#qi-hardware IRC log for Tuesday, 2014-04-15

DocScrutinizer05another hour to kill until bakery opens00:00
DocScrutinizer05maybe I should polish my silly lil fancy shellscript by another one or two lines00:01
DocScrutinizer05I actually boggled when I noticed I went to a cmd syntax much like systemd and similar anti-unix'y stuff00:02
DocScrutinizer05incredible crap, but ... I don't care00:02
wpwrak"to feat" ain't in mine either. and it's obsolete anyway.00:03
wpwrakand defeat probably comes from french .. lemme check ...00:05
wpwrakyeah. defair, undo. this, wicked foe, shall be thy undoing.00:05
wpwrakdefairE even00:05
wpwrak(or desfaire)00:06
DocScrutinizer05de-faire would actually be pretty close on what I thought defeat means00:12
Action: dos1 is enjoying ultra-fast NAND flashing on gta02 right now00:12
DocScrutinizer05stop an ongoing activity00:12
DocScrutinizer05"ultra-fast"ยก ?00:12
DocScrutinizer05like "only 25 minutes"?00:12
dos1yep00:13
dos1gives you plenty of time to enjoy it :P00:13
DocScrutinizer05yeah, dfu is a pita00:13
DocScrutinizer05nfc what's wrong with that shite00:13
DocScrutinizer05I guess it must be flashing every single bit via JTAG-over-USB00:14
DocScrutinizer05and then verifying it00:14
DocScrutinizer05before running the timing pattern for flashing the next one00:15
DocScrutinizer05similar to real eprom flashers, like the one needed for atmel 89cxxxx chips00:16
DocScrutinizer05[0]write byte to register A, [1]pull write-enable line high for 50ms. read back byte from destination addr, compare, if not equal:go to [1], pull write-enable high for another 100ms. goto [0]00:18
wpwrakdfu on the gta02 was a blessing over jtag. 00:18
wpwrakyou forgot the 1 s break to let things cool down after the stressful write :)00:18
DocScrutinizer05wasn't needed for 89cxxxx since it had only 1 or 2k of flash00:19
DocScrutinizer05so ideally you were done after few minutes00:19
DocScrutinizer05the PC controled the whole flashing via centronics parallel port00:20
wpwrakah, that was a real algorithm. thought you were exaggerating :)00:20
DocScrutinizer05I'm not all sure abiout the actuall numbers, but basically it's a real algo, yes00:21
DocScrutinizer05funny pusteflipper times00:22
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/dscf3349.jpg00:22
DocScrutinizer05(C) 2000-08-09 jrwsoft00:23
wpwrakdouble exposure ? :)00:23
DocScrutinizer05nfc, not done by me00:23
DocScrutinizer0515 years ago poor people had no high class digital cameras00:24
DocScrutinizer0515. Flash Programming and Verification Waveforms   http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc0368.pdf00:32
DocScrutinizer05write byte cycle time: 2ms00:32
whitequarkmore from the Dr. Mengele's research department: "Spouses with low glucose levels were more willing to stick pins into dolls of their partners or torment them with irritating sounds, finds a study published today."00:38
whitequarkhttp://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21600855-low-glucose-levels-can-lead-spouses-lash-out-one-another-hunger-strikes?fsrc=scn/tw/te/pe/hungerstrikes00:38
wpwrak(poor people) hmm yes, for 2000 that (2592x1944) was still a relative high resolution. BUT ... it seems that the picture was taken in 2008. and the FinePix E510 was introduced around 2005.00:38
whitequark"if they won a round, their prize was to be able to torment their partner with an unpleasant noise such as fingernails scratching a blackboard or the scream of an ambulance siren."00:38
wpwrakkewl. science is still fun :)00:39
DocScrutinizer05http://www.atmel.com/Images/DOC0285.PDF00:41
DocScrutinizer05wpwrak: hardly. I can't figure how those pictures were taken 5 or 8 years after I designed the PCB00:43
DocScrutinizer05actually the circuit00:43
wpwraklook at the exif00:44
DocScrutinizer05nfc00:44
wpwrakthe date may be wrong but it's rather unlikely that someone would edit the camera type00:44
wpwrakmaybe it's on of those damn time travelers again00:45
DocScrutinizer05anyway, those pictures not taken by me00:45
DocScrutinizer05maybe i lost the original ones and asked mausclick to provide them again to me00:45
DocScrutinizer05in 200800:46
wpwrakkewl. from 4 am 5:30 am there'll be a lunar eclipse. and i'll be able to watch it right from my bedroom window :)01:32
wpwrak(says stellarium. the local news claim it'll be more difficult, but i think i'll trust open source :)01:33
wpwrakand even better, moon isn't supposed to just disappear, but it'll turn red. that would of course have been a unique opportunity for the first manned mission to the "red planet"01:36
whitequarklol01:38
DocScrutinizer05ummm, 4am your time?02:10
DocScrutinizer05:-/ >>Erst am 28.09.2015 gibt es in Mitteleuropa wieder eine Totale Mondfinsternis zu bestaunen<<02:12
DocScrutinizer05it's kinda funny to start a debate with arbitrary random people e.g. in a pub, about if/why lunar eclipse is only happening at full moon, and whether or not it looks the same and happens same time from everywhere of the (night) earth02:14
DocScrutinizer05;-P02:15
DocScrutinizer05best approach: pretend being ignorant and ask 02:15
DocScrutinizer05"hey, I'm traveling to $X tomorrow, do you think I can see the eclipse there? same time?"02:16
wpwrak;-))02:16
wpwrakand yes, 4 am local time. 4 am zulu would work at least for the position of the sun (night) but the moon wouldn't play along just yet02:17
DocScrutinizer05"how does the lunar eclipse look at half moon?"02:17
wpwrakthat's a good one :)02:19
wpwraknow, what would i do with a CTCP TIME ? 02:19
DocScrutinizer05you're an angry man, are you?02:23
DocScrutinizer05got disconnected02:23
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:25] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-TIME request to wpwrak.02:23
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:26] [CTCP] Received CTCP-TIME reply from wpwrak: Mon Apr 14 23:13:01.02:23
DocScrutinizer05you answered it, thanks ;-)02:23
DocScrutinizer05but seems you also made freenode disconnect me?02:24
whitequarkhe didn't disconnect me02:26
DocScrutinizer05tongue in cheek02:30
DocScrutinizer05though the synchronicity been quite amazing02:31
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:56] <wpwrak> now, what would i do with a CTCP TIME ? 02:31
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:20:10] <DocScrutinizer05> you answered it, thanks ;-)02:31
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:20:22] <DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:25] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-TIME request to wpwrak.02:31
DocScrutinizer05should I....02:33
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:33:50] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-TIME request to wpwrak.02:34
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 04:33:50] [CTCP] Received CTCP-TIME reply from wpwrak: Mon Apr 14 23:27:25.02:34
DocScrutinizer05wpwrak: still here?02:40
DocScrutinizer05apropos02:40
DocScrutinizer05!ping02:40
DocScrutinizer05!-ladjadldhdlh02:41
DocScrutinizer05!ladjadldhdlh02:41
Action: DocScrutinizer05 waves and heads out to watch the moon a bit as long as it's still there and not eaten by the cosmic goat02:43
wpwrakdon't forget to howl a bit at it :)06:01
wpwrakhmm, lots of light contamination from the city07:20
wpwrakoh, and mars is below the red moon. neat ! thought that was jupiter07:20
wpwrakDocScrutinizer05: some neo900 idea - a baseband monitor: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/gogo_wireless_a.html#c545966707:29
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: hahahhahahaha07:36
whitequarkhttp://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/112107707:36
whitequarkseems like putin actually enacts my plan himself07:36
whitequarktl;dr you need to notify RU if you get double citizenship or a residence permit, otherwise you're a criminal07:37
whitequarkI'm a bit lost to the actual purpose of it07:40
larsc you are abviously a traitor if you consider getting dual citizenship07:40
larscobviously07:40
wpwrakwell, some countries don't even let you have dual citizenship. e.g., austria.08:07
wpwrakdon't have to tell them about any residences i get, though08:07
larscdo you still pay taxes?08:08
larscor rather do you still need to pay taxes08:09
wpwraknever had to pay taxes in austria. well, except that withholding tax on interest, when i had a bank account there for a while.08:10
wpwraknow .. let's see how the lunar orbital adjustment is coming along ...08:11
wpwrakso, moon has stopped - it's bright and white again08:49
wpwrakand it looks about as big as before. so the plans of those lunar separatists didn't work. heh :)08:54
DocScrutinizer05the poor goat. Still hungry09:51
DocScrutinizer05btw schneier is dead. err his box is09:52
DocScrutinizer05wow, resurrected09:53
DocScrutinizer05hmmm09:55
wpwrakneat, eh ? :)09:55
DocScrutinizer05I dunno what you mean by "some neo900 idea"09:56
DocScrutinizer05ok, somebody else had same ideas09:56
DocScrutinizer05neat I'd cal when next post in that schneier blog been "but.... Neo900 does that today"09:57
wpwraknow is the time to make your debut there :)09:57
wpwraki remember you planned something of that sort, but don't remember the details09:57
DocScrutinizer05according to our unwritten never negotiated policies that's dos1's job09:59
DocScrutinizer05btw the deatails: we monitor power consumption and RF-TX-level10:00
DocScrutinizer05so basically we do even more than cryptophone10:00
wpwrakah, and your propaganda minister is presently offline. darn.10:02
wpwrakalright, that'll catch these10:02
DocScrutinizer05on a modern modem chipset you got a multicore anyway10:02
DocScrutinizer05and we hope for a rich monitor mode10:03
DocScrutinizer05so we can tell elementary things like CID/LAC to detect cell handovers, but also e.g. T3212 timer to tell when it expires and re-logon happens10:04
DocScrutinizer05btw BWAHAHAHA http://www.cryptophone.de/en/company/news/german-government-calls-in-gsmk-cryptophone-to-ward-off-cyber-attacks/ seems has helped a LOT10:17
DocScrutinizer05at least the >> Developing advanced countermeasures against such attacks is paramount to protecting critical government and business data.<< fas obviously an epic fail10:18
DocScrutinizer05;-P Merkel's phone10:18
wpwrakhmm, no sure if she actually used that. i think not.10:25
DocScrutinizer05DocScrutinizer05: seen backlog?16:10
DocScrutinizer05[2014-04-15 Tue 09:29:32] <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: some neo900 idea - a baseband monitor: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/gogo_wireless_a.html#c545966716:11
dos1DocScrutinizer05: did you mean "dos1:"? :D16:14
DocScrutinizer05yeah16:19
DocScrutinizer05when I'm getting lazy and only type two chars before tab16:19
DocScrutinizer05usually I type 316:19
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