#qi-hardware IRC log for Saturday, 2014-04-05

wpwrakthat's a clever joke :) http://www.pidjin.net/2014/02/28/ink/01:09
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: ircstat/ML: update for 2014-03 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/a9ee51901:30
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: ircstat/README: run "mlabs" for IRC statistics (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/5a34af401:30
natsukaoMilkymist one, is it UnTruStEd HaRdWaRe ?02:26
DocScrutinizer05could somebody savvy of chinese/japanese(?) please translate for me what the cat is saying? http://www.pbase.com/image/8448258503:01
kyak"miyauuuu"10:00
eintopfmeow10:02
wpwrakspeaking of cats ... http://pics.nase-bohren.de/release-my-genitals.jpg11:31
zrafaDocScrutinizer05: xiangfu should know14:02
whitequarkwpwrak: a bit concerned about clicking on that link14:05
whitequarkis that... a woman or a man?14:06
wpwraklook somewhat androgynous, but i'd say male14:07
wpwrakor did you mean the cat ? :)14:08
whitequarkno (I knew you'd ask that!)14:08
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: I just received your small packet \o/14:08
wpwrakdamn. i'm too predictable.14:09
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: in the future, please do write the recipient's name14:12
whitequarklack of a name tends to aggravate post office workers. I'd rather avoid that14:13
wpwrakdid he put you IP address ?14:13
zrafahttp://pics.nase-bohren.de/no-dogs.jpg14:14
wpwrakonce the cats learned to make signs, their rise to power was unstoppable14:15
whitequarkhmm, so joerg sent the package at 2014-03-23. exactly 12 days DE->RU14:17
whitequarkthat's actually not bad14:17
whitequarkand to think that a polite (!) competent (!!) postal worker dialed me at saturday morning (!!!)14:17
whitequarkwtf14:23
whitequarkMessage from syslogd@raidho at Apr  5 15:47:52 ... kernel:[313653.582307] Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 30 on CPU 0. kernel:[313653.582314] Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled? kernel:[313653.582316] Dazed and confused, but trying to continue14:23
whitequark>Dazed and confused14:23
wpwrakmaybe the call wasn't from the postal office. and someone at your local citizen compliance monitoring service branch was a bit clumsy when checking what you needed all that stuff for14:26
whitequarkI feel like dmesg is becoming more incomprehensible with years14:26
whitequarkstuff like: [313592.968473] [drm:intel_dp_start_link_train] *ERROR* too many voltage retries, give up14:26
Action: whitequark imagines: http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/art/lozst-link-phantom-train.jpg14:27
whitequark[297945.028239] ACPI Warning: \_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20131115/nsarguments-95)14:28
whitequarkso *THIS* is why backlight is fucked14:28
whitequarkmorons14:28
wpwrakthat deep link doesn't work14:29
whitequarkhttp://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/lozst-link-phantom-train.html ?14:29
wpwrakyeah, that worked !14:30
wpwraknow i'd need to understant the references. link, i get, but the train or the warrior, no idea. maybe i should have played a bit more zelda. got bored a the dexterity tests ...14:31
whitequarkhttp://hackaday.com/2014/04/05/taking-pictures-with-a-dram-chip/14:50
wpwraknot use a high-density chip and pee those ultra-high resolution cameras14:58
wpwrakwhitequark: http://www.pidjin.net/2011/01/24/bomb-raider/15:15
wpwrak(i hate it when i stumble upon a new comic ...)15:15
whitequarkI can understand it so well15:24
whitequarklol15:24
whitequark>http://pics.nase-bohren.de/women-dna-test.jpg15:25
whitequarkit's actually possible to bear a child which is not "yours", naturally15:25
whitequarktl;dr: chimerism is a thing15:26
wpwrakwould still be the same woman, though15:27
wpwrakunless you move on to more modern fertilization techniques15:27
whitequarkwell, no, I mean the child would in theory fail a DNA maternity test15:29
whitequarkthat actually happened a few times15:29
whitequark("in theory" because, I believe, it depends on how crude your test is. but if you pick the more precise ones, yeah)15:29
wpwrakhmm, you mean because "three parents" would confuse a simpler test ?15:31
wpwrakoh, and speaking of cats: http://www.pidjin.net/2011/10/31/whitney-we-have-a-problem/15:31
whitequarkno, it would be "two parents"15:32
whitequarkexcept the eggs and the somatic cells of the mother would have been slightly different15:32
whitequarkI mean, no one picks eggs as the source of genetic material, it's too invasive. you usually take a swab from the lining of the mouth15:33
whitequarkthe reason for them being different is a mutation early in the development, which occured, say, for one cell of the eight the embryo had15:34
whitequarkit's pretty rare15:34
wpwrakwikipedia: "however, it has been detected in the course of proving parentage" that 's a weird way for scientific discovery ;-)15:35
whitequarkwhy so? complex medical procedures (and even not complex) frequently are a source of discoveries15:35
whitequarkthe amount of papers on pubmed which could as well be stories on funnyjunk.net is pretty impressive15:36
whitequarkkeywords: "case study" and, say, "alcohol"15:36
whitequarkor "intoxicated"15:36
whitequarkI mean, right the first one: [Case of honey intoxication in Japan]15:37
whitequark>An unusual foreign body in the urinary bladder.15:37
whitequarkyeeeeah, probably not looking at that one15:37
whitequark>[Passive cocaine inhalation by a 25-month-old child].15:37
whitequark>[Sodium dichloroisocyanurate-induced acute lung injury in a child].15:37
whitequark>[Fall from height--surprising autopsy diagnosis in primarily unclear initial situations].15:37
whitequark>Hand warmer related corrosive injury.15:41
whitequarkwhat?!15:41
wpwrakand some people think science is boring :)15:41
whitequarkwow: Massive hemoptysis after aspiration of a toothpick.15:42
whitequark>Postoperatively, the patient confirmed that 1 year prior he had fallen asleep with a toothpick in his mouth while intoxicated.15:42
wpwrakthat's what you get for not going all that way with the drinking, so that you don't just pass out before it occurs to you to clean your teeth15:44
larscwhitequark: I think chimerism typically happens when twins fuse in an early stage of development15:45
whitequark>Intoxication with mouthwash presenting as psychosis and delirium in a combat theater.15:46
whitequarklarsc: that's another cause15:46
whitequark>Subarachnoid hemorrhage and vasospastic stroke after self-enucleation.15:46
whitequark _ 15:46
DocScrutinizer05(([2014-04-05 Sat 16:12:59] <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: in the future, please do write the recipient's name)) DUH!15:47
whitequark>"I am flying to the stars"--suicide by aircraft in Germany.15:48
wpwrak(arachnoids and stuff) did she dead ?15:48
whitequarkno15:49
wpwrak(the abstracts has me wondering ... "The patient developed postoperative contralateral visual loss followed by middle cerebral artery vasospasm and bilateral cortical infarcts.")15:49
whitequark>A 31-year-old intoxicated woman self-enucleated her left eye during an acute psychotic episode. CT revealed avulsion of the intracranial optic nerve, chiasmal edema, and adjacent subarachnoid hemorrhage. Exploration via transconjunctival orbitotomy was performed, and the globe and 4.8 cm of contiguous optic nerve were removed. The patient developed postoperative contralateral visual loss followed by middle cerebral artery vasospasm and bila15:49
whitequark>Self-amputation of penis and tongue after use of Angel's Trumpet.15:50
whitequark _   _ 15:50
whitequark>Homicidal cerebral artery aneurysm rupture.15:53
whitequark>Methanol-intoxicated donors: an acceptable source of organs.15:54
whitequarkthat's... a very bloodthirsty way of putting it15:55
wpwrakon-topic: http://www.pidjin.net/2011/11/28/get-unorganized/15:55
whitequarkummm15:59
whitequark>Simulation of attempted homicide by dog bite in unconscious state].15:59
DocScrutinizer05http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/lozst-link-phantom-train.html WTF? I get a "you'll be redirected in <countown from 30> seconds. Or <a href>skip this add</a>" and when it counts down to zero or you click 2skip2 it starts all over again. GREAT pun :-S15:59
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: cookies.16:01
wpwrakwhitequark: dog lover, beware ! also about his: http://pics.nase-bohren.de/ninja-dog.jpg16:01
whitequark>Pseudonecrophilia following spousal homicide.16:01
whitequark _   _   _ 16:01
whitequarkokay, I'm done with pubmed16:02
DocScrutinizer05whitequark: I have "ask" set for cookies. No cookies getting asked16:02
whitequarkweird16:02
DocScrutinizer05unless that site previously nagged me so much that I said "reject all cookies from this site"16:03
Action: DocScrutinizer05 wishes some WWAN carriers would decide to do SPI and filter out *all* cookies16:04
whitequark>A fatal impaling-type head injury is described in a young man, sustained when he crashed his car while intoxicated, his head being transfixed by a broken wooden fence post.16:04
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: wat? how am I supposed to use stateful websites like anything with a login then?16:04
whitequarkalso everything must be over https and SPI is useless then16:05
wpwrakwhitequark: it wasn't exactly a fence post. here's the picture: http://pics.nase-bohren.de/made-in-germany.jpg16:05
whitequarkwow, that is some sturdy construction16:06
whitequark>Fulminant acute colitis following a self-administered hydrofluoric acid enema.16:06
whitequarkWHAT16:06
whitequarkWHY IS THIS EVEN A THING16:06
whitequarkhe actually survived that16:08
whitequark>Aviators intoxicated by inhalation of JP-5 fuel vapors.16:09
wpwraksome jobs have more entertaining risks that others :)16:12
wpwrakbut wait, there's more of that. lemme search ...16:12
wpwrakhttp://avherald.com/h?article=45fa1f5b  http://avherald.com/h?article=45ff0005  http://avherald.com/h?article=45c8fe7e  http://avherald.com/h?article=452f4f4f  http://avherald.com/h?article=44f87dbe16:16
wpwraknote: all from the same airline. when boarding one of their planes, triple-check you have a barf bag. maybe ask for a few extras, as you'll probably need them.16:17
whitequark>[A case of acute tobacco poisoning by enema].16:17
Action: whitequark sighs16:17
wpwraksat on a tobacco plant ?16:18
whitequark(airline) how about... not flying by them?16:18
whitequark(tobacco) ... almost16:18
wpwrakthat sounds like a reasonable precaution16:18
whitequarkThe authors report the case of a 5 month old child intoxicated with nicotine through an enema. A mother who wished to treat her infant for constipation had administered to him as an enema a decoction of green tobacco leaves; 16:18
wpwraksweet, natural medicine :)16:18
larscin russia it probably had been vodka instead of tabacco leaves16:19
Action: whitequark reads a paper describing self-mutilation under meth16:20
whitequarkO_O16:21
whitequarkI don't think I could sleep for a few days after this16:21
whitequarkfor sake of your sanity, I will not actually quote it16:21
whitequarkwhee, the other package contained more chinese endmills I bought. some more cnc fun is possible!16:39
whitequarkhmmm, these are very different from the ones I have. mine have a more, umm16:40
whitequark"diagonal" cutting edge16:41
whitequarker16:41
whitequark"diamond"16:41
whitequarklike I'm not even sure these are endmills and not something else16:45
whitequarkcan't find anything with this kind of cutting edge16:45
whitequarkseems very similar to this: http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/224/031/681/681031224_804.JPG16:49
whitequarkand apparently this kind of cutting edge is only ever present on PCB bits16:49
whitequarksold by chinese16:49
rohwhitequark: diamond carved thingies17:00
DocScrutinizer05looks nice17:10
whitequarkmmh. let me try cutting something with "new" cutters17:13
whitequark... sigh17:15
whitequarkthe hard drive in my CNC controller has died.17:16
DocScrutinizer05OMG17:16
whitequarkugh. so disgusting inside17:26
whitequarkgreat. the thread on the HDD screw is killed.17:29
wpwrakin russia, discs are threaded17:30
whitequarkwhere the hell am I supposed to find an IDE drive in 201417:33
whitequarkgrrrrrrr17:40
Action: whitequark drops the drive from 1m17:40
whitequarksurprisingly, still doesn't work. how can it be, percussion maintenance is flawless!17:41
whitequarkoh. no. the thread is fine. some genius simply put an M3 screw instead of a 6-32 screw there17:44
rohwhitequark: what kind of drive was it?18:17
rohmaybe you can replace it with a compact flash with adapter or some ide flash18:17
whitequark40-pin IDE18:18
whitequark80gb Seagate18:18
rohebay?18:20
pcercuei< whitequark> where the hell am I supposed to find an IDE drive in 201418:20
pcercueiI know xbox1 has a 20 GB IDE hdd18:21
pcercueior was that 10 GB?18:21
pcercueibut a compact flash is probably a better idea18:21
whitequarkroh: slow18:22
rohpcercuei: small...18:22
pcercueidefinitely18:22
whitequarkthat's fine actually. linuxcnc needs what, 4 gb of space?18:22
whitequarkotoh finding a >4gb compact flash may prove hard, and expensive18:23
rohi had to replace a broken ide pata flash in a symbol wifi controller appliance recently... found a 1.2gb disk and it worked18:23
rohthe flash had 512mb18:23
whitequarkcould just stick a thumb drive into it. it can boot from USB18:24
rohthe really hard part was finding the disc, and the image18:24
whitequarkatleast it claims to18:24
pcercuei< whitequark> otoh finding a >4gb compact flash may prove hard, and expensive18:32
pcercueino, you can find 8GB / 16GB ones quite cheap18:32
whitequarkwell, seems I can pick a pair of 40GB drives for $6, at craigslist (local clone)18:33
whitequarkthey will fail after some time though18:33
whitequarkooooh: http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Piece-Micro-Machining-Carbide-Endmill-Kit-AUCTION-101-/15126677642618:52
whitequarktell me why I shouldn't buy that, quick18:52
wpwrakdon't buy them !19:02
wpwrak... so that i can get 'em :)19:02
wpwraksome actually look more like drills. but that may just be the camera angle.19:03
wpwrakeven if they suck, you'll have a nice collection of different sizes19:04
wpwrak(well, unless they suck really really badly)19:04
wpwrakof course, this could also be fun: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-lbs-of-used-solid-carbide-end-mills/310914735661?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D21395%26meid%3D5995480411567479477%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D9409%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D151266776426&rt=nc19:06
wpwrakof course it would be better if it said "... to 1/8". not only are the big ones useless but they also add a lot of weight19:07
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