| lekernel | wolfspraul: hi | 08:11 |
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| lekernel | got an idea about the status of the elphel theora encoder? | 08:12 |
| lekernel | kristianpaul: no, it's not moving. so no update except that i'll remove all fedora references from the milkymist material so people stop asking me this question. | 08:24 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: I think it is only partially implemented | 08:24 |
| wolfspraul | and it has not been moved to newer camera models since a number of years | 08:25 |
| wolfspraul | and Andrey (the author) has a reputation of writing extremely hard to read and undocumented Verilog code | 08:25 |
| lekernel | I see ... | 08:25 |
| wolfspraul | there might be a jewel there though, I don't know | 08:26 |
| wolfspraul | a jewel covered in some mud maybe :-) | 08:26 |
| wolfspraul | the sources must be online somewhere... | 08:26 |
| lekernel | well I checked out some code yesterday from elphel which pretty much matches this description | 08:26 |
| lekernel | the weirdest point is that there's no test bench, but there sure has been one at some point. you can't write and debug a complete theora encoder by just downloading to fpga and not doing simulations... | 08:27 |
| lekernel | they just did not publish it apparently | 08:27 |
| lekernel | hi xiangfu | 08:31 |
| xiangfu | lekernel: hi | 08:31 |
| lekernel | what's up? | 08:33 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: that may be resolvable if you just contac them, I suggest the #elphel channel on freenode | 08:33 |
| xiangfu | lekernel: fine. I am work on nanonote last week :) | 08:34 |
| lekernel | did that, no answer. same on their mailing list (actually they even moderate everything including new subscriptions, so my message didn't even go through yet) | 08:34 |
| lekernel | if you're subscribed to their list, maybe you can post my message so it goes a bit faster ... I don't know how reactive they are, but not a lot apparently | 08:35 |
| wolfspraul | what is your exact question? | 08:41 |
| wolfspraul | the #elphel channel should definitely work, they read the backlog too | 08:41 |
| wolfspraul | you can also ask olga there if andrey is somehow not seeing it, then she will | 08:41 |
| lekernel | let's start with getting the test benches for this code :-) | 08:44 |
| wolfspraul | do you have the url of the code you looked at? | 08:46 |
| lekernel | http://elphel.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/elphel/camera333/fpga/x333/ | 08:47 |
| wolfspraul | last edit 6 years ago :-) | 08:50 |
| lekernel | yeah... tbh I don't hold my breath regarding this code | 08:51 |
| lekernel | I'm afraid the solution will be "roll your own", as often | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: as for responsiveness, they are in Utah, that's an unusual time slot for me and you probably too unless you have a lot of people in the US you chat with | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | so once you know the Utah thing, they are quite responsive, or used to be | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | right now I'm pretty sure they are offline though, for example | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | next chance, let me see. Utah Monday morning - still a long way out :-) | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | kristianpaul: what milkymist-related things were you waiting for in Fedora 15? | 08:58 |
| lekernel | well, they were supposed to add the lm32-rtems toolchain for example, but it takes ages (even though most of the packaging work was already done by the rtems project) | 09:00 |
| lekernel | FEL is really dead I'm afraid | 09:01 |
| lekernel | and yeah, I did ping them, many times, just to hear a new excuse every time. now I just give up. | 09:01 |
| lekernel | if they wake up one day, good. but enough on my side. | 09:03 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: Chitlesh told me he basically wanted to fold FEL into the regular Fedora releases | 09:13 |
| wolfspraul | if I understood that correctly he did not want the overhead and pressure of the FEL release cycles anymore | 09:13 |
| wolfspraul | just make it a group in Fedora, and then let Fedora do the rest. so yes, you could say 'FEL is dead', but from his perspective it's more about maintaining a group instead of a spin. | 09:14 |
| lekernel | no matter how they set it up, things do not get done | 09:14 |
| wolfspraul | also his main focus was the usability of these tools on the paid RedHat Linux, because that's what is used at ON | 09:14 |
| lekernel | even recompiling the flterm package with the new source code (with the gdb support) which should take what? 5 minutes? | 09:15 |
| lekernel | they didn't do | 09:15 |
| wolfspraul | what is the recommended devel platform now? what are you using? | 09:29 |
| lekernel | just run xiangfu's build script on any platform :-P | 09:32 |
| lekernel | anyway fedora would only solve part of the problem | 09:34 |
| lekernel | with the ~12 libraries (and counting) compiled for LM32 that Flickernoise needs, it's getting more and more difficult to get an "out of the box" development environment into a distro | 09:34 |
| lekernel | those sure can be packaged as well, but it would require a certain effort | 09:36 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: (fedora 15) urjtag from upstream, and rtems toolchain already included :-), may be llhdl as a demo?.. | 10:41 |
| kristianpaul | ah ok lekernel ;) | 10:41 |
| lekernel | huh? they added the rtems toolchain ?! | 10:42 |
| lekernel | wow ... | 10:42 |
| kristianpaul | no no, i'm asking if?.. | 10:42 |
| kristianpaul | i'm telling wolfspraul what i want for fedora next release related to mm1 | 10:42 |
| kristianpaul | but seems scripts are more universal those days :-) | 10:43 |
| lekernel | well, tell the fedora people, not wolfspraul :-) | 10:43 |
| lekernel | but tbh if you want this to move, you probably have to do all the packaging yourself then keep bothering people until it is merged | 10:44 |
| lekernel | which I won't do | 10:44 |
| kristianpaul | me either ;) | 10:45 |
| lekernel | there are already more than enough people on my followup list, which is quite tiring for me and distracts me from coding. so I just keep the most important. | 10:49 |
| lekernel | scripts aren't more universal, they just require less emailing around | 10:52 |
| kristianpaul | got it !!, i must go, 1 of may event coming.. :-) | 10:52 |
| lekernel | haha | 10:53 |
| kristianpaul | heh ;) | 10:54 |
| lekernel | it seems there is a huge riot in Berlin every 1st may night. will be my first today ... | 10:54 |
| wolfspraul | yes Berlin culture | 11:04 |
| wolfspraul | maybe it's similar to some riots in suburbs of French cities? from the news I thought it sounded the same... | 11:05 |
| wolfspraul | you should be (slightly) careful, especially since it's your first year | 11:05 |
| wolfspraul | but I think it's quite localized and ritualized :-) | 11:05 |
| wolfspraul | maybe with your long hair if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, some police may think you are one of the bad guys :-) | 11:06 |
| lekernel | yeah, usually it doesn't happen in my area | 11:07 |
| wolfspraul | unlikely though, no worries... | 11:07 |
| lekernel | it's more in the east (kreuzberg ...) | 11:07 |
| lekernel | from what I've seen the French riots looked softer :p | 11:08 |
| mumptai | aww, just don't dress like the involved parties, and look for somthing to take cover behind ;) | 11:40 |
| GraveDigger | hi folks | 13:44 |
| GraveDigger | is Sebastien B. around here? | 13:45 |
| lekernel | yes | 13:46 |
| GraveDigger | ohai | 13:46 |
| GraveDigger | regarding the rs232 uart, i didnt wanna start a huge discussion or such, it was just a simple question | 13:47 |
| GraveDigger | like | 13:47 |
| GraveDigger | was it supposed to be this way? | 13:47 |
| lekernel | no. but i'm not even sure the latest version does it. i rarely update the opencores stuff | 13:48 |
| lekernel | mwalle did some changes to the uart lately | 13:48 |
| GraveDigger | i guess the update source is available at milkymist.org? | 13:48 |
| lekernel | sure, and without registration (unlike opencores) | 13:49 |
| CIA-48 | rtems-milkymist: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r1ea2561 / c/src/lib/libbsp/lm32/shared/milkymist_buttons/buttons.c : Buttons driver: ignore offset - http://bit.ly/jKILAl | 14:11 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r2f3a5af / (src/main.c src/sysconfig.c src/sysconfig.h): Display dialog box to explain rescue mode - http://bit.ly/jnqSiD | 14:16 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r1ff1826 / src/flash.c : Rename pushbutton - http://bit.ly/ju890D | 14:16 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r91dcf3a / src/input.c : Map board buttons to F9/F10/F11 - http://bit.ly/lKNnRa | 14:17 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r22d1a10 / (src/input.c src/shortcuts.c): Middle pushbutton to power down - http://bit.ly/lc4gAq | 14:27 |
| CIA-48 | milkymist: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r2373578 / boards/milkymist-one/standby/standby.v : Standby: debounce keys, only power up on rising edge - http://bit.ly/lYb3yV | 16:15 |
| wpwrak | (german police mistaking people) well, a few days ago, during a demonstration, one tried to arrest his boss and treated him to a bit of pepper spray for good measure | 16:40 |
| wpwrak | (boss) not his direct superior, of course. the guy pretty much on top of the local food chain. | 16:41 |
| azonenberg | lol | 17:09 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * rf49776c / (src/sysconfig.c src/sysconfig.h src/sysettings.c): New system settings dialog layout - http://bit.ly/ljkuIH | 19:42 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * r33a127d / src/sysconfig.c : Bugfix: Use DHCP address when DHCP is enabled in default config - http://bit.ly/my9GoZ | 19:42 |
| CIA-48 | flickernoise: Sebastien Bourdeauducq master * re722120 / src/cp.c : New control panel layout - http://bit.ly/jHRqEw | 20:45 |
| Action: kristianpaul "safe" at home again | 22:30 | |
| lekernel | any good alternative to libcurl? its main problem is it uses GNU/Autocrap and GNU/Libtrash which, as often, miserably fail | 22:32 |
| lekernel | the problem du jour is that due to some obscure autocrap-libtool interaction, the gcc flags end up specified twice which doesn't work with the -specs flag used by RTEMS | 22:33 |
| azonenberg | lekernel: I'm intimately familiar with the failings of libcurl | 23:27 |
| azonenberg | one of my projects is in seirous trouble due to a segfault deep in the library that nobody can diagnose | 23:28 |
| azonenberg | But i havent had issues with its build system (yet) | 23:28 |
| azonenberg | Of course, that doesnt stop me from using cmake whenever possible :P | 23:28 |
| kristianpaul | libwww?... | 23:35 |
| kristianpaul | humm http://www.ucdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/11/0411252 | 23:36 |
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