#qi-hardware IRC log for Sunday, 2014-06-22

wpwrakhave a copy of a known to be good config file and just edit it ? :)00:01
whitequarkediting config files. yeah, that's my idea of "convenience"00:06
whitequarkas opposed to "press a single button", like on every single other fucking OS around00:06
wpwrakpress a button, something happens (or not), then spend an hour trying to figure out how the thing is supposed to work behind the scenes, and fix the problem :)00:22
whitequarkliterally never happened00:24
wpwraki had NM do weird things. besides, on almost all of my machines, there's one and only one valid network configuration. a configuration for which i already have all the shell commands. so NM can only make things worse.00:43
dos1it took me a bit of work to make NM behave properly01:28
dos1for quite a long time I kept it uninstalled, until it started to work somewhat reasonably01:28
dos1maybe my usecase of connecting a lot of various devices with g_ether with different configurations, and modems that I don't want NM to handle for me, is not a very common one01:31
dos1good that they finally started to go the less sucking path ;)01:32
DocScrutinizer05dos1: did you manage to keep NM from starting to go apeshit when you connect any such g_ether etc, particularly N900 and other usb modems?04:25
DocScrutinizer05I always found it particularly annoying and cumbersome to keep NM from disconecting from my normal wired ethernet as soon as I try to e.g. connect an USB gadget and establish a segregated IP subnet to e.g. run a ssh session over it04:27
DocScrutinizer05cheesy NM always detects a new NIC and nukes my route and default gateway etc04:28
whitequarkoh I see what you mean.04:30
whitequarkfor that I forbid NM to touch the g_ether ifaces.04:30
whitequarkso I guess it did happen (re wpwrak)04:30
DocScrutinizer05awesome: http://zao.jp/radio/soft66lc/soft66lc4_schematics.png15:08
DocScrutinizer05dang! just had to do `jr@saturn:~> sudo bin/revoco-05 auto=8` for my last working fresh virgin MX Revolution mouse.16:06
DocScrutinizer05well, now I have two MX-revo mice with broken LMB switch. More resonable to do fix on both of them same time. Less overhead ;-)16:07
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