whitequark | anyone knows his email? | 14:27 |
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whitequark | oh, he's online. | 14:28 |
ysionneau | hum, wernermisc repository is still down | 17:28 |
ysionneau | or is it just me? | 17:30 |
ysionneau | git clone git://projects.qi-hardware.com/wernermisc.git | 17:30 |
kyak | works fine here | 17:49 |
kyak | viric: md5sum for filegive 0.6 doesn't match | 17:54 |
kyak | don't tell me you are silently substituting releases :) | 17:55 |
larsc | probably just the NSA | 17:56 |
whitequark | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwOTk | 17:58 |
larsc | well, lets hope that the apology is sincere and not just a publicity stunt | 18:01 |
ysionneau | oh, maybe my firewall ... | 18:12 |
wpwrak | (ubuntu) that's roughly what i suspected. doesn't really make sense in any other way. they may be doing many questionable things, but i don't think they're stupid enough to try censorship. | 18:24 |
lekernel | open source tea party | 18:28 |
lekernel | :) | 18:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | shuttleworth, bah | 18:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | this dude shouldn't start apologizing | 18:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | since when he starts, he likely wouldn't reach an end | 18:30 |
lekernel | well I'm quite happy finally someone does something substantial about the X11 shitware | 18:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | in my book canonical/ubuntu is only marginally less rogue than google/android | 18:31 |
ysionneau | sorry it was my firewall | 18:31 |
ysionneau | sorry to accuse qi-hw infrastructure :) | 18:31 |
wpwrak | hah ! :) | 18:32 |
lekernel | X11 is akin to PCs booting in real mode. both have consequences: Intel laptops have poor battery life and the UI experience on Linux is a mess. | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I don't see any mess in my UX experience | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I however see a lot of mess and damage done to the unix universe at large, by dudes like Poettering and forks like android and ubuntu and projects like wayland/mir when they think they CBA to care about X11 backward compatibility | 18:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the only UI mess I see is from braindead aproaches like Qt trying to avoid X11 IM and create their own vkbd and spellchecking and hw-kbd mapping and whatnot else | 18:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | which for me makes a quite insane cross-platform approach, that is like "we want this toolkit to work on multiple platforms, so let's make the platforms more similar so this can pan out" | 18:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | resulting in linux/unix apps in Qt acting much like windows apps | 18:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | which is not exactly what I'm cheerful about | 18:42 |
Action: DocScrutinizer05 sits back and waits who's going to win the race to define a whole new OS paradigm: systemd or Qt | 18:43 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | worst case they unite | 18:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | obsoleting kernel and linux at alrge | 18:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | large* | 18:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | in my book if it's not compatible to other unix flavors anymore, then it's not a proper linux | 18:45 |
lekernel | what's wrong with that? unix is a terrible system | 18:46 |
wpwrak | lamest troll ever ;-) | 18:50 |
lekernel | :) | 18:50 |
lekernel | seriously though, unix isn't perfect | 18:51 |
larsc | systemd is pretty good imo. the startup process done right | 19:18 |
whitequark | lekernel: idk at battery life, their latest soc is competitive with arms | 19:44 |
whitequark | haswell i think | 19:45 |
viric | kyak: auhm really? | 20:01 |
viric | kyak: what md5sum do you expect? For what url? | 20:04 |
viric | I see the aur | 20:08 |
viric | no ide.a | 20:11 |
viric | tarballs are genertated 'on the fly', but I didn't expect differences. | 20:11 |
viric | ah understood. Right, it seems I'm changing hashes. :) (I told fossil to include two id files in the tarball, recently) | 20:15 |
whitequark | http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2013-10-16/the-first-car-you-can-build-yourself-dot-in-an-hour | 20:19 |
viric | ah sorry if someone already posted it: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-diy-cyborg | 20:31 |
viric | will we see one day wpwrak like this? :) | 20:31 |
dos1 | cool and creepy at the same time ;x | 20:36 |
larsc | did he put a arduino in there? | 20:36 |
dos1 | damn, it's massive - and I guess that's the main thing that makes it creepy | 20:37 |
viric | larsc: :D | 20:37 |
wpwrak | viric: hardly. a) i like my gadgets small. b) i'd rather go the opposite direction: upload my mind into a computer. that hardware much easier to maintain. | 20:47 |
viric | :) | 20:47 |
wpwrak | c) look a all the nicely red inflamed tissue. i think he'll have so much more fun with his implant. | 20:48 |
viric | but he got on the news. | 20:49 |
larsc | I wonder can he acutally do anything with that thing that you can do with just attached to the _outside_ of the skin? | 20:50 |
wpwrak | subcutaneous light ? :) | 20:50 |
viric | subcutaneous light during one week days of battery power. | 20:54 |
larsc | one week is not bad, compared to my mobile phone ;) | 20:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | larsc: systemd is a bloated undebugable abomination, that even ahs less built in for --help | 23:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | not to mention intergartion of udev and d-bus | 23:39 |
whitequark | "no poettering" should be a feature | 23:44 |
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