that at least you know your notebook's MIC is the same diameter to the same of us. :-) | 08:46 |
| wolfspraul | good point about people accidentally plugging the audio cable into the mic hole! | 08:47 |
| aw_ | or its reciptance of Sensitivity is the same with notbook, so what i know is that i don't know now. :-) | 08:48 |
| wolfspraul | aw_: let's keep things practical. | 08:48 |
| wolfspraul | It's obvious to me, even without tests, that a hole will improve the mic's reception | 08:48 |
| wolfspraul | if I'm wrong, well, I take that chance :-) | 08:48 |
| wolfspraul | we have no time and resources, and it's not worth it either, to compare different hole sizes | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | so we guess! | 08:49 |
| aw_ | wolfspraul, with 2mm, yeap...avoid of accdentally plugging. :-) | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | and roh's argument seems very solid | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | 2mm | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | good choice | 08:49 |
| roh | ok. will do so. | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | it's better than rc2 (I think), and in rc4 we can improve even more... | 08:49 |
| aw_ | surely better than rc2. :-) | 08:50 |
| roh | i will check back with you for last wishes before doing the full run, but i'll order the spacers and rest of the stuff asap then. | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | roh: aside from the exact mic coordinates that ADam will give you, the next and probably last open thing are the button labels | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | let's see what Sebastien says about that when he's back | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | totally unlabeled is not good imo | 08:50 |
| roh | sure. thats why i will check back with you. | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | oh now I remember | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | we discussed the button labels before! | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | and I think back then our best idea was L ON R | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | l for left, r for right | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | maybe on the same height and font size like the IR ... USB? or smaller and closer to the buttons? right above them maybe? | 08:52 |
| roh | anyhow.. that still has a few days to get finally decided ;) | 08:52 |
| wolfspraul | anyway let's see about that one when lekernel is back | 08:52 |
| wolfspraul | I think L ON R would not be too bad, that's my first proposal unless something better comes in... | 08:53 |
| roh | need to sleep a bit now ;) and do some it-leftovers from the last 4 weeks of building afterwards. we were really down to 'security only' on a lot of systems. need to do some maintainance and work down stuff. | 08:54 |
| wolfspraul | sure, cya, and n8 | 08:54 |
| kristianpaul | shit, is me or iverilog have problems with FSM... always @(*) | 19:18 |
| kristianpaul | IDLE | 19:32 |
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| kristianpaul | LOAD_HI | 19:32 |
| kristianpaul | LOAD High 0 | 19:32 |
| kristianpaul | Next State 1 | 19:32 |
| kristianpaul | 1 is actually LOAD_LO but never got there.. | 19:32 |
| kristianpaul | hmm | 19:32 |
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