#qi-hardware IRC log for Sunday, 2014-03-02

qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Added ScanlinesBlue and ScanlinesRed themes (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/fd2c4fd16:54
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Added GCW theme by Nebuleon (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/8a560e416:54
DocScrutinizer05whitequark: seems your idea of isolating Russia has occurred to US, France and others as well18:08
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: oh? some news?18:09
DocScrutinizer05well, UK doesn't join G8 in Sotschi, others might too. Considarations are: exclude Russia from G8, embargo, travel restrictions18:10
wpwrak"X doesn't go to Y as a form of protest against Z". ah yes, we've seen these. how many wars has that prevented so far ?18:12
wpwrakit's just the political equivalent of donning a fig leaf18:12
DocScrutinizer05that's a tad short18:13
DocScrutinizer05embargo and exclusion of Russia from global politics is sth that Putin for sure doesn't like to achieve18:13
DocScrutinizer05dunno about travel restrictions18:14
wpwraki doubt putin expected the world to applaud and cheer his troops on. so some mild expression of disagreement is entirely plausible. in any case, they may be all in agreement and just don't want to tell that to the public.18:14
DocScrutinizer05I doubt Putin hoped for trade embargo when he tried to secure Ukraine for his vision of a huge free trade zone from netherlands til mongolia and beyond, with russia in the center18:18
DocScrutinizer05hehe, sorry but i need to quote that. >>Merkel enscheidet erst wenn entschieden ist, dass mit ihrer Enscheidung nichts Entscheidendes entschieden wird<<18:30
DocScrutinizer05(sorry, dunno if that translates at all)18:31
DocScrutinizer05maybe "Merkel doesn't decide anything before it's secured that her decision doesn't decide anything relevant"18:33
wpwrakthere will be no trade embargo ...18:36
DocScrutinizer05what puzzles me is Russia's media propaganda that the whole revolution in Ukraine is driven by the west and is fascistic. So, while I could understand (though not tolerate) them considering Germany Fascists, I wonder what that means for France and UK and USA :-o18:37
wpwrakoh, that just a standard propaganda item. in the US, you'd have blamed the communists, or now global terrorism.18:37
DocScrutinizer05Russia better had picked the terrorist card. After all this is a real threat, given that (afaik!) the Krim Tartars are muslim and might get "help" from real terrorists18:40
DocScrutinizer05but I admit a caling a 100,000 people on Kiev's streets terrorists is maybe too ridiculous even for propaganda18:42
DocScrutinizer05it's quite tale-telling that all these counter-revolutionary demonstrations and sqatting and whatnot always finally end with somebody waving a *russian* flag18:44
DocScrutinizer05russian army encircling regular ukrainian army facilities on Krim and telling them to surrender doesn't sound like Russia is *protecting* anybody there18:48
wpwrakthey're protecting the fellow soldiers. they're protecting them from the dangers of armed conflict. all they have to do is be reasonable and do as they're told, i.e., surrender.18:49
DocScrutinizer05sure, those bloody fascists. Better they surrender18:50
wpwrakmaybe the hidden plan is to finally get putin the peace nobel price. i mean, obama, lord of drones, got one too.18:50
wpwrakpriZe even. i always get that wrong :-(18:51
larscwell russia is helping their friends in the urkaine to protect them from the fascists that have unlawfully taken control of the government20:10
pcercueihow nice of them20:11
pcercueihelping their neighbour like that20:11
wpwraka humanitarian peace mission. sorry, snowden. no peace nobel prize for you this time. putin deserves it so much more.20:20
whitequarka homebrew oled: http://hackaday.com/2014/03/02/making-oleds-in-the-kitchen-sink/21:21
wpwrakhmm, kinda low resolution21:26
whitequarkI see if one made a homebrew IC, you'd complain it's not done on 20nm node? ;)21:30
wpwraknaw, homebrewn ic would be useful at almost any level. leds are a commodity.21:31
whitequarkI don't know, homebrewn ics don't sound very useful to me21:31
whitequarkit is hard to imagine a case where ROI, so to say, of a homebrewn IC is higher than of any other solution21:32
wpwrakif you can streamline the process to the point where it's not a once in a lifetime thing, why not ?21:32
whitequarkbecause you'd likely have a very hard time doing something more complex than 1970s level?21:33
whitequarkand for that case, you'd be better off using a CPLD or FPGA21:33
whitequarkor discrete circuits, perhaps.21:33
wpwrakwel, make it analog then21:43
wpwrakor mixed21:44
nicksydneywhile the world is busy with heavy gunpower in Ukraine another country are able to swoop up Zimbabwe without any blood being spilled ... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-02/meanwhile-china-quietly-takes-over-zimbabwe 21:52
CYB3R> China Quietly Takes Over Zimbabwe21:54
wpwraki wonder which one is more biased - nick's zerohedge or fidel's granma. it's a pity we no longer have pravda. and the chinese media seem to be boringly factual, completely lacking that good old cold war spirit :)21:56
nicksydneythe world need "fresh" news :)22:01
nicksydneyon another interesting note http://www.news.com.au/technology/japan-researchers-testing-tiny-ear-computer/story-e6frfrnr-122684254897222:01
nicksydneygheezz... The 17-gram wireless device has bluetooth capability and is equipped with a GPS, compass, gyro-sensor, battery, barometer, speaker and microphone.22:02
nicksydneywpwrak: lighter than analok :)22:02
nicksydneyuhh fancy your own wine http://www.businessinsider.com.au/miracle-machine-how-to-make-wine-at-home-2014-3 23:06
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