#qi-hardware IRC log for Friday, 2014-04-25

wpwrakseems that NIST now officially dropped Dual EC DRBG. amazing that it took them so long.05:20
DocScrutinizer05seems I need to write up a "blogpost" or whatever, to take care about that obviously increasingly common concern that Neo900 project stalled or vanished13:34
DocScrutinizer05a tad unfortunate that our communications officer Sebastian (dos1) isn't more chatty on neo900.org website13:35
Action: whitequark imagines DocScrutinizer05 in a Starfleet uniform13:59
DocScrutinizer51whitequark: Q occasionally loved to appear in a starfleet captain uniform14:09
Action: wpwrak imagines Lt. Uhura from STNV14:27
wpwrakDocScrutinizer51: you see yourself as Q...uark ? :-)14:29
DocScrutinizer51quark, question, quality, quibble, the-letter-after-P, whatever Q might stand for... I didn't say I see myself like that14:36
whitequarkDocScrutinizer51: in a starfleet *admiral* uniform14:37
whitequarkno way his enormous ego would fit in a captain one14:37
ysionneauhe could lead a *charge* with his fleet14:43
DocScrutinizer51well, that's also his problem. He for his life (literally) can't figure how it feels to NOT have such an enormous ego. He's kinda like Mr Data, just with a slightly different approach vector to "being human"14:43
DocScrutinizer51not like some few humans had a significantly smaller ego =J14:52
larscysionneau: and Q was clearly absolute14:57
ysionneauyep :)14:58
DocScrutinizer51and larsc clearly is a prime14:59
DocScrutinizer51and maybe even complex15:03
larscprobably irrational15:04
larschigh up in the complex plane15:05
larscwhitequark: the guy in the window is the fussbodenschleifmaschinenverleihbesitzer15:08
ysionneauthat increases the cost of the shop's heading15:08
ysionneaupoor german shops owners :(15:08
whitequarklarsc: I think I know who named the infamous PCLMULLQLQDQ instruction15:09
larscwhitequark: somebody who didn't like vowels?15:10
whitequarklarsc: it's 8.3% vowels!15:11
DocScrutinizer51Q is clearly ambiguous15:12
DocScrutinizer51and that's the only thing absolutely clear about Q15:13
DocScrutinizer05any news about any civil fatalities caused by the Kiew anti-terror forces operating in Eastern Ukraine? I'm just asking because I only hear about pro russian separatists shooting helicopters with missiles and taking OSCE observers as hostages, while our beloved Russian Gov idiots call the anti-terror forces a "war against own people"18:12
DocScrutinizer05maybe western news channels simply are so biased that they don't even report about all the cruel crimes the anti-terror forces commit?18:13
whitequarkyou could probably have better chances by sweeping twitter for grassroots reports18:16
DocScrutinizer05there's been that old granny they interviewed in Donjezk(?) who said "I don't know who are those guys with guns who occupied the townhall and all. I don't know whyt they want to achieve. I am afraid they don't act in my interest. I'm angry about Kiev not doing anything to stop this". I wonder if Putin counts that granny as "Ukraine's own people that the government now warships" or "the threatened Russian people in eastern Ukraine"18:20
whitequarkas if it matters18:21
DocScrutinizer05well, we already learned that Putin and his sock puppet the mister of foreign affairs(?) just *always* lie. So when they say "Ukraine government started war against own people" then it probably doesn't matter what exactly they mean by "own people".18:23
whitequarkI'm not sure what is the point of listening to them *at all*18:23
DocScrutinizer05it rather matters what this communicates to russian public18:24
whitequarkmy bet is on "intentionally ambiguous so everyone hears what they want"18:24
DocScrutinizer05actually I agree, there's no point at all in listening to Putin an co-idiots. Not even when you know they're lying you can conclude *anything* from their blabla, not even the next blabla and for sure not their next action they take18:38
DocScrutinizer05whitequark: what's your personal estimation how many % of russian or let's just say Moscow population are falling for this "I'm Putin, your big daddy" show, and how many don't believe that crap and are pissed about it?18:46
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: let's say majority18:46
whitequarkI'm 100% sure the majority does. specific numbers highly depend on the region18:47
whitequarkas a rule of thumb, the farther away from Moscow, the more18:47
whitequarkeven in Moscow it's likely over 50%18:48
whitequarknow you see why so many give up and just flee out of the country18:49
whitequarkshould correlate highly with that18:50
DocScrutinizer05the most disconcerting aspect in all this: all the plot and the means, while Putin pointing at the west and shouting "fascists!", in itself feels like copied straight from Hitler's secret operation guidelines18:51
whitequarkcomparing Putin to Hitler is such a cliché topic these days in RU18:52
DocScrutinizer05yeah, sure it is18:52
whitequarkI've read no less than dozen arguments for and against before giving up and simply /ignoring it18:52
DocScrutinizer05doesn't make the whole story smell any less disgusting18:53
DocScrutinizer05it doesn't matter if or if not Putin acts like $random-historical-person. What matters is if we can think about any way to stop this movement18:54
whitequarkshoot him?18:54
DocScrutinizer05go ahead, I for sure don't mind :-)18:55
DocScrutinizer05but I doubt this would really change anything18:55
whitequarkI would say that much of the current events are direct result of his personality18:56
DocScrutinizer05prolly his successor, whoever it might be, would act ever harsher18:56
DocScrutinizer05and more braindamaged18:57
whitequarkthat's not clear at all18:58
DocScrutinizer05I have no insight at all into this aspect of Russian politics18:58
whitequarkI would compare the top of the government with a nest of rats. this particular alpha male is quite paranoid and purposeful, but it doesn't mean that the nest in its entirety serves or even knows some common purpose18:59
whitequarkthey mostly gnaw on whatever's easiest to reach19:00
whitequarkit's very clear if you look at laws they propose, at property they own, etc19:02
whitequark"Its costing U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars for no reason and to add salt to the wound, the primary engine used is a Russian engine, he said."19:07
whitequark(I for one would welcome SpaceX in any circumstances, as competition breeds progress)19:10
larscwhitequark: The boss of that ULA disagrees with your ;)19:30
whitequarkwell, screw him!19:30
Action: DocScrutinizer05 ponders to apply for a job at Tesla Inc19:49
DocScrutinizer05did that since quite some time actually19:49
whitequarksounds nice19:51
whitequarkor at SpaceX :p19:51
DocScrutinizer05well, I guess inner-company moves are not as hard as getting in20:00
DocScrutinizer05and actually I like their car too20:00
DocScrutinizer05both has quite interesting EE domains 20:01
DocScrutinizer05sure, spacecraft is more ... geek20:02
whitequarkI dunno, spacecraft is more useful20:03
whitequarklaunch satellites for 1/10th the cost = immediate profit20:04
DocScrutinizer05FFS, 5 transmission errors on my 866MHz home automation during last 24h20:04
whitequarkyet another ultra-premium car = meh20:04
whitequark(profit not as in "money in pockets of spacex", although that too)20:04
whitequarkI say we *need* rapid reduction of cost for space launches. telcos who use satellites are practically all broke. science is eating sorry leftovers after NRO and friends20:06
whitequarkthat's not even taking into account "cool" things like human exploration20:07
larscastroid mining20:08
whitequarkthat's so far in the future it's not even funny20:08
whiteqgrr, no connectivity from here to linode20:22
wpwrakDocScrutinizer05: inner-company ... so you have to start at paypal and work your way up from there :)20:22
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