sb0 | https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-v is getting a very familiar treatment... | 03:30 |
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wpwrak | spreading the word certainly can't hurt | 03:52 |
whitequark | familiar? | 03:53 |
sb0 | yes, single-digit % funding, hackaday cheapskates complaining it doesn't have feature X and Y, comparing it with cheap mass-produced stuff, etc. | 03:59 |
whitequark | right | 04:00 |
kyak | DocScrutinizer05: did i disable TR-069 by installing openwrt onto my router? :) | 06:32 |
baaba | Hello ! I tried with an older bootloader, still not working but there are error messages now | 15:51 |
baaba | The first one being Bad ext2 partition or disk - mmc 0:1** | 15:51 |
baaba | I'm wondering something, what partition table do I need to use ? | 15:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | kyak: I guess yes :-D | 16:07 |
mth | baaba: I'm guessing a traditional PC boot sector (MBR) with primary partion 1 being vfat and primary partion 2 being Linux formatted as ext2 | 16:17 |
mth | although it sounds like it can also just be a single Linux/ext2 partition if you're using a boot loader that includes the linked commit | 16:18 |
mth | this is extrapolating from how boot loaders work on other systems; I don't have a NanoNote myself | 16:19 |
paul_boddie | baaba: Sorry to see that you're still having difficulties! | 16:30 |
paul_boddie | For the record, doing "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" tells me... | 16:32 |
paul_boddie | "/dev/sdb1 10 2097899 1048945 83 Linux" | 16:32 |
baaba | allright thanks I am trying again after having formatted the sd card | 16:33 |
paul_boddie | I can never remember the magic around formatting and partition tables. | 16:34 |
paul_boddie | Interesting that the start is "10", though. I guess the partition table is from 0 to 10. | 16:34 |
baaba | omg | 16:38 |
baaba | it seems to work | 16:38 |
baaba | YES | 16:38 |
baaba | Finally ! | 16:38 |
baaba | I formatted with no partition table | 16:38 |
baaba | But without changing the bootloader for an older one i wouldn't have known the issue was the partitions | 16:39 |
baaba | I am so happy ! | 16:40 |
baaba | so thank you ! | 16:42 |
paul_boddie | Glad that it worked! Not sure I understand how it works now, though. ;-) | 16:44 |
paul_boddie | Do you get similar output from fdisk? | 16:44 |
baaba | well now yes, I don't know about before | 16:55 |
baaba | except that I have a second partition for swap | 16:55 |
paul_boddie | Maybe I should add an example of fdisk to the page. | 16:58 |
baaba | there is one, maybe just specify that there must be no partition table | 17:04 |
paul_boddie | Actually, how did you reformat the card? | 17:07 |
baaba | well I'm not a pro with fdisk so I just did it from gnome-disks | 17:08 |
baaba | Now a small problem is that I don't have apt-get, ping and internet on my nanonote | 17:14 |
mth | you can do networking over USB (cdcether) | 17:18 |
baaba | thanks mth ! | 17:18 |
paul_boddie | OK. I'm not a pro with fdisk, either. | 17:20 |
baaba | lol i don't even have ifconfig | 17:21 |
paul_boddie | The default kernel should support Ethernet over USB: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB | 17:22 |
paul_boddie | But for the tools, you will need various packages in Debian. | 17:22 |
paul_boddie | When configuring multistrap, you should specify those packages. For example... | 17:23 |
baaba | yeah I added some packages to multistrap but not these ones :( | 17:23 |
paul_boddie | http://hgweb.boddie.org.uk/qi-emdebian/file/d2f68bc185dc/conf/multistrap-jessie-mipsel.conf | 17:23 |
paul_boddie | I guess net-tools and ifupdown and so on. You can ignore stuff like python-pygame. ;-) | 17:24 |
baaba | do you have ifconfig working ? | 17:25 |
baaba | Or maybe there is a way to grab packages and dependencies from my main pc and put them on my sdcard then do some dpkg -i ? | 17:25 |
paul_boddie | Yes, ifconfig works. (Just testing to make sure!) | 17:27 |
paul_boddie | You could copy packages and install manually, too. | 17:27 |
paul_boddie | I'm not sure if it is possible to multistrap a rootfs again with more packages and not make it upset. | 17:28 |
baaba | I think I will do a fresh install with a ton of packages, is there any cli game you recommend ? | 17:28 |
paul_boddie | Not really, sorry! | 17:29 |
baaba | by the way do all guis require x11 to be installed ? if I want a graphical game will I need a x server ? | 17:29 |
paul_boddie | Just looking now, and it hasn't activated Ethernet over USB, but that did work in Wheezy. | 17:29 |
paul_boddie | So maybe I need to find the right magic for Jessie. ifconfig is there, though. | 17:30 |
paul_boddie | I think my brother got the framebuffer version of Qt working on the NanoNote at one point. | 17:32 |
baaba | oh okay | 17:32 |
paul_boddie | Maybe I should check my kernel, although it should be the right one (and not one I compiled with different modules). | 17:36 |
baaba | maybe sdl games will work without xorg | 17:39 |
mth | baaba: lots of games work on the framebuffer | 17:40 |
mth | check games for the Dingoo A320 | 17:41 |
baaba | thanks mth ! I'll do that | 17:41 |
mth | you could even try to use the OpenDingux rootfs via chroot, then you don't even have to build the games | 17:41 |
mth | http://www.treewalker.org/opendingux/ | 17:41 |
paul_boddie | Yes, SDL stuff works on the framebuffer pretty well. That's why I was messing around with python-pygame. | 17:42 |
baaba | do you think love2d would work too ? | 17:42 |
mth | does that require GL ES? | 17:43 |
paul_boddie | OK, so it was the kernel that didn't have the "Ethernet Gadget" driver. That shouldn't be a problem for you: I just copied the wrong file from my system. | 17:43 |
baaba | oh okay | 17:43 |
baaba | well now that everything works I am going to pick some games and programs and multistrap again | 17:44 |
paul_boddie | Good luck! | 17:44 |
mth | baaba: A320 software is here: http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingux-releases/ | 17:53 |
baaba | thanks mth and paul_boddie | 18:09 |
paul_boddie | No problem! Nice to see people getting into the NanoNote even now. | 18:14 |
paul_boddie | I thought I was a late adopter back in 2012. ;-) | 18:14 |
paul_boddie | Now if only there were a new edition. :-) | 18:14 |
baaba | yes that would be cool ! | 18:21 |
baaba | There is the pyra that looks a bit like the nanonote due to its size mainly | 18:22 |
baaba | by the way idasystems website is still not working, maybe they stopped their activity :o | 18:23 |
baaba | maybe I am the last buyer of a ben nanonote | 18:23 |
wpwrak | paul_boddie: (new edition) find a pot of gold, and we'll make it happen :) | 18:31 |
baaba | I'm trying to add the modules for sound to work as explained here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Debian#Setup_sound but i get a modules.builtin no such file or directory, same for some modules.order | 19:17 |
baaba | is it just a warning ? | 19:18 |
baaba | ok it won't work& | 19:24 |
paul_boddie | Not sure if I tried sound. Not a big sound user, really. I can ask my brother, though. | 20:24 |
paul_boddie | wpwrak: The funny thing now is that you could replace the jz4720 with something like the M150 and have four times the RAM embedded on-chip. | 20:26 |
paul_boddie | http://www.ingenic.com/en/?product/id/12.html | 20:27 |
wpwrak | oh, nice | 20:27 |
wpwrak | and no embedded NAND. excellent, just what i've been preaching for years :) | 20:27 |
paul_boddie | I think all these things have hardware floating point support as well. The jz4775 does, at least. | 20:29 |
wpwrak | yup, the M150 has that | 20:29 |
wpwrak | there's a reasonably detailed data sheet: ftp://ftp.ingenic.com/SOC/M150/M150_DS.PDF | 20:30 |
paul_boddie | No need to rebuild libvorbis or whatever. | 20:30 |
wpwrak | (ftp, so retro) | 20:30 |
paul_boddie | Yes, I think I already grabbed the datasheet. There were also programming manuals for some SoCs on the FTP site. | 20:30 |
paul_boddie | At some point I'll get the enthusiasm to do more low-level MIPS stuff on the Ben. | 20:31 |
wpwrak | (programming manual) indeed, even for the M150. nice that ingenic have reverted to the openness of the early nanonote days | 20:35 |
paul_boddie | I kept getting timeouts when looking for manuals, so I only found a couple of them. | 20:36 |
wpwrak | looks decent enough ftp://ftp.ingenic.com/SOC/M150/M150_PM.PDF | 20:37 |
wpwrak | so we have the MCU, the memory, a boot architecture. lcd should be findable, too. now, who gets the money ? :) | 20:38 |
paul_boddie | I think I found the M150, jz4775 and jz4780. The latter may have been made available because of the MIPS Creator CI20 and the need for documentation. | 20:39 |
pcercuei | need some more? | 20:39 |
pcercuei | very cheap. :D | 20:39 |
paul_boddie | But yes, nice that they're putting them on their FTP site. | 20:39 |
pcercuei | doing a nanonote 2? | 20:40 |
paul_boddie | Idle chat, really. :-) | 20:41 |
paul_boddie | Just noting that you could drop the external RAM and have a lot more on the chip itself now. | 20:42 |
paul_boddie | A lot more by Ben standards, at least. :-) | 20:42 |
baaba | ok I think the problem comes from alsa not being installed | 21:25 |
paul_boddie | Most likely. | 21:30 |
baaba | but apt-get seems to be missing& | 21:30 |
baaba | do you know how I could download and install all dependencies only using dpkg and an other pc ? | 21:31 |
mth | use packages.debian.org and look up the dependencies manually? | 21:35 |
baaba | yeah :/ seems a bit long if there are many depedencies :o | 21:36 |
baaba | but I shall try | 21:36 |
mth | maybe you can make an ftp mirror and add that to your sources.list? | 21:36 |
mth | but then you probably need a huge SD card | 21:36 |
mth | 110 GB for mipsel according to https://www.debian.org/mirror/size | 21:37 |
mth | not impossible, but probably more than the card you're using | 21:37 |
baaba | yes :p i have a 32GB card | 21:38 |
baaba | i found this http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/517 | 21:39 |
baaba | meh | 21:40 |
paul_boddie | You could perhaps multistrap separately and then compare the package archives. | 21:50 |
baaba | oh yes good idea | 21:50 |
paul_boddie | Not sure where the package archives live, though. :-) | 21:51 |
paul_boddie | I know the package scripts usually go into /var/lib/dpkg/info. | 21:52 |
paul_boddie | Not sure if the actual .deb files are kept around. | 21:52 |
baaba | by the way, what packages includes the apt-get command ? | 21:56 |
baaba | oh apt | 21:56 |
baaba | found it | 21:56 |
paul_boddie | Yes. On a Debian system "dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-get" says "apt". | 21:57 |
baaba | bye i'm going to bed ! | 22:56 |
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