#qi-hardware IRC log for Saturday, 2015-02-21

DocScrutinizer05"Anti-Maidan" in Moscow -- never before heard of a huge demonstration against the results of a fair election *in another country*. Are a large fraction of russian people simply mad or megalomaniacal?17:05
viricI can't imagine what kind of propaganda is there... but among friends, they feel like their territory is attacked, and they are just defending17:08
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: well, it's a fair election from your point of view :]17:10
DocScrutinizer05yeah, not compliant with the russian definition of a "fair election"17:11
DocScrutinizer05also it seems it's just as usual: voluntary participation on order from above17:12
DocScrutinizer05and actually it seems many think they are demonstrating about some enemy *inside* Russia, they fear a Maidan in Moscow17:13
DocScrutinizer05which sonds like absolutely to the point, regarding Putin's concerns and worries17:14
DocScrutinizer05sounds*17:14
viricThat's the picture I had from my friends this last year too.17:14
wpwrakhow was that ? "deutschland wird am hinduschk verteidigt". talk about defending your territory :)17:16
DocScrutinizer05yeah, same bullshit17:17
DocScrutinizer05poor sod Putin sees the communist totalitarian method fail in one of the ex-SSSR states after the other, and even worse, they all join the western club. This for sure must worry him to death, and make him feel like he's looking like loser he actually is17:23
DocScrutinizer05and instead of acting smart, he thinks he must act "strong"17:24
DocScrutinizer05just watched a TV report about Putin (history and all) - two statements were quite enlightening: 1) his own narrative is like "I was a weak boy. Then I learned Judo and beat everybody who argued with me. I didn't even stop beating them when they were down to the ground"  2) some Putin-"expert": >>he's stubborn. And whenever somebody tries to push or manipulate him towards one direction, Putin acts exactly the opposite way and does 17:29
DocScrutinizer05exactly the opposite of what they try to push him to"17:29
DocScrutinizer05the latter makes all those EU/US-sanctions rather questionable17:31
DocScrutinizer05it's easy to see how Putin rather tends to demonstrate that those sanctions will _not_ influence nor impress him17:33
DocScrutinizer05but then they help a lot to build up a legend about "the whole world has ganged up against Russia" and play the patriotism card internally17:35
DocScrutinizer05see anti-maidan17:35
DocScrutinizer05Alexander Saldostanow  http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-1063~magnifier_pos-0.html17:37
dos1hmm17:56
dos1let's give whole Ukraine to Putin for free then17:56
dos1push him more into acting how he does now17:56
dos1he'll do the exact opposite and everyone will be happy :)17:56
DocScrutinizer05torch tower burning. Well, at least the name fits18:13
whitequarkdo you turn on TV monthly and then turn to IRC to discuss it, or what? :]18:13
DocScrutinizer0550th to 70th floor18:13
DocScrutinizer05nah, just monthly feel like commenting, it seems18:14
DocScrutinizer05actually TV hardly ever get switched off18:14
whitequarkI see you're happily getting brainwashed by the DE government18:15
DocScrutinizer05no, training my filters18:15
DocScrutinizer05actually watching news to mutate from first newsflash version to later more censored version is quite interesting18:17
DocScrutinizer05unlike many other countries, we have no censor guys paid by gvmt in the redaction of TV stations. So often the first version is not - yet - "approved" by any such gvmt brainwash. 18:19
DocScrutinizer05and knowing about the brainwash is even better than not exposing oneself to it at all18:20
kyak/h18:22
DocScrutinizer05actually any such censorship happening here would be a huge news story in itself. So the amount of such brainwash is naturally limited since it's difficult to do tight invisible coordination of all those journalists to comply with the recent central planning about how and in which direction to such brainwash and censorship18:31
DocScrutinizer05in countries where the censorship is well established and a known and "accepted" fact, things work differently18:31
DocScrutinizer05of course redaction chiefs may get a call from some minister and then next day tell their colleagues "we generally don't like Putin" or similar basic rules on how to write reports18:33
DocScrutinizer05those rules are easy to "see" when you watch carefully the news and compare them to other sources of same info18:34
DocScrutinizer05but I wouldn't call that brainwash18:35
wpwrakdos1: the thing is that the ukraine may not be all that attractive for russia. i think putin has what he wants already. so if the rest would just shuts up and behave, i think he'd be more than satisfied.19:31
DocScrutinizer05could somebody tell me what's wrong with inotify-tools, please. There must be a reason why it didn't make it into opensuse regular repo during 4 years and up to version 3.1420:27
DocScrutinizer05btrfs and snapper, a sysadmin's wet dream22:26
DocScrutinizer05awesome stuff22:26
DocScrutinizer05now if only I had formatted my rootfs as btrfs already22:27
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