eintopf | ahhhhh | 01:41 |
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eintopf | where is werner :( | 01:42 |
eintopf | _m | 01:43 |
eintopf | no thetz | 01:48 |
eintopf | there | 01:48 |
eintopf | bad | 01:49 |
eintopf | caaaaant liiiiiive cant live without wpwrak .... *sing* | 01:52 |
nicksydney | eintopf: you need to sing louder as it's very noisy down in Argentina ... most probably wpwrak is doing his weekend rounds :) | 04:05 |
wpwrak | oh dear, has he been at the catnip again ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Xrcp6k8VE | 05:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | seems my cat been one of the 25% that are immune against catnip. It also wasn't useable as tobacco, so eventually I stopped watering it | 11:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 11:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (the catnip, not the cat) | 11:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then OTOH my cat been crazy without catnip, every now and then | 11:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | she loved potato peel for example | 11:56 |
whitequark | you tried to smoke catnip? | 11:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | really went crazy for it, digging it out from bottom of filled kitchen wastebin | 11:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 11:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 11:57 |
whitequark | ... | 11:57 |
whitequark | okay | 11:58 |
whitequark | well | 11:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tastes not really delicious and has no psychoactive properties whatsoever | 11:58 |
whitequark | that explains | 11:58 |
whitequark | everything, I guess | 11:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 11:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I heard in WW-II they smoked seagrass form mattresses | 12:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | can't figure it tastes better or works better than catnip | 12:00 |
whitequark | I humbly suggest you have a vacation in Colorado | 12:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tumble weed? | 12:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nah, I'll stay with tobacco for rest of my life | 12:02 |
whitequark | (... which if you do, won't be that long) | 12:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes I think it's been long enough | 12:03 |
whitequark | :/ | 12:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I'm not one of those longevity fanatics | 12:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "live fast, die young" been the motto of our generation | 12:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'm allready much older than I planned to get | 12:06 |
whitequark | I don't know, I'd surely rather die than spend last 20 years of my life in some nursery being demented | 12:07 |
whitequark | but for all I know, modern medicine makes it possible to be of sound mind in 70s | 12:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | right | 12:07 |
whitequark | look at Vint Cerf | 12:07 |
whitequark | the guy's still very much kicking it | 12:07 |
whitequark | and probably will for at least a decade, maybe more | 12:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | look at Mick Jagger ;-P | 12:08 |
whitequark | or Knuth. I wonder if he ever finishes his massive manuscript | 12:08 |
whitequark | well, that's not too bad either! | 12:09 |
whitequark | damn, now I wonder how exactly catnip would taste if smoked | 12:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, when I send s mail to some folks saying "you wanna administrate your infra yourself? Good luck! prepare for that infra to go down!" and then one idiot comes and accuses me I had threatened them with me "formatting the servers", then I really wonder if life isn't too long maybe | 12:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | whitequark: smoke peppermint tea and you know it | 12:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (too long) generally or either for me or those guys | 12:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 12:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | generally, since it obviously leaves time for dealing with such BS, or for either them or me since otheriwse we hadn't run into this situation | 12:21 |
whitequark | yeah, figured it'd do something with maemo | 12:25 |
whitequark | I certainly hope you have backups and a proven method for restoring them | 12:26 |
whitequark | dunno how it was done, but we youngsters have a newfangled method for managing infra, called "chef". basically you describe your infra in a domain-specific language, then you give it a blank server and within 10min you have exactly what you described | 12:28 |
whitequark | or you modify your chef config and rerun it, and get your actual config updated | 12:28 |
whitequark | especially useful if you have 1000s of servers | 12:28 |
wpwrak | DocScrutinizer05: well, your statement could be interpreted as vote of extreme lack of confidence or as a threat. since they seem to be quite confident of themselves, they jumped to the latter ... | 12:57 |
wpwrak | DocScrutinizer05: but it seems to be a task you want to get out of. let them fight. you have much more important things to do. | 12:58 |
wpwrak | whitequark: now i'm wondering if "chef" is a tool, a person, or some metaphysical form of existence :) | 12:59 |
whitequark | chef is a program | 12:59 |
wpwrak | there go my dreams of jeannie ... | 13:00 |
whitequark | it's written in ruby, and there's a penchant for certain kind of naming in the ruby community | 13:00 |
whitequark | e.g. chef operates on recipes, and the command-line tool for creating recipes is called knife | 13:00 |
wpwrak | of course, she wouldn't need 10 minutes. it would fail spectacularly, but at least it would be done in the blink of an eye | 13:01 |
whitequark | a collection of recipes is a cookbook, which is stored in a bookshelf... and so on | 13:01 |
wpwrak | ah, speaking of failure. here's a picture of a launch the argentina space program calls "successful": http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1669921-un-despegue-fallido | 13:01 |
whitequark | lol | 13:02 |
whitequark | what | 13:02 |
whitequark | it's a very liberal definition of "successful" | 13:03 |
wpwrak | at least it didn't explode, which is something | 13:06 |
pcercuei | lol | 13:12 |
wpwrak | but the "snout in the dirt" posture gives it a rather comical appearance | 13:13 |
wpwrak | DocScrutinizer05, larsc: i can say it better in german "die Rakete fiel auf die Fresse" ;-) | 13:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | The requested operation could not be completed | 13:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Cyclic Link Detected | 13:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | URL: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1669921-un-despegue-fallido | 13:19 |
wpwrak | works here. maybe try again ? | 13:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I however have a pretty clear idea how it looked like, seen same pictures from V2 development and I think also from early USA space program | 13:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wpwrak: you're using FF I guess. It's more forgiving for such BS | 13:22 |
wpwrak | (works here) even with konqueror :) | 13:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 13:22 |
whitequark | DocScrutinizer05: http://bucket1.clanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/59/1850159w645.jpg | 13:22 |
wpwrak | naw, i use chromium | 13:22 |
whitequark | wpwrak: did it even ignite? | 13:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly you got cookies enabled then | 13:22 |
wpwrak | whitequark: i thing there is something that looks like minor scorch marks. but yes, i asked myself that question, too. it may well have just fallen off the ramp ;-) | 13:23 |
wpwrak | ah yes, cookies i have | 13:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | whitequark: yeah that happens when it ignites but stops or significantly reduces thrust after a very short time | 13:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or even just one of several engines lifts the whole rocket on one side | 13:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | while other ones don't work | 13:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there are several funny movies of V2 and other rockets lifting from start table ~50cm, then sinking down again, falling to the side and exploding in a giant fireball | 13:27 |
whitequark | yeah, giant fireballs are invariably a side effect of immature rocketry | 13:28 |
whitequark | no wonder you're so attracted to it :p | 13:28 |
wpwrak | DocScrutinizer05: you want to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McbCwSW2moo | 13:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1vr4G48Vt0 | 13:29 |
wpwrak | i especially likes the one towards the end that lifted off just enough to smash down with good enough force to blow of massively | 13:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah the first one already of your link, typical | 13:30 |
wpwrak | it gets better :) | 13:30 |
larsc | It is amazing that they managed to get rockets of the ground at all without modern computing power | 13:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 2:50 - rocket folds itself | 13:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 13:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's a reason you call it "rocket science" | 13:33 |
wpwrak | larsc: but then, some of the finest disasters were actually possible only thanks to computers :) | 13:33 |
wpwrak | looks more like "rocket empiricism", though :) | 13:34 |
nicksydney | wpwrak: STM32 Cortex-M0 now selling for 32cents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMPa0kr-RA :) | 13:38 |
larsc | this is so much better than the exploding rockets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXdjxPY2j_0 | 13:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 11:50 classical | 13:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 11:58 rather | 13:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 50cm jump and BOOOM | 13:43 |
wpwrak | larsc: yeah, that one was impressive | 13:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | real video art | 13:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | only thing missing: a real grasshopper crwling across the camera lens, sometime after the cows moved by | 13:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the test itself is based on utterly useless a concept | 13:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you can't use this concept for anything meaningful | 13:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McbCwSW2moo 13:37 is extremely funny | 13:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dang, 13:57 | 13:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 13:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 13:30 it starts | 13:59 |
wpwrak | yeah, looks for a moment as if it would go after the sub ;-) | 14:02 |
wpwrak | and 27:40 illustrates what a darwin award candidate would do :) | 14:06 |
wpwrak | me, i'd rather politely excuse myself at the first sign of trouble and cowardly retire behind the next blast wall | 14:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, darwin award warranted | 14:11 |
wpwrak | even the last one is kind dramatic, even though they seem to have maintained a much safer distance | 14:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, safe distance is always relative, see castle bravo | 14:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "duh, those are 30% Li6 and 70% supposedly inactive Li7 in there, a 40km distance should suffice by far" | 14:13 |
whitequark | well, one can also overdo safety | 14:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then find yourself confronted with the largest explosion (western) humans ever managed to set off | 14:14 |
whitequark | and get todays nuclear industry, stuck with 60-year-old designs where new could be more efficient, less wasteful *and* eventually safer | 14:15 |
whitequark | DocScrutinizer05: eh? no, largest would be Tsar Bomba, 100Mt reduced to 50Mt | 14:15 |
whitequark | Castle Bravo is mere 15Mt | 14:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "we could see the bones through our hands' flesh" | 14:15 |
whitequark | oh, western. yes | 14:15 |
wpwrak | western like in wimps :) | 14:16 |
Action: whitequark thinks "western" as in "not china or japan" | 14:16 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | wpwrak: well, anything significantly larger than the castle bravo or Tsar is simply useles, it just blasts away the vacuum in empty space | 14:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though I admit the term "useful" is strangely odd for such experiments | 14:18 |
larsc | if you don't succeed at making a dent in the universe you can still try to make a dent in the planet | 14:33 |
wpwrak | btw, the best "short liftoff" is at 11:13. just the right height :) | 14:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess 11:30 is the panorama view of [2014-03-08 14:42:52] <DocScrutinizer05> 11:58 rather | 14:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | roh: thanks a lot for pointer to ina219, we decided for ina231 now | 14:50 |
wpwrak | yeah, they have three different views | 14:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | roh: high-end shunt, nice small package, 0.3mA supply current when active, and hooray, even a ALARM IRQ line with programmable trigger. Range 0.15mA .. 4000mA with a pretty low shunt of 20mR | 14:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/trigger/threshold | 14:53 |
roh | DocScrutinizer05: nice | 17:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, indeed. Thanks! :-) | 17:59 |
Action: FrankBlues waves | 19:23 | |
sb0 | hi | 20:32 |
sb0 | roh, where would you go shopping for buttons? | 20:32 |
sb0 | and knobs/faders | 20:32 |
roh | depends on whatfor | 21:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and how urgent | 21:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Conrad and some music (instrument repair) shops come to mind | 21:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | when "go shopping" been meant literally | 21:04 |
eintopf | mhhh, catnip | 21:14 |
sb0 | roh, I'm looking for a rectangular, roughly 20x10mm, preferably metal, pushbutton key | 22:38 |
sb0 | if possible with rounded edges | 22:39 |
sb0 | black | 22:39 |
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