#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2013-09-25

--- Wed Sep 25 201300:00
viricdid I hear that debian is going to stop doing mips(el) builds?14:40
larscif no one steps up to fix MIPS problems15:05
larscviric: there is your chance ;)15:05
viricme? debian? no, thank you :)15:06
viricwhere are the problems, though? In what software?15:07
larscJust in general15:07
viricI guess it's more the lack of users/developers than the problems. All have problems.15:08
kristianpaulmess? or porting issues?15:08
larscThe Debian process requires someone who is going to take care of issue if they arise15:08
larscE.g. if a package doesn't compile anymore on MIPS after a compiler upgrade15:08
larscCause the whole compiler upgrade is going to be blocked until the issue is resolved15:09
viricok, lack of responsible at the debian organisation15:09
viricno surprise.15:10
viricI can only say that, on the FOSS world, I'm very positively impressed how they managed to gather responsible people15:10
kristianpaullack of use i bet, how many serious services stand on mips?15:11
kristianpauli meant for debian infraestructure15:11
larscThe internet15:11
larscbut probably not running debian15:11
viricyes, there are tons of routers/switches15:12
kristianpaullarsc: indeed /not running/15:12
larscwell anyway, time to get some food and then be a virtual booth representative15:13
kristianpaulnew job?15:16
viriclarsc: on second life?15:19
larsckind of http://engage.vevent.com/index.jsp?eid=2781&seid=1515:27
viricvery good15:32
larscsign up now and win an iPad mini ;)15:34
GNUtoo-x60I'm looking again at the milkymist status after all theses years,21:21
GNUtoo-x60I saw there is a new version of the hadware in early bringup,21:21
GNUtoo-x60I wondered the current status of the "software" on the milkymist, and what was the differences between the milkymist and the mixxeo21:22
GNUtoo-x60I've downloaded some sources,21:22
GNUtoo-x60I've looked at the milkymist-ng repository,21:22
GNUtoo-x60the README says that migen is a dependecy21:23
GNUtoo-x60I heard that migen generate code like VHDL(maybe not VHDL but some code in VHDL or similar languages),21:23
GNUtoo-x60I've looked a bit more in milkymist-ng repository,21:23
GNUtoo-x60it's strnage: I can't find any dependency on fpga vendor tools,21:24
GNUtoo-x60is that problem fixed?21:24
GNUtoo-x60by vendor tools I meant non-free syntetizer21:24
GNUtoo-x60I've also looked at arch/*l*21:25
GNUtoo-x60in the mainline linux kenrel21:25
GNUtoo-x60I found no lattice32 or directory that looked like that21:25
GNUtoo-x60I'll look in the kenrel sources from the milkymist project for that...21:25
GNUtoo-x60btw the http://sharism.cc/ website seem down21:27
GNUtoo-x60ha, maybe it's the wrong channel,21:30
GNUtoo-x60they say to use #milkymist in the README of the git21:30
DocScrutinizer05latest madness: Neo900 goes  FreeCalypso modem option ;-P21:50
DocScrutinizer05for RMS and his disciples21:51
DocScrutinizer05roh: N900 refurbished: ~100 EUR21:56
DocScrutinizer05so we hardly can get any worse than those 100 bucks, for all the missing case_et_al parts to build a complete phone around a GTA04-NeoN21:57
DocScrutinizer05of course that assumes we can reuse parts like domesheet that are marked "Do NOT reuse! Dispose and get new part", in N900 service manual L1_222:12
DocScrutinizer05and I got a mail today that offers substantial 4 digit donations for accomplishing the protoboard development and building. Let's see if deeds will be louder than words here, in the positive sense22:20
wpwrakthat calypso has more lives than a bag of cats ;-)22:21
DocScrutinizer05not that I like this fact22:21
DocScrutinizer05I'd rather forget it ever existed22:22
DocScrutinizer05but that guy came up with the idea to build a FC-modem and place it onto GTA04-NeoN, to get a *really* free phone22:23
DocScrutinizer05I doubt I will ever consider actually building the modems, for sure not the prototypes. But if they exist eventually, we should make sure they will fit in Neo90022:24
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