| Fallenou | gn8 | 00:32 |
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| Fallenou | http://www.designspark.com/content/doing-it-hardware | 16:31 |
| Fallenou | lekernel: if there is a OSHUG in Paris, in Autumn , would you come ? | 16:52 |
| Fallenou | and present Milkymist / llhdl / antares ? | 16:53 |
| Fallenou | kristianpaul: you could come too if you want and present open source hardware project of yours | 16:53 |
| Action: kristianpaul is a far away from europe | 16:58 | |
| kristianpaul | And i dont have something serios to present yet | 16:58 |
| kristianpaul | but thanks for the info Fallenou !! | 16:58 |
| Fallenou | ok | 16:58 |
| Fallenou | too bad :) | 16:58 |
| lekernel | Fallenou: yeah probably | 17:24 |
| lekernel | http://www.designspark.com/blog | 17:25 |
| Fallenou | the M1 is in first page :) | 17:26 |
| Fallenou | nice ! | 17:26 |
| kristianpaul | missing a cap | 17:31 |
| kristianpaul | ;- | 17:31 |
| lekernel | http://oshug.org/event/9 | 17:47 |
| lekernel | This talk will look at what is involved in putting together an open source chip design. In particular the licensing issues represent a challenge, with standard F/OSS licenses having serious weaknesses when it comes to licensing hardware. | 17:47 |
| Action: lekernel remembers 'Opencores has such a tainted reputation in the industry. It was the butt of our jokes when we needed IP. "Maybe we can get it from opencores?" (laughs from the engineers)' | 22:34 | |
| kristianpaul | he, you really enjoy that, isnt? ;) | 22:38 |
| Fallenou | kristianpaul: I guess opencores guys have jokes about lekernel :p | 22:39 |
| lekernel | he, it's not my quote | 22:40 |
| Fallenou | oh | 22:40 |
| lekernel | it's jeri ellsworth's, and yes, I do enjoy that (or not, i'd prefer to be able to use opencores ip instead of spending time writing them) | 22:41 |
| kristianpaul | :-) | 22:43 |
| kristianpaul | ya,that will the proper | 22:45 |
| kristianpaul | apt-core install mico32 wishbone-mico32 tmu-wishbone | 22:49 |
| kristianpaul | :p | 22:49 |
| Fallenou | I've seen some tools to generate SoC | 22:51 |
| Fallenou | you specify the bus, the cores to use, the connections | 22:51 |
| Fallenou | it generates the verilog | 22:51 |
| kristianpaul | i loved the altera ones :-) | 22:51 |
| Fallenou | I think there was a talk about it at RMLL 2010 | 22:52 |
| kristianpaul | oh | 22:52 |
| Fallenou | kristianpaul: no not a big proprietary software | 22:52 |
| Fallenou | btw Altera one has some nice features | 22:52 |
| Fallenou | like generating the linux driver C code for your cores :) | 22:52 |
| kristianpaul | hehe | 22:52 |
| Fallenou | that you attach to their softcore | 22:52 |
| Fallenou | I mean a skeleton and some helper functions | 22:53 |
| kristianpaul | i think milkymist bus schmea is clear enought for a wizar be ablet to generate core templates for wishbone or csr i think | 22:53 |
| kristianpaul | skeleton at least is very helpfull indeed | 22:54 |
| Fallenou | could be nice to have such a tool :) | 22:54 |
| kristianpaul | I want one for adding custom isntruccions to mico32. but well i think it may not worth.. | 22:57 |
| kristianpaul | as custom cores can lead that part | 22:57 |
| Fallenou | yep and I don't think there is room for a lot of extra instructions | 22:57 |
| Fallenou | I think there is like 2 more instructions you can add | 22:57 |
| Fallenou | I think mwalle said something like that | 22:58 |
| Fallenou | I think he wanted to add instructions for debuging | 22:58 |
| kristianpaul | hmm | 22:58 |
| kristianpaul | tapping cpu registers was not enought? | 22:58 |
| Fallenou | no idea | 22:59 |
| kristianpaul | s/was/is | 22:59 |
| kristianpaul | same here :/ | 22:59 |
| Fallenou | I don't know how all of this works | 22:59 |
| Fallenou | have you been able to use the second uart ? | 22:59 |
| Fallenou | with rtems | 22:59 |
| kristianpaul | not in rtems | 22:59 |
| Fallenou | ooh :' | 23:00 |
| Fallenou | did you try with the -E ? | 23:00 |
| Fallenou | to get the result of the pre processor | 23:00 |
| kristianpaul | yes | 23:00 |
| Fallenou | I'm pretty sure it's a dumb syntax error | 23:00 |
| kristianpaul | me too | 23:00 |
| Fallenou | the -E generates a loooooot of stuff | 23:00 |
| kristianpaul | i'll read more about drivers and re take that step later | 23:00 |
| Fallenou | but with a quick search you can find your functions (of the uart driver) | 23:00 |
| Fallenou | and find is there is no ',' '/' '}' problem | 23:01 |
| Fallenou | after evaluation of all macros | 23:01 |
| Fallenou | do you have a repository for your rtems experiment ? | 23:01 |
| Fallenou | on github | 23:01 |
| kristianpaul | i gotta run home, read you... later i hope :-) | 23:01 |
| kristianpaul | Fallenou: yes | 23:01 |
| kristianpaul | is fork | 23:01 |
| Fallenou | ok ! | 23:01 |
| kristianpaul | from yours !! | 23:01 |
| Fallenou | is it "up to date" ? | 23:01 |
| Fallenou | ok I may have a look if I have the time :) | 23:01 |
| kristianpaul | i dint comitet yet | 23:02 |
| Fallenou | ok | 23:02 |
| kristianpaul | i can do it later, but as you know it dint work... | 23:02 |
| Fallenou | yes but I could resume from where you are | 23:02 |
| lekernel | scheißverbindung | 23:02 |
| Fallenou | I could maybe unblock you | 23:02 |
| kristianpaul | :-) | 23:02 |
| Fallenou | lekernel: a tes souhaits | 23:02 |
| kristianpaul | (shutting down laptop) | 23:03 |
| Fallenou | oh | 23:03 |
| Fallenou | connexion de merde :) | 23:03 |
| Fallenou | indeed | 23:03 |
| Fallenou | see you kristianpaul | 23:03 |
| mwalle | Fallenou: there are unused opcodes 'div' and 'mod' which are mentioned in the manual but not used within the core (but maybe in a future version..) | 23:10 |
| mwalle | lekernel: try dtag :) | 23:11 |
| Fallenou | ok | 23:11 |
| Action: mwalle watches "water makes money" from arte, a documentation about the corrupt french water market :) | 23:12 | |
| Fallenou | :) | 23:14 |
| roh | thats not just a french phenomena. thats global | 23:15 |
| Fallenou | arte produces really good tv doc | 23:15 |
| Fallenou | mwalle: is this broadcasted live on the web ? | 23:17 |
| Fallenou | I don't have any tv | 23:17 |
| mwalle | http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/water_makes_money-3775756.html | 23:17 |
| Fallenou | thx | 23:17 |
| Fallenou | hum the flash player says "connecting" endlessly :( | 23:20 |
| mwalle | maybe its blocked in france (: | 23:22 |
| roh | shouldnt be | 23:23 |
| lekernel | the arte flash player has a lots of problems for me too | 23:24 |
| roh | its not nice, but it works for me | 23:25 |
| lekernel | i guess it's just the usual collection of bugs | 23:25 |
| lekernel | and not country blocks | 23:25 |
| roh | make sure you got a recent flash version... old ones are even worse | 23:25 |
| Fallenou | mwalle: i'm in the uk :x | 23:25 |
| roh | aah... | 23:25 |
| roh | that can be | 23:25 |
| roh | check the html.. there is a list | 23:25 |
| Action: Fallenou gives it a try with ff4 | 23:26 | |
| Fallenou | my flash is Version : 10.2.153.1 | 23:26 |
| lekernel | it's on isohunt | 23:30 |
| Fallenou | rhaa fucking ambulance/police car sound | 23:31 |
| Fallenou | it's really annoying they klaxon | 23:31 |
| lekernel | heh, if you don't love the police, don't go to london :) | 23:31 |
| Fallenou | it's twice as loud as in France | 23:32 |
| Fallenou | it's killing my ears | 23:32 |
| Fallenou | and they activate it for nothing | 23:32 |
| lekernel | as the signs say: this area is subject to increased POLICE activity | 23:32 |
| Fallenou | even if there is no car blocking the road | 23:32 |
| Fallenou | or no car at all | 23:32 |
| Fallenou | they just enjoy killing ears | 23:32 |
| lekernel | so their activity they increase | 23:32 |
| Fallenou | yes London is disturbing | 23:33 |
| Fallenou | too much cctv | 23:34 |
| Fallenou | to much police | 23:34 |
| Fallenou | well, no arte for me tonight, will keep reading my lock picking book :) | 23:34 |
| lekernel | http://www.hannovermesse.de | 23:34 |
| lekernel | maybe i'll have a few free tickets (and space in the car from berlin)... who's coming? | 23:36 |
| roh | nah.... i had too much cebit for the rest of my life ;) | 23:39 |
| roh | not a fan of trade fairs | 23:39 |
| lekernel | it's not cebit | 23:40 |
| lekernel | http://www.hannovermesse.de/en/information-for/visitors/at-a-glance/tradeshow-lineup | 23:40 |
| lekernel | there's almost no computer stuff | 23:41 |
| lekernel | http://www.hannovermesse.de/en/micronanotec | 23:41 |
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