#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2014-02-05

whitequarksigh... my printer can't print straight00:08
nicksydneythis is cool http://scott.j38.net/interactive/reach/ 05:32
larscgreat... just got one of those parallella boards, first thing I did was almost break off the HDMI connector11:37
nicksydneylarsc: this board https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone  ?12:09
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix launching OPKs with a file containing spaces (opkrun) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/1a1f89113:54
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: linkapp.cpp: remove dead/useless code (opkrun) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a7f0fef13:54
nicksydneywohoo! had a successfull day today programming the attiny13 board using arduino as the ISP...awesome!...feels like you are in a casino and the house let you win :)14:23
wpwrakthere's probably a few very broad-shouldered fellows right outside the exit, waiting for you :)14:25
nicksydneyyeah i think so :)14:28
nicksydneyfew pics .. http://ctrlv.in/291587...http://ctrlv.in/29158814:29
nicksydneywpwrak: video http://videopasteus.s3.amazonaws.com/videos/59dbfa1306ce42bd85150da335a99256.html14:31
nicksydneywpwrak: another http://videopasteus.s3.amazonaws.com/videos/16b62315a46840f597b429bca884bcab.html14:33
wpwrakhmm, your pcb really looks like pertinax (FR2)14:39
nicksydneyit is very flimsy the PCB14:40
wpwraksolidity shouldn't really be an issue at that size. or do you mean it's particularly thin ?14:44
nicksydneyit's thin and not that sturdy14:44
nicksydneyi notice also the copper layer is thin...if i scrape hard with knife it can come off14:44
nicksydneybut the one i bought locally that is double sided that is thick and hard...can't peel the copper layer off easily with knife14:45
nicksydneythe double sided takes a *LOT* of force to really scrape it off14:45
wpwrakwell, there are different thicknesses in the market. both for pcbs and for the copper sheet. so that board is thinner than 1.6 mm ?14:47
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Revert to launching in the shell for non-OPK apps (opkrun) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/55a652815:27
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Use 'opkrun' to execute OPK files (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/7c1af3a15:30
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Redirect to log by redefining stdout and stderr (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/6ef3f3b15:30
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Execute the links directly, don't use the shell (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/2ab444815:30
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix launching OPKs with a file containing spaces (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/1a1f89115:30
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: linkapp.cpp: remove dead/useless code (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a7f0fef15:30
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Revert to launching in the shell for non-OPK apps (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/55a652815:30
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Merge branch 'opkrun' (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/0fd833315:30
whitequarkgrmbl. the courier who should have delivered my endmills is late :(15:49
whitequarkbut on the bright side, the company who sells them says that if the courier is late, they'll compensate the delivery cost15:50
larscwhen he shows up he probably wants half of that compenstation16:26
whitequarkI guess the company just pays the cost themselves16:28
whitequarkthey better do, for the amount they charge16:30
whitequarkhey wpwrak 19:20
whitequarkwhat did you use to make anelok and ybox case? what material? what cad/cam?19:22
rohi think wood and acryllic and 'his own' ;)19:55
whitequarkyes, looks like the case20:18
whitequark'the case' hehe20:22
wpwrakyes, the cases are all regular acrylic, airbrush-painted in some cases.21:04
wpwrakcad/cam: fped and its friends from the qi-hw cae-tools repo :)21:05
wpwrakmy standard interchange format is annotated gnuplot. at the end, i convert it to RML-1, which is what my mill consumes. i don't have any g-code eating  devices, but it shouldn't be too hard to write a converter21:07
wpwrakthe critters in cae-tools do things like simple coordinate transforms, offsetting, area fills, and so on21:09
whitequarkannotated, sorry, what?21:11
whitequark*gnuplot* ?21:11
whitequarkwill you next release anelok firmware as base98 in EBCDIC-encoded man pages ?21:12
whitequark(converter) yeah, doesn't look like there is one21:13
wpwrak(annotated) i can put meta-data as "comments". though i don't really use that21:14
whitequarkas you could guess I'm planning to make myself an anelok sometime in the future21:14
whitequarkboth as a useful device and something to learn on21:14
wpwrakgnuplot is a nice enough format. easy to parse, easy to generate, easy to view.21:14
wpwrakhehe :)21:14
whitequarkI'm currently looking at 2-factor auth with yubikey as a solution21:15
whitequarkbut it only has two slots and needs USB so...21:15
whitequark(technically it also has NFC, and they reassure me that their NFC can't be read in an unauthorized way, but I don't trust that crap)21:15
wpwrakyeah, a bit limited. small and cheap, though. at least something:)21:16
whitequarkyubikey? cheap?! $40 for a 1.5x1.5cm board?!21:16
whitequarkapparently they use unicorn blood instead of epoxy21:17
wpwrakUSD 25 ? https://store.yubico.com/store/catalog/index.php?cPath=221:17
whitequarkI bought the nano one21:17
wpwrakbut yes, there's inevitably a markup :)21:17
whitequarksince it's going to sit in my USB almost permanently and the regular one is too easy to break21:17
whitequarkbtw, RML seems simple enough you could write a converter to gcode with sed21:18
wpwrakprobably ... or just write a proper gp2gcode21:18
wpwraksome of my tools aren't quite clean. e.g., you'll find some assumptions about the height of my mill in some generic-looking makefiles.21:19
wpwrakso you have to be a bit careful if you just want to run the whole stack without checking what it actually does21:20
whitequarkanyway, I'm still waiting for my endmills :/21:22
nicksydneyhttp://blocks.wizb.it/ --  realtime bitcoin transactions on a globe.21:43
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