#qi-hardware IRC log for Sunday, 2013-11-10

whitequarkanyone knows his email?14:27
whitequarkoh, he's online.14:28
ysionneauhum, wernermisc repository is still down17:28
ysionneauor is it just me?17:30
ysionneaugit clone git://projects.qi-hardware.com/wernermisc.git17:30
kyakworks fine here17:49
kyakviric: md5sum for filegive 0.6 doesn't match17:54
kyakdon't tell me you are silently substituting releases :)17:55
larscprobably just the NSA17:56
larscwell, lets hope that the apology is sincere and not just a publicity stunt18:01
ysionneauoh, maybe my firewall ...18:12
wpwrak(ubuntu) that's roughly what i suspected. doesn't really make sense in any other way. they may be doing many questionable things, but i don't think they're stupid enough to try censorship.18:24
lekernelopen source tea party18:28
DocScrutinizer05shuttleworth, bah18:29
DocScrutinizer05this dude shouldn't start apologizing18:29
DocScrutinizer05since when he starts, he likely wouldn't reach an end18:30
lekernelwell I'm quite happy finally someone does something substantial about the X11 shitware18:30
DocScrutinizer05in my book canonical/ubuntu is only marginally less rogue than google/android18:31
ysionneausorry it was my firewall18:31
ysionneausorry to accuse qi-hw infrastructure :)18:31
wpwrakhah ! :)18:32
lekernelX11 is akin to PCs booting in real mode. both have consequences: Intel laptops have poor battery life and the UI experience on Linux is a mess.18:33
DocScrutinizer05I don't see any mess in my UX experience18:33
DocScrutinizer05I however see a lot of mess and damage done to the unix universe at large, by dudes like Poettering and forks like android and ubuntu and projects like wayland/mir when they think they CBA to care about X11 backward compatibility18:36
DocScrutinizer05the only UI mess I see is from braindead aproaches like Qt trying to avoid X11 IM and create their own vkbd and spellchecking and hw-kbd mapping and whatnot else18:40
DocScrutinizer05which for me makes a quite insane cross-platform approach, that is like "we want this toolkit to work on multiple platforms, so let's make the platforms more similar so this can pan out"18:41
DocScrutinizer05resulting in linux/unix apps in Qt acting much like windows apps18:42
DocScrutinizer05which is not exactly what I'm cheerful about 18:42
Action: DocScrutinizer05 sits back and waits who's going to win the race to define a whole new OS paradigm: systemd or Qt18:43
DocScrutinizer05worst case they unite18:44
DocScrutinizer05obsoleting kernel and linux at alrge18:44
DocScrutinizer05in my book if it's not compatible to other unix flavors anymore, then it's not a proper linux18:45
lekernelwhat's wrong with that? unix is a terrible system18:46
wpwraklamest troll ever ;-)18:50
lekernelseriously though, unix isn't perfect18:51
larscsystemd is pretty good imo. the startup process done right19:18
whitequarklekernel: idk at battery life, their latest soc is competitive with arms19:44
whitequarkhaswell i think19:45
virickyak: auhm really?20:01
virickyak: what md5sum do you expect? For what url?20:04
viricI see the aur20:08
viricno ide.a20:11
virictarballs are genertated 'on the fly', but I didn't expect differences.20:11
viricah understood. Right, it seems I'm changing hashes. :) (I told fossil to include two id files in the tarball, recently)20:15
viricah sorry if someone already posted it: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-diy-cyborg20:31
viricwill we see one day wpwrak like this? :)20:31
dos1cool and creepy at the same time ;x20:36
larscdid he put a arduino in there?20:36
dos1damn, it's massive - and I guess that's the main thing that makes it creepy20:37
viriclarsc: :D20:37
wpwrakviric: hardly. a) i like my gadgets small. b) i'd rather go the opposite direction: upload my mind into a computer. that hardware much easier to maintain.20:47
wpwrakc) look a all the nicely red inflamed tissue. i think he'll have so much more fun with his implant.20:48
viricbut he got on the news.20:49
larscI wonder can he acutally do anything with that thing that you can do with just attached to the _outside_ of the skin?20:50
wpwraksubcutaneous light ? :)20:50
viricsubcutaneous light during one week days of battery power.20:54
larscone week is not bad, compared to my mobile phone ;)20:56
DocScrutinizer05larsc: systemd is a bloated undebugable abomination, that even ahs less built in for --help23:39
DocScrutinizer05not to mention intergartion of udev and d-bus23:39
whitequark"no poettering" should be a feature23:44
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