#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2013-08-14

qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Query animation status instead of storing it (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/90afa0902:32
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Make ButtonBox deal with IconButtons instead of generic Buttons (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/06ee35b02:32
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Make Link and IconButton inherit from Button privately (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/6378fcf02:32
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed Button class (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/742444c02:32
ysionneauif anyone has a local clone then it's safe :)14:21
ysionneauthat's the beauty of git14:21
ysionneaubut indeed keeping a public repo is nice14:21
wpwrakkyak: nobody knows. wolfgang pays for the servers and maintains them. so silent disappearance is a possibility14:22
viricthis is internet. everything disappears.14:30
kyakysionneau: im almost sure that if openwrt-packages repo disappears right now, there is not a single person with an up to date clone :)14:48
kyakviric: in fact, this is internet and everything is kept forever :)14:49
kyakpieces of qi-hardware will float in google cache long after it will be gone14:50
viricyes, enough pieces to let you know "it was there, but it is lost"14:51
kyakwpwrak: that's a pity.. especially the lack of information (considering that it was about freedom when it all started)14:52
kyaklack of information is very opposite to freedom14:52
ysionneauwell indeed lack of information is really sad14:52
ysionneauanyone is free to change its interest and to do whatever he wants14:53
ysionneaubut to inform would be nice so that the situation is clear and people could organize / reorganize14:53
kyakthats true14:53
virictrust in people should be the last resort. :)14:54
wpwrakyeah, just "fading away" seems a bit uncharacteristic. don't know what happened. maybe too much exposure to chinese culture ? ("saying something would mean admitting failure. let's just not talk about it anymore.")14:55
viricthat algorithm between quotes reminds me of indians. :)14:56
viricdot indians, not feather indians.14:56
kyakthat might sound strange, but does anybody know if wolfgang is even fine? i mean, if i disappear one day, you wouldnt even know that im in fact very dead14:57
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed the word "Color" from the labels in the skin settings menu (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/dfa541314:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Remove "don't leave" feature (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/9c497e714:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Reduce use of HAVE_LIBOPK inside LinkApp class as well (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/ea85b1014:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Don't pass screen coordinates to drawScrollBar() (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/b18e3fa14:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Make GMenu2X::initBG() private (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/69b2b7914:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Made Surface argument to drawTopBar/drawBottomBar() mandatory (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/1ffae3614:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed PNG font (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/e4dd07014:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Crop 320x240 versions of topbar.png and bottombar.png to width 320 (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/13f91f914:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Added "bottomBarHeight" item to skin (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/19fc3cb14:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Added method GMenu2X::getContentArea() (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/91dd70814:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Fixed text area coordinates in TextDialog (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/666be4d14:58
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed checks for manuals and screenshots in JPEG and BMP format (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/8472acc14:58
viricwolfspraul: ^14:58
kyakoh.. i disabled joins/parts/quits - sorry :)14:58
mthanyway, the git server came back to life14:59
kyakwith many object-oriented commits --)15:00
mthnot so many this time; previous pushes had more refactoring in them15:01
mthalthough yesterday I nuked an abstract base class because it was adding more complexity than it was worth15:03
mthand it turned out that moving the base class's functionality into its two subclasses actually made the code shorter15:04
viricclass inheritance is evil15:04
viricpeople who built that functionality made it look as if there were many situations where to apply it15:05
mthI do prefer interface inheritance + composition in most cases, yes15:05
kyakobject-oriented programming makes me feel stupid -/15:06
virickyak: it is a trap15:08
viricit's like nodejs trap on callbacks. "It's all callbacks! Easy!"15:09
kyakprogramming is trap!15:10
viricyes, quite. :)15:12
viriclearn C, it's easy.15:12
viric(then you need to find an editor, a compiler, learn how to call it, how the OS will let you run programs, ...15:12
viric)15:12
kyaki did finish K&R recently btw15:12
viricbut C is easy15:12
virickyak: next, "The practice of programming" :)15:13
kyakviric: reading smart books without actually writing code is a waste of time anyway )15:13
viricor "The unix programming environment"15:13
kyakah yes, that one should be intetesting15:14
viricreading a book about programming feels close to programming though. :)15:14
kyaklooking at a girl feels close to having sex, right? -)15:17
ysionneauI don't wanna think about what you feel when looking at a dog then15:24
kyakthat conversation has gone wrong way )15:29
ysionneauindeed :)15:35

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