wpwrak | seems that NIST now officially dropped Dual EC DRBG. amazing that it took them so long. | 05:20 |
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eintopf | mhhh | 07:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | seems I need to write up a "blogpost" or whatever, to take care about that obviously increasingly common concern that Neo900 project stalled or vanished | 13:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a tad unfortunate that our communications officer Sebastian (dos1) isn't more chatty on neo900.org website | 13:35 |
Action: whitequark imagines DocScrutinizer05 in a Starfleet uniform | 13:59 | |
DocScrutinizer51 | whitequark: Q occasionally loved to appear in a starfleet captain uniform | 14:09 |
Action: wpwrak imagines Lt. Uhura from STNV | 14:27 | |
wpwrak | DocScrutinizer51: you see yourself as Q...uark ? :-) | 14:29 |
DocScrutinizer51 | quark, question, quality, quibble, the-letter-after-P, whatever Q might stand for... I didn't say I see myself like that | 14:36 |
whitequark | DocScrutinizer51: in a starfleet *admiral* uniform | 14:37 |
whitequark | no way his enormous ego would fit in a captain one | 14:37 |
ysionneau | he could lead a *charge* with his fleet | 14:43 |
DocScrutinizer51 | well, that's also his problem. He for his life (literally) can't figure how it feels to NOT have such an enormous ego. He's kinda like Mr Data, just with a slightly different approach vector to "being human" | 14:43 |
DocScrutinizer51 | not like some few humans had a significantly smaller ego =J | 14:52 |
DocScrutinizer51 | =) | 14:53 |
larsc | ysionneau: and Q was clearly absolute | 14:57 |
ysionneau | yep :) | 14:58 |
DocScrutinizer51 | and larsc clearly is a prime | 14:59 |
DocScrutinizer51 | and maybe even complex | 15:03 |
larsc | probably irrational | 15:04 |
larsc | high up in the complex plane | 15:05 |
whitequark | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmEcsEpCcAAn4uz.jpg:large | 15:07 |
larsc | whitequark: the guy in the window is the fussbodenschleifmaschinenverleihbesitzer | 15:08 |
ysionneau | that increases the cost of the shop's heading | 15:08 |
ysionneau | poor german shops owners :( | 15:08 |
whitequark | larsc: I think I know who named the infamous PCLMULLQLQDQ instruction | 15:09 |
ysionneau | lol | 15:09 |
larsc | whitequark: somebody who didn't like vowels? | 15:10 |
whitequark | larsc: it's 8.3% vowels! | 15:11 |
DocScrutinizer51 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor | 15:11 |
DocScrutinizer51 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_Continuum#Q | 15:12 |
DocScrutinizer51 | Q is clearly ambiguous | 15:12 |
DocScrutinizer51 | and that's the only thing absolutely clear about Q | 15:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | any news about any civil fatalities caused by the Kiew anti-terror forces operating in Eastern Ukraine? I'm just asking because I only hear about pro russian separatists shooting helicopters with missiles and taking OSCE observers as hostages, while our beloved Russian Gov idiots call the anti-terror forces a "war against own people" | 18:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe western news channels simply are so biased that they don't even report about all the cruel crimes the anti-terror forces commit? | 18:13 |
whitequark | you could probably have better chances by sweeping twitter for grassroots reports | 18:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's been that old granny they interviewed in Donjezk(?) who said "I don't know who are those guys with guns who occupied the townhall and all. I don't know whyt they want to achieve. I am afraid they don't act in my interest. I'm angry about Kiev not doing anything to stop this". I wonder if Putin counts that granny as "Ukraine's own people that the government now warships" or "the threatened Russian people in eastern Ukraine" | 18:20 |
whitequark | as if it matters | 18:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, we already learned that Putin and his sock puppet the mister of foreign affairs(?) just *always* lie. So when they say "Ukraine government started war against own people" then it probably doesn't matter what exactly they mean by "own people". | 18:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | minister* | 18:23 |
whitequark | I'm not sure what is the point of listening to them *at all* | 18:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it rather matters what this communicates to russian public | 18:24 |
whitequark | my bet is on "intentionally ambiguous so everyone hears what they want" | 18:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | actually I agree, there's no point at all in listening to Putin an co-idiots. Not even when you know they're lying you can conclude *anything* from their blabla, not even the next blabla and for sure not their next action they take | 18:38 |
whitequark | yeah. | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | whitequark: what's your personal estimation how many % of russian or let's just say Moscow population are falling for this "I'm Putin, your big daddy" show, and how many don't believe that crap and are pissed about it? | 18:46 |
whitequark | DocScrutinizer05: let's say majority | 18:46 |
whitequark | I'm 100% sure the majority does. specific numbers highly depend on the region | 18:47 |
whitequark | as a rule of thumb, the farther away from Moscow, the more | 18:47 |
whitequark | even in Moscow it's likely over 50% | 18:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | depressing | 18:48 |
whitequark | now you see why so many give up and just flee out of the country | 18:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 18:49 |
whitequark | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2012#Results | 18:50 |
whitequark | should correlate highly with that | 18:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the most disconcerting aspect in all this: all the plot and the means, while Putin pointing at the west and shouting "fascists!", in itself feels like copied straight from Hitler's secret operation guidelines | 18:51 |
whitequark | comparing Putin to Hitler is such a cliché topic these days in RU | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, sure it is | 18:52 |
whitequark | I've read no less than dozen arguments for and against before giving up and simply /ignoring it | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't make the whole story smell any less disgusting | 18:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't matter if or if not Putin acts like $random-historical-person. What matters is if we can think about any way to stop this movement | 18:54 |
whitequark | shoot him? | 18:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | go ahead, I for sure don't mind :-) | 18:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but I doubt this would really change anything | 18:55 |
whitequark | I would say that much of the current events are direct result of his personality | 18:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly his successor, whoever it might be, would act ever harsher | 18:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | even* | 18:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and more braindamaged | 18:57 |
whitequark | that's not clear at all | 18:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I have no insight at all into this aspect of Russian politics | 18:58 |
whitequark | I would compare the top of the government with a nest of rats. this particular alpha male is quite paranoid and purposeful, but it doesn't mean that the nest in its entirety serves or even knows some common purpose | 18:59 |
whitequark | they mostly gnaw on whatever's easiest to reach | 19:00 |
whitequark | it's very clear if you look at laws they propose, at property they own, etc | 19:02 |
whitequark | http://recode.net/2014/04/25/spacex-achieves-its-first-soft-landing-and-sues-the-federal-government/ | 19:07 |
whitequark | "Its costing U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars for no reason and to add salt to the wound, the primary engine used is a Russian engine, he said." | 19:07 |
whitequark | (I for one would welcome SpaceX in any circumstances, as competition breeds progress) | 19:10 |
larsc | whitequark: The boss of that ULA disagrees with your ;) | 19:30 |
whitequark | well, screw him! | 19:30 |
Action: DocScrutinizer05 ponders to apply for a job at Tesla Inc | 19:49 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | did that since quite some time actually | 19:49 |
whitequark | sounds nice | 19:51 |
whitequark | or at SpaceX :p | 19:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, I guess inner-company moves are not as hard as getting in | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and actually I like their car too | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | both has quite interesting EE domains | 20:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sure, spacecraft is more ... geek | 20:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 20:02 |
whitequark | I dunno, spacecraft is more useful | 20:03 |
whitequark | launch satellites for 1/10th the cost = immediate profit | 20:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | FFS, 5 transmission errors on my 866MHz home automation during last 24h | 20:04 |
whitequark | yet another ultra-premium car = meh | 20:04 |
whitequark | (profit not as in "money in pockets of spacex", although that too) | 20:04 |
whitequark | I say we *need* rapid reduction of cost for space launches. telcos who use satellites are practically all broke. science is eating sorry leftovers after NRO and friends | 20:06 |
whitequark | that's not even taking into account "cool" things like human exploration | 20:07 |
larsc | astroid mining | 20:08 |
whitequark | that's so far in the future it's not even funny | 20:08 |
whiteq | grr, no connectivity from here to linode | 20:22 |
wpwrak | DocScrutinizer05: inner-company ... so you have to start at paypal and work your way up from there :) | 20:22 |
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