#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2014-10-01

nicksydneyhas anyone come across schematics for CSR based bluetooth USB dongle ? i've looked around on Google can't find any 00:06
nicksydneyeven on CSR website they have none00:06
eintopfwhy CSR? I read last time that these usb dongles are blacklisted by btusb driver?00:27
eintopfI need a BTLE usb dongle, my choice was http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le00:27
eintopfkind of "Broadcom BCM20702" "The adapters USB VID is 0x0a5c (Broadcom) and PID 0x21e8."00:28
eintopfyes, but a little expensive00:28
nicksydneyeintopf: nope it's not blacklisted i've tried it and it worked fine ..tried it for kernel 3.1000:39
eintopfhttp://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c#L13100:40
eintopfokay maybe only this one00:41
eintopf{ USB_DEVICE(0x0a12, 0x0001), .driver_info = BTUSB_CSR },00:41
eintopfit's in  usb_device_id blacklist_table00:41
eintopfwhich PID and VID do you have?00:41
nicksydney0a12:000100:42
eintopf:D00:42
nicksydneythe ignore_csr is not set00:42
nicksydneyso it will pass through without any problem00:42
eintopfmhh00:42
nicksydneyhttp://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c#L156000:42
eintopfI am little afraid about the blacklist array...00:43
nicksydneyif you set that then yes it not work00:43
eintopfah, ok00:43
nicksydneyeintopf: have tested it with BlueZ 5 and it works fine00:43
nicksydneyeven in Android :)00:43
nicksydneyof course in Android you need to use BlueZ not Bluedroid00:43
eintopfcan it also run as sniffer etc? No constraints what CSR firmware abstract?00:44
eintopfI mean00:44
eintopfI don't know how I can translate this into english00:45
nicksydneydon't know about sniffer haven't tried it...all i've tried is scanning and pairing...the one that I have is not 4.0 BLE capable00:45
eintopfah, ok00:45
nicksydneythe 4.0 BLE is different chip00:45
eintopfok00:45
eintopfbut have the same PID and VID00:45
eintopfcrazy00:45
eintopfokay, maybe some revision registers00:46
eintopfPID, VID - cost money or?00:46
nicksydneynot sure what you mean cost money ?00:48
eintopfqi-hardware has a registered VID00:49
eintopfat evil intel usb company00:49
eintopf0x20b700:50
eintopfhttp://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/USB_product_ID_assignments00:50
nicksydneyeintopf: that you need to check with the Master ... wpwrak or DocScrutinizer0500:51
DocScrutinizer05huh?00:51
DocScrutinizer05OM had some errr project offering USB VID/PID for everybody00:52
DocScrutinizer05sorry, can't find a link00:53
eintopfdoesn't matter00:53
eintopfthanks00:54
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs00:54
eintopfoh "barebox bootloader USB DFU (Device Firmware Upgrade) Mode" - I know this one :-)00:57
DocScrutinizer05(teaching to fish: google "openmoko usb pid vid" )00:58
eintopfoh GoodFet, I also know this one00:59
DocScrutinizer05give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and feed him for rest of his life00:59
eintopfDocScrutinizer05: yea, next time I need to use google00:59
eintopfSo I can do some open hardware usb project and register it at this wiki page?01:00
DocScrutinizer05yes01:00
DocScrutinizer05basically01:00
eintopfokay, I don't want to create a usb rocket launcher or usb bomb.01:01
eintopfI more for a sentence in GPL that GPL software can't use in military devices01:01
eintopfI can't life to programming software which kills people01:02
eintopfI mean... who can life with that?01:04
whitequarknope, zeroth freedom of FOSS is that software can be used for any purpose01:04
eintopfyea, but killing people is anti freedom01:04
eintopfI know what you mean...01:04
DocScrutinizer05lol! http://hackaday.com/2013/10/22/usb-implementers-forum-says-no-to-open-source/01:05
whitequarkDouglas Crockford's JSlint license, which says "this software can't be used for evil" has, in fact, caused quite a few conflicts01:05
whitequarkohh01:05
whitequarkread this post: http://wonko.com/post/jsmin-isnt-welcome-on-google-code01:05
whitequarkDouglas: That's an interesting point. Also about once a year, I get a letter from a lawyer, every year a different lawyer, at a company--I don't want to embarrass the company by saying their name, so I'll just say their initials--IBM...01:05
whitequark[laughter]01:06
whitequark...saying that they want to use something I wrote. Because I put this on everything I write, now. They want to use something that I wrote in something that they wrote, and they were pretty sure they weren't going to use it for evil, but they couldn't say for sure about their customers. So could I give them a special license for that?01:06
whitequarkOf course. So I wrote back--this happened literally two weeks ago--"I give permission for IBM, its customers, partners, and minions, to use JSLint for evil."01:06
whitequark[laughter and applause]01:06
whitequarkAnd the attorney wrote back and said: "Thanks very much, Douglas!"01:06
DocScrutinizer05huh? killing people? military. how did we get there now?01:06
eintopfDocScrutinizer05: sorry, my minds jumping around.01:06
DocScrutinizer05seems I'm not only suffering Alzheimer and autism, but now also ADHS01:08
eintopfrelax :-)01:09
DocScrutinizer05http://www.freenode.org/channel_guidelines.shtml  >>Don't be caught by support burnout.<< - they warned me. didn't listen01:10
eintopfoh01:13
eintopfthanks for your support :)01:16
eintopfif that helps a little bit, when we met us one day I will give you a free beer/wodka/cola/water/club mate/flora mate/...01:17
eintopfbut dom perignon ;)01:18
wpwrakoh, the OM VID space is actually being used. nice.09:48
viricirungentoo: can a x86_64 toxic load a data file written by armv7l?12:34
MSG541[15:42:38] <kristianpaul> OpenPET webpage got redesign http://openpet.lbl.gov/12:35
whitequarkhuuuuh http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/last-german-state-to-do-away-with-university-tuition-fees/story-e6frgcjx-1227066213629?nk=e238a7fa81b6c07f4225ac306c5ff3c716:18
wpwrakdarn commies16:23
viricI don't like any messaging system for internet16:59
DocScrutinizer05((tuition fees)) well, not someting completely new. They started that BS some 8? years ago, always been considered a hiccup, I'm glad now the last fool in gvmt appreciates it been a mistake17:30
viricwpwrak: kristianpaul: the party is starting http://addenda-et-corrigenda.blogspot.com/2014/10/todo-sobre-las-enmiendas-del-drae2014.html22:21
wpwrakviric: sounds a tad silly. besides, don't you have a civil war scheduled for november ?22:51
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