#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2012-12-05

wolfspraulwpwrak: after the server resetup (and upgrade to wheezy), there seems to be something strange in the right column schhist changelog...03:09
wolfsprauldo you have any ideas what it could be?03:10
wpwraklet's see ...03:31
wpwrakhmm. git getting chatty.03:32
wolfspraulmaybe coming from a newer version of git?03:41
wolfspraulI think they do keep changing the details of some command line options quite a bit still03:41
wolfspraulthe buildhost has now03:42
wpwrakdoes this help ? (completely untested)03:43
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: INV: add comment explaining what the fields mean (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/2334bd803:43
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: schhist/schhist2web: explicitly suppress diff in "git show" (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/9385ad003:43
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:eda-tools (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/afae5c703:43
wolfspraulok I just rerun everything...03:45
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: nanonote-files/.../compile-openwrt-xburst.sh: update URL to new server (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/113a6b703:46
wpwrakwolfspraul: btw, what do you think of my idea of a subscription model ? (at the end of my last post to the qi-hw list)03:49
wolfspraulhmm, not sure - I have no strong feelings for or against it04:01
wpwrakit would simplify things (that is, if it's accepted by enough people)04:03
wpwraki.e., you would have a predictable amount of money04:04
wpwrakand it would span more than one project. so you don't have to go pimping all the time04:04
wpwrakto start this, you could throw the bens you have left into the mix. they have a very low value while in storage but could still be attractive to get things rolling.04:05
wpwrake.g., if the subscription would be, say, USD 40/month (+shipping), there would be about USD 120 per quarter. the ben's nominal value exceeds this, so it's attractive to start with it04:06
wpwrakthe next quarter could be "ben accessories". e.g., the wpan stuff, ubb, and some surrounding things04:07
wpwrakthe goal would be to start with items we already have, so it's an opportunity to build up resources for more interesting work04:07
wpwrakalso, there should perhaps be one big project per year (that's more expensive than average) and the rest smaller, to built up resources for the big one04:09
wpwrakso, Q1 ben stock (you have it already), Q2 ben accessories (needs a bit of work), Q3 maybe the led toy (maybe 2-3 of them, one to play with, one to keep in case the first one gets lots, third for friends),04:10
wpwrakQ4 could be an fpgatools board. Q5 the ya.04:11
wpwraka quarterly frequency should be high enough to keep a decent rate of new and low enough to avoid chaos04:11
wpwrakin the long run, this would need either two overlapping teams (3 months per project is unrealistic), or community contributions04:12
wpwrakto get started, collect initial subscriptions via crowdfunding. two categories: 1) starts with ben and ben-accessories. 2) gets a voucher for starting later (with some small discount). each would pay for 2-4 quarters.04:14
wpwrakfrom my childhood, i remember the weelky magazine "Yps". they had some comics plus a "gimmick" in each issue. the gimmick was something "interesting", be it some cheap little plastic toy, some aridity-resistant scrub, a plastic bag you could use as a "zeppelin", (no so) precious stones (but pretty), and so on.04:18
wpwrakso that would be somewhat similar, just without the paper (which contained mainly not overly memorable comics), and targeted at a different age group04:20
wpwrakah, Q5 should be fpgatools with an fpga board :)04:21
wpwrakQ6 the ya. a bit far out, but it would be bad to have it too close to the bens of Q1.04:21
wpwrakah, sorry. i'm mis-repeating myself. Q4 = fpgatoos, Q5 = ya. one year after the ben.04:22
wolfspraulsorry have to run (schhist running from scratch, I'm still on that right now)04:24
wpwrakalright :)04:25
C-Keen_hey there!11:17
C-Keenwhat should I use as a ssh-agent on the nanonote?11:22
kristianpaulha is ten times bigger wge100 top hdl code than the j1 cpu it self11:49
kristianpaulit amaze me be if the only thing it create is routing headache..11:50
wolfspraulkristianpaul: don't understand what you mean...12:24
C-Keenis the NanoMap author still around in here?16:24
ArtyomHi lekernel! I want to ask you one question: Are you going to visit that "WHPSP"?19:23
ArtyomI've seen a small discussion about piksi here. The 16.368MHz sampling frequency is taken directly from datasheet on max2769. For GPS L1 C/A there is no need in such a high frequency. But they declare glonass and galileo support and signals of these systems in L1 band are wider then GPS C/A.19:37
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