#qi-hardware IRC log for Friday, 2014-01-24

DocScrutinizer05http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/DKSB1015A/906-1002-ND/4360804  http://eewiki.net/display/projects/Panasonic GridEYE Breakout Board and GUI00:46
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Action: DocScrutinizer05 hates idiots creating URLs with spaces00:47
larscapelete_: I think there is a register that you need to write to in order to enable DMA07:58
apeletelarsc: right, that must be DMA_EN bit in control register, completely forgot about that one09:03
viricDocScrutinizer05: 'magyar' is pronounced with d, right? I just noticed there is g, not d.11:32
DocScrutinizer05viric: no idea13:01
DocScrutinizer05in german for sure not, but then it's no german word I'd know of13:02
DocScrutinizer05hungarin people might use a "d"13:02
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: update libusb name to libusb-compat (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/bfeda4f13:08
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: update libusb name (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/7c906f013:10
wpwrak(ir sensor) i wonder how long until someone finally makes a low-cost high-res sensor ...13:23
whitequarkokay, the cnc has arrived14:12
wpwraki pity your neighbours14:13
whitequarkhm, why?14:14
wpwrakyou don't expect it to be silent, do you ? :)14:14
whitequarkwell, those fuckers just *love* to drill some walls when I'm trying to sleep14:14
wpwrakand at, say, 4 am, sound carries far ...14:15
whitequarkso, let them suffer14:15
whitequark(it goes without saying that I don't necessarily try to sleep at night)14:15
wpwrakhint: you get the best sound effects when milling aluminium. since it's not self-lubricating, it will screech ...14:15
wpwrakyes, i took that into consideration :)14:16
whitequarkunfortunately, there's some $work to do before I can play with it...14:16
wpwrakto avoid turning my friendly neighbours into mortal enemies, i constructed a double-walled box for my mill, with foam between the walls. that keeps moderate amounts of noise in quite well.14:17
wpwrakgood enough for pcbs, acrylic, mdf, wood, and such.14:18
nicksydneyafter 2 days of troubleshooting 555 issue the problem lies in with the IC14:18
whitequarkmmhm. on the serious note, the walls here are not *that* bad. if you're not drilling the wall directly, it's not really loud14:18
whitequarknot annoyingly loud14:18
wpwrakyou'd probably still hear the mill's pitiful screaming is it works it way through aluminium, though. my mill isn't very strong, so it has to go very slow for Al.14:18
nicksydneylesson learned : make sure you have *ENOUGH* of component that you are using for your project in hand !!!!14:19
wpwraknicksydney: did you overcook it ? :)14:19
whitequarkwpwrak: are houses in Argentina also made of cardboard, like they do in US for some weird reason?14:19
wpwrakand yes, that's why i always buy something like 10 at a time ;-)14:19
nicksydneywpwrak: i think so.....i remembered for some reason i was testing it with a mobile phone power supply (5v , 800ma) to use it on the breadboard...as i don't have enough batter lying around !14:20
nicksydneywhen it flash man !! I feel so exposed ! :)14:20
wpwrakwhitequark: the walls are reasonable. not medieval fortress-style, but okay. hollow bricks for interior walls. the sound may not get that much through the walls but through other openings. isolation isn't a very high priority around here.14:21
whitequarkahh, I see. I can say that, say, screams of children are appropriately attenuated14:21
whitequarkokay, that sounded a little bit more weird than I wanted it to14:22
whitequarkanyway, we'll learn soon enough. if there's an angry crowd and a battering ram at my door, I need to invest in soundproofing14:23
wpwraki guess the adult dissidents are more of a nuisance. stronger lungs and lower frequencies ...14:24
nicksydneywpwrak: LED flashing http://videopasteus.s3.amazonaws.com/videos/21b3f11afd864c1fb0f736baca430dc1.html :)14:24
wpwrakvery 1970es ;-)14:25
wpwraknext step: use an MCU instead14:25
nicksydneywpwrak: i got the KL chip too ;)14:25
nicksydneynext step is to make the PCB for the police siren with 2 x 555 timer 14:26
wpwraki'd skip the 555. it's too obsolete. you don't learn anything useful with it.14:27
nicksydneywpwrak: should i just jump to KL chip ?14:27
wpwrakyou could make a little development board with the kl25. have a few leds, some headers, usb, and use the frdm-kl25z for programming14:28
nicksydneythese 2 days really thought me something ... multimeter does not tell you the problem it can help you to detect voltage and current but it does not "show" you what wave pattern the voltage is in 14:28
wpwrak(i hope you got the latter to work now)14:28
nicksydneydamn it! haven't done the kl25z upgrade using Windows ....crap !14:28
wpwrak(wave pattern) now, miracles not included ;-)14:28
wpwrakhah ! :)14:28
nicksydneyif i have used a scope perhaps i could have seen that it is not giving out any wave pattern .. so at least i know it was a screwy IC14:29
nicksydneywpwrak: i don't understand why doesn't freescale provide flashing using USB ?14:33
wpwrakyou'll need a scope in the longer run. better plan on getting one. and don't look at the ultra-cheap ones. they're just trouble.14:33
nicksydneylike Atmel 14:33
nicksydneywpwrak: i'm saving for one...hopefully will save around $400 in the next 2-3months time14:33
wpwrak(flashing via usb) dunno. the chips would certainly be in a range where such a feature could be expected. maybe they'll add it in the future.14:34
wpwrakthe frdm-kl25z is actually quite nice once you get it to work. the file-based interface avoids all the trouble with drivers. their only (big) mistake was to not care about linux compatibility right from the beginning.14:35
nicksydneywpwrak: so if i didn't have the kl25z board and i design a board with the KL chip how do one go about flashing it then ? 14:36
wpwrakyou'd have to cook up an SWD solution with openocd and such. this promises to be messy. i wouldn't go that route.14:38
whitequarkopenocd's swd support is meh14:39
wpwraki'd get the frdm board to work, then either use that all the time or make a dfu loader and work with this14:39
wpwrakexactly :)14:39
wpwrakit exists but it's a mess14:39
nicksydneywhat is a dfu loader ? it's a bootloader ?14:40
wpwrakwhat i've seen regarding swd has convinced me that it should be possible to piece an open solution together but that it would be a piece of work14:40
wpwrakdfu is a transfer protocol, not too unlike tftp. it's very simple, designed for firmware uploads. it's also what atmel, stm, etc. generally use.14:41
wpwraki haven't made a loader for the kl25 just yet, but more or less all the code for it is around from ben-wpan14:42
wpwrake.g., the new y-box will get a dfu loader14:42
wpwrak(scope) if you want rock bottom pricing, a rigol ds1052e or ds1102e will be a good choice (USD 329-399)14:44
wpwrakif you can spend a little more, i'd go for the ds1074z (usd 585). it has four channels, which will be very handy at times. and some other advanced features as well. probably has the best price/performance ratio in today's market.14:45
nicksydneywpwrak: i think that price range is suitable for someone like me :)14:45
nicksydney($585) if i have to spend this much then i will need at least 4-5 months to save first :)14:46
wpwraktell the wife to go easy on the shoes for a while ;-)14:47
nicksydneywpwrak: haha.....I wish that's the case but here down under the biggest expense is living cost...it's F***** crazy expensive here !!14:47
wpwrakor this one: http://dfu-util.gnumonks.org/14:48
wpwrak(cost living) probably all the glue ... the glue you need that you don't fall off the earth :)14:49
nicksydneyso in order to 'download' to the device the device must be running an 'app' or 'daemon' that is listening to USB ?14:52
wpwrakyes, it must run either the dfu loader or a usb stack that can switch to the dfu loader14:54
whitequarkit needs a stub in the application which would transfer it to DFU mode, and a DFU bootloader14:54
whitequarkusually the loader is separate to make it more robust14:55
wpwrakwhat i do is that i run a dfu-only boot loader first for maybe 2 seconds.if nobody tries to talk to it, then it jumps to the application14:55
wpwrakthat way, if the application is broken, you can still dfu14:55
wpwrakyou can see the whole architecture in ben-wpan/atusb/fw/14:56
nicksydneywpwrak: thanks will read it14:56
wpwraknote that boot loader and application are really two separate programs, although they share a lot of code15:03
nicksydneyunderstood :)15:04
whitequarkthis chinese power supply has an excellent manual16:01
whitequarkquoting: " power supply are not allow at full load state for long time. control your utilization rate of less than 60%, or they may cause human early failure"16:01
lekernelsubmit it to http://engrish.com/ :)16:05
wpwrakbrilliant :)16:06
wpwrakreminds me a bit of the owner's manual of the alfa romeo i had in switzerland. it said something like "do not drive at excessive speed for prolonged time"16:08
wpwraki have to admit that the car, small as it was, was perfectly capable of doing just that :)16:09
whitequarkthe box has really creative packaging16:17
rohwhitequark: i once had a manual which sayd something like 'if there is conflict between reality and manual, please give priority to reality'16:17
whitequarkthey take polyethylene packages and inflate them with polyurethane assembly foam16:17
whitequarkroh: hehehe. that's some good advice, you must admit!16:17
wpwrakroh: that's what you get when you hire philosophy students for your documentation department ;-)16:18
rohi found that really sane. compared to other manuals.16:19
whitequarkhrm. some assembly required16:33
whitequarkinstructions for assembly... not included?16:36
whitequarkexcept maybe they're on the CD-R. CD-R, LPT, PRC is certainly not on a forefront of technological innovation16:36
whitequarkdo I even have anything to read it with.16:36
whitequark"comes with a two year warranty" now that's neat!16:38
whitequarkI actually know what this reminds me about. USSR. sturdy, absolutely massive (both literally and figuratively) machinery with solid repairability and "some assembly requirements"16:41
whitequarkit even looks that way16:41
whitequarkwell, it's not really surprising16:42
whitequarklol no. the CD only includes a pirated version of MACH3 CNC control software16:43
whitequark... fuck.17:03
whitequarkthe control block is rated 110-120VAC.17:03
Action: whitequark sighs17:03
wpwrakit runs directly off mains ?17:05
larscnothing you can't slove with a bunch of copper wire and two sticks ;)17:05
whitequarkwell, it includes the stepper drivers17:06
whitequarkand looking at how they're still with LPT, I have this suspicion they haven't discovered switch-mode power supplies yet17:06
wpwrakdo they already use valves ? or is it still relays ? :)17:07
whitequarkhaven't disassembled it yet17:08
whitequarkyeah, it contains an enormous transformer. input; 110V 50HZ; output: 18V white 36V yellow17:16
whitequarkand it is truly enormous, the damn thing weights, I think, about 3kg17:16
whitequarkyeah, 3100 g17:18
wpwraknow you need another 3 kg 220 V to 110 V transformer ;-)17:21
whitequarkyeah I'll try to find one. might be tricky.17:22
wpwrakreally ?17:22
whitequarkI'll also contact the vendor, they seem to present themselves as extremely helpful. time to check that!17:22
whitequark(tricky) yeah, why would people want such transformers?17:22
whitequark99% of electronics already supports 110-240V, because they're not living in the damn 19th century17:23
whitequarkand the rest is localized and sold in variants17:23
DocScrutinizer05whitequark: you finally received your CNC?17:24
wpwrakstill. there's always the odd 110 V item. even modern products.17:24
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: yeah17:24
whitequarkand it's rated 110V :/17:24
whitequarkand it has a fucking transformer17:24
whitequarkI *thought* they would include a switch-mode supply, but noooooo, of course not!17:25
wpwrakwould you have preferred resistors ? :-)17:25
DocScrutinizer05check transformer, it may have a 220V setting17:25
whitequarkno, already disassembled it. clearly rated as 110V only on the label17:25
wpwrakmaybe there's a 9 V output ? then you could apply chinese pragmatism :)17:26
DocScrutinizer05you are in for a 220->110 converter then17:26
whitequark(9V output) nah17:26
whitequarkthought about it already ;)17:26
DocScrutinizer05find any 220V transformer that consists of 2 times 110V primary coils17:27
DocScrutinizer05and is heavy enough17:27
whitequarkwelp, I don't really collect antique power supplies17:28
whitequarkanything I might have is strictly switch-mode17:28
DocScrutinizer05connect it o--110V-^-110V-^-o17:28
whitequarkI have one adjustable power supply, but this thing needs 36V and 18V17:28
DocScrutinizer05where "o" are your 220V mains, and "^" is your CNC17:28
whitequarkand this one only goes up to 27V anyway17:28
whitequarkyeah I understand how transformers work :p17:29
DocScrutinizer05this is a special way though17:29
wpwrakin the good old days, you'd just have connected it to 220 V or whatever, and it would have worked :)17:29
whitequarkby the way, the insides have some veeeery interesting exposed and labeled pads17:30
whitequark"PWM" "STOP" "SW1" for the spindle board17:30
whitequark"CP+- DIR+- LIMIT" for the stepper board17:30
whitequarkalso "PROBE", whatever that is17:31
whitequarkthere's even some holes tucked with plastic in the case17:31
whitequarkDocScrutinizer05: yep, I know17:31
whitequarkit's a pretty funny mode of operation17:31
DocScrutinizer05yeah, for others nevertheless: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartransformator17:32
whitequarkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autotransformer :)17:32
whitequarkI don't really use ru.wiki, it sucks17:32
DocScrutinizer05looks like17:35
DocScrutinizer05what usually isn't considered though: each transformer with more than one primary coil can get used as a autotransformer. Actually since there's no difference between priimary and secondary coils you can use every transformer as a autotransformer ;-)17:37
Action: whitequark nods17:37
whitequarkwow: http://www.avito.ru/moskva/kollektsionirovanie/avtotransformator_karbolit_sssr_1958_g_18494853817:40
whitequarkthis is literally antique: 1958!17:40
whitequarkok, asked the vendor for the 220V control box. let's wait...17:57
DocScrutinizer05you're sure the transformer has no 220V tap?18:15
whitequarkwell, it's tightly wrapped in some plastic crap, and there aren't any unconnected wires18:17
whitequarkI'd rather not unwrap it18:17
DocScrutinizer05no wires -> no tap18:33
DocScrutinizer05a pity18:34
DocScrutinizer05I guess the priimary coil isn't built to cope with 220V and you simply use a different secondary voltage/tap18:35
DocScrutinizer05I bet they will offer to send you a 220->110 converter18:36
DocScrutinizer05or refund you for purchasing one18:36
whitequarkeither one is fine for me18:36
whitequarkthey send from US, but, yeah, china18:37
DocScrutinizer05then they for sure don't want you to send back the wrong controlbox18:37
whitequarkthat would be bloody expensive, shipping back 3kg of metal18:38
whitequarkI've spent almost half of the cost of the CNC getting it to russia18:38
DocScrutinizer05get a autotransformer from next surplus store, and offer them to pay a refund18:38
DocScrutinizer05such transformer converter is useful for other stuff as well18:39
whitequarkwell, I have a bunch of other stuff with 110V plug, but you see, I just pop it into my 220V mains and it works18:39
whitequarkbecause switchmode supplies are so. fucking. awesome.18:40
DocScrutinizer05and the heck, Russia for sure has the best most rugged converter transformers you could possibly find in this universe18:40
whitequarkthere's basically three options for that18:40
whitequark1) LATR, laboratory autotransformer. kinda expensive and I don't really need adjustable output voltage18:40
whitequarkaltohugh maybe I could find some other use for it...18:41
whitequark2) antique soviet transformers. I'm sure they were fine when they were first made, but I'm wary of buying 40+ year old stuff stored in unknown conditions (likely just outside in the cold, at least for some time) and plugging it into mains18:41
whitequark3) some new ones. also expensive and there isn't a lot of options.18:42
DocScrutinizer05no worries, transformers are a rare case of "lasts forever"18:42
DocScrutinizer05worst thing to happen is when isolation of the connect wires gets brittle18:44
whitequarkthis one seems kinda fine18:44
DocScrutinizer05even a ring core18:44
whitequarkfor $2018:45
DocScrutinizer05get it18:45
whitequarkthis solves the problem, yeah18:45
whitequarkactually there's a guy on twitter who can lend me one, so don't even need to buy it18:58
whitequarkokay, I'm trying to understand how this adjustable power supply works19:14
whitequarkit has constant voltage and constant current modes19:14
whitequarkbut the manual is completely incomprehensible19:14
whitequarkah, it's simple. when the current is less than setpoint, it's in constant voltage mode. when it's equal, it's in constant current one.19:19
wpwrakkinda obvious if you think of it, isn't it ? :)19:49
whitequarkI just left the manual aside and thought for a bit of time. Easier that way.19:50
whitequarkokay, gcode. suppose I want to generate a toolpath for, say, Rust logo:20:21
whitequarkI wonder what's the best way to do it?20:21
whitequarkhm, apparently I can either write the gcode by hand (or make a program to do it), or use a CAM processor20:46
DocScrutinizer05DAMN! this fuji XQ1.... acts like a AP. Which tricked me into turning my AP into a client X-S21:44
DocScrutinizer05wonder how I could make the camera act as second AP via USB ;-P21:44
DocScrutinizer05could anybody with a damn android or iPhone (or even windows) check what IP traffic these friggin apps ( http://app.fujifilm-dsc.com/de/pc_autosave/index.html et al) create to talk to camera?21:48
whitequarkum, I have windows and android21:49
whitequarkwhat exactly do you want?21:49
whitequarkI don't have your camera21:49
DocScrutinizer05the app pings the camera somehow21:50
DocScrutinizer05or opens a port and listens, at least21:50
whitequarkpc_autosave thing is the PC one?21:50
whitequarkwell, dumb question21:50
DocScrutinizer05yep, I guess21:50
whitequarkok, I'll check in a virtualbox21:51
DocScrutinizer05when I start "wireless" on camera, it tells me to "start app on PC!"21:51
DocScrutinizer05camera acts as a AP21:51
DocScrutinizer05I made it "connect" to another AP nevertheless, so in some cases it seems to act as wlan client21:52
DocScrutinizer05but it doesn't talk21:52
DocScrutinizer05neither does it show up in DHCP21:52
DocScrutinizer05so I guess the damn PC-app is semding a broacast21:52
DocScrutinizer05I bet once it got associated and has an IP, I can talk pictbridge or even ftp to it21:53
DocScrutinizer05I have no WLAN stick for my PC, otherwise I'd fire it up and snoop on it with wireshark or even airodump21:54
DocScrutinizer05aunt google knows shit about XQ1 WLAN protocol21:55
DocScrutinizer05my N900 detected AP as "Fuji-XQ1" AP without any encryption21:56
whitequarkiw phy phy0 interface add mon0 type monitor21:56
whitequarkwireshark -i mon021:56
whitequarkthat's all you need21:56
DocScrutinizer05"Fuji-XQ1" been the name I assigned to the cam in on-board menu before21:56
DocScrutinizer05whitequark: you're talking in tongues to me21:57
whitequarkthat's a command to create a monitor interface for an existing wlan phy21:58
DocScrutinizer05you think I could monitor the traffic on router's WLAN from my PC?21:58
whitequarkif you have a wifi stick in it, yes21:58
DocScrutinizer05my PC *has* *no* WLAN21:58
whitequarkyes, I just seen you metnion airodump21:59
whitequarkand airodump is silly and I hate it, all it does is the iw command above21:59
whitequarkthat's all21:59
DocScrutinizer05[2014-01-24 22:54:30] <DocScrutinizer05> I have no WLAN stick for my PC, otherwise I'd fire it up and snoop on it with wireshark or even airodump21:59
whitequarkI just spent some hours figuring out how to invoke iw properly to add a monitor iface21:59
whitequarkwhat's on your router?21:59
whitequarkmine has openwrt22:00
whitequarkso, yeah, would be totally possible to snoop on wlan22:00
whitequarkshould be possible as well22:01
whitequarkit either has a mon0 iface or you can create it with the command above22:01
DocScrutinizer05thanks for the tip about iw monitor22:01
whitequarkthen tcpdump it22:01
whitequarktcpdump is one hell of deceptively named software22:01
DocScrutinizer05but that shell (and /bin/*) on that dd-wrt is a PITA22:02
whitequarkwell, coreutils weigh how much, 50MB?22:02
DocScrutinizer05I bet such stuff like tcpdump is pretty totally unknown to it22:03
whitequarkhard to put on a 4MB squashfs22:03
DocScrutinizer05you think I can install them, from the errrr pinkpony-repo?22:03
whitequark(tcpdump) yep, busybox doesn't have a tcpdump, it's an external package22:03
whitequarkin openwrt it's in the official repo22:03
whitequarkdunno about ddwrt, but it seems like an obvious tool to provide22:03
DocScrutinizer05I don't even know of *any* repo to install additional stuff on that router22:04
DocScrutinizer05well, that camera has a diabolic potential to waste my time on totally irrelevant stuff22:05
whitequarktl;dr: install tcpdump from openwrt22:05
whitequarkthe comments are probably wrong for you22:05
whitequarkwhat architecture it even is?22:06
whitequarkno, cpu. mips?22:06
whitequarkuname -a22:06
DocScrutinizer05lemme see if I can manage to log in to the damn router22:06
whitequarkok, so, what I suggest for you is just download and unpack those two packages22:07
whitequarkit's just dpkg, each with one file inside: libpcap and tcpdump itself22:07
whitequarkthen upload them anywhere on the router and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH and you're set22:07
whitequarkdon't even need to properly invoke ipkg. just put them to /tmp22:08
DocScrutinizer05saturn:/ # ssh root@
DocScrutinizer05ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection refused22:09
DocScrutinizer05saturn:/ # telnet
DocScrutinizer05telnet: connect to address Connection refused22:09
DocScrutinizer05I seem to recall I made it to telnet to the router previously22:10
whitequarklog in through the web interface and upload your ssh key22:10
DocScrutinizer05some year and a half ago22:10
DocScrutinizer05nah, I'm not too eager to mess with this damn router now22:11
DocScrutinizer05I'll rather use my CF-27 anti-tank-mine to connect to the XQ1 directly22:12
whitequarkoh, not a literal anti-tank mine22:12
whitequarkwouldn't be too surprised22:12
DocScrutinizer05TankBomb err ToughBook22:12
DocScrutinizer05it's in 24/7 standbay in some closet, waiting to get unplugged from power supply and resumed22:13
DocScrutinizer05in case somebody throws a real bomb22:13
DocScrutinizer05(which reminds me about the missing SIM in the 2G modem of that laptop)22:14
whitequarkgrab money, papers, toughbook, run ?22:14
DocScrutinizer05sth like that, yep22:14
whitequarkyou're living in germany. not libya. no?22:14
DocScrutinizer05the toughbook is an excellent weapon22:14
DocScrutinizer05catches bullets, crashes through everything you swing it against22:15
DocScrutinizer05you can sit on it22:16
DocScrutinizer05and even use it to communicate22:16
DocScrutinizer05or watch maps etc22:16
whitequarkok, your fujicrap downloaded to my vm22:17
DocScrutinizer05:-D \o/22:17
whitequarkugh, .NET framework22:19
DocScrutinizer05thought as much22:19
DocScrutinizer05for sure fujiCRAP22:19
whitequark.NET is not exactly bad, I mean, C# is a nice language if you have to use windows22:20
whitequarkbut my VM is winxp and doesn't have any of the frameworks installed22:20
whitequarkso now I'm stuck downloading even more crap22:21
DocScrutinizer05see, this whole stuff is poisonous22:21
whitequarkno traffic generated22:25
DocScrutinizer05I guess if we could come up with a sane solution allowing to download pictures from the XQ1 via WLAN (maybe even use the "instant download to PC" function that's supposed to transfer each shot instantaneously to the PC after shooting), we could even *sell* that22:25
whitequarkcan you connect the camera to AP?22:25
DocScrutinizer05yes, seems like I can22:25
whitequarksee, if the camera generates broadcast packets, you can watch them from your PC22:25
whitequarkprecisely because they're broadcast22:25
whitequarkand now we know PC doesn't emit anything22:25
DocScrutinizer05there's the "PC download" mode that's supposed to do that22:26
DocScrutinizer05yes, will fire up wireshark to see if any broadcast inbound22:26
whitequarkoooh a wild guess22:26
whitequarkit uses SMB22:26
whitequarksee, the connection screen displays the SMB hostname of the PC22:27
whitequarkand SMB does the broadcast thing22:27
whitequarkyou might be able to set it up with samba22:27
DocScrutinizer05ok, UDP from to >>DISCOVER * HTTP/1.1\\\MX:3\\\HOST:\\\DSCADDR:\\\SERVICE:PCAUTOSAVE/1.0<<23:09
whitequarkno registered or googleable services23:16
DocScrutinizer05Source: FujiPhot_a9:55:61 (00:c0:2d:a9:55:61)23:16
whitequarklooks like it's a custom protocol23:16
whitequarkhuh, g-code is actually turing-complete23:30
whitequarkI should write something insane in it23:30
whitequarka brainfuck interpreter using a literal tape to store data!23:31
whitequarkhm, no, no input facilities23:31
whitequarkthis guy is insane23:48
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