| wolfspraul | wow the openmoko wiki has broken down under the spam | 08:35 |
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| wolfspraul | the entire wiki should be set to read-only asap | 08:35 |
| pabs3 | wolfspraul: have an example? looks ok to me | 08:41 |
| pabs3 | ah, RecentChanges :/ | 08:41 |
| wolfspraul | check RecentChanges | 08:41 |
| wolfspraul | looks like a fake account every few minutes, two new spam pages her hour or so | 08:42 |
| wolfspraul | and the heroic folks that kept pressing the delete buttons all these years seem gone :-) | 08:42 |
| wolfspraul | needs to be set to r/o asap | 08:42 |
| pabs3 | passed the message on to LaF0rge, will send a mail too | 08:43 |
| wolfspraul | poor Harald :-) that was not my intention :-) | 08:43 |
| wolfspraul | I would have set it to r/o a long time ago, just checking now since I keep cleaning the qi wiki but need to be careful there | 08:44 |
| pabs3 | afaik he is the only one with access to the servers, not sure if mediawiki or the openmoko wiki has admin users that can do that | 08:45 |
| roh | pabs3: i can surely give you access if you want to help | 08:46 |
| pabs3 | hmm. I volunteered for that a bunch of months ago but Harald wanted to clean up some private stuff before giving me access, don't think anything happened with that yet | 08:50 |
| roh | may be.. but for the wiki for example that should be no issue i guesss | 08:53 |
| pabs3 | maybe see what Harald says first | 08:54 |
| roh | he has enough on his plate and surely doesnt care if someone cleans up the wiki ;) | 08:57 |
| roh | i'll tell him next time i meet him | 08:57 |
| roh | whats your username in the wiki? | 08:57 |
| pabs3 | PaulWise | 08:57 |
| pabs3 | to be clear, I was volunteering for sysadmin stuff: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-May/067003.html | 08:59 |
| Action: pabs3 bbiab | 09:01 | |
| roh | aaha.. ok. | 09:01 |
| roh | i'll just give you some wiki priv's for now | 09:01 |
| roh | pabs3: gave you admin and buerocrat perms. | 09:04 |
| roh | so you can block spammers at least | 09:04 |
| wolfspraul | won't work as the bots create new accounts automatically | 09:08 |
| wolfspraul | even generously blocking ip ranges won't work since they probably sit on botnets or other variable ips | 09:09 |
| wolfspraul | the only thing that would work is to upgrade the captcha to the very latest-gen, or block all edits wiki-wide, or (haven't tried that yet) block the creation of new accounts | 09:10 |
| lindi- | wolfspraul: or require users to type their openmoko mac address :)) | 09:13 |
| pabs3 | yeah, for the Debian wiki, recaptcha worked well but some folks complained so we had to implement a bunch of other stuff | 09:21 |
| Action: pabs3 wonders if reverting to an older copy of the database with less spam would be best | 09:22 | |
| roh | i need to run... if there's nothing happening, holler me | 09:23 |
| Action: pabs3 gives up on blocking the spammers, they register as fast as I can block them | 10:27 | |
| pabs3 | huh, even getting upload spam: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:NewFiles | 10:42 |
| paul_boddie | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam has a few solutions for spam, although I've never had to configure MediaWiki for this kind of thing. | 12:17 |
| pabs3 | thanks | 12:31 |
| paul_boddie | I guess you're used to configuring MoinMoin for this kind of thing? | 12:32 |
| whitequark | this fucking country can't even make a decent electric stove | 14:12 |
| whitequark | the moment I turned it on, something inside died and it became perma-on and tripped the circuit breaker. | 14:12 |
| whitequark | fuck. | 14:12 |
| whitequark | I'm so glad I had that breaker in the first place. the previous flat I've rented did not. | 14:13 |
| roh | you live somewhere weird | 14:16 |
| whitequark | roh: russia | 14:20 |
| whitequark | I'm not terribly surprised that this happened, to be sincere. just annoyed. | 14:21 |
| whitequark | me: "it's big, heavy and there's some crap inside" friend: "that's called "done according to Soviet spirit!". indeed. | 14:28 |
| whitequark | now I face a choice of either: 1) calling a professional and paying >$300 upfront, which I don't have atm 2) calling a... state-funded technician, who'll probably be drunk and not very qualified. | 14:29 |
| whitequark | 3) fixing it myself, during which I'd probably injure myself with some really big, heavy and not properly fixed part of it. | 14:30 |
| Action: lekernel has had funny experiences attempting to fix soviet stuff | 14:53 | |
| paul_boddie | I once lived somewhere that had a Soviet fridge. | 15:03 |
| wpwrak | siberia ? | 15:13 |
| viric | did east germany have soviet fridges? | 15:16 |
| paul_boddie | A previous apartment in Norway. There was a fridge from a company called Elektra that said "Made in the U.S.S.R." on the back. | 15:36 |
| lekernel | as far as I can tell east germany manufactured a lot of stuff locally | 15:41 |
| viric | yes, I also heard so | 15:41 |
| viric | until the unification, where there was a conflict of interest between the east factories, and the lobbying west companies | 15:42 |
| viric | no? | 15:42 |
| lekernel | it seems a bunch of eastern companies went bankrupt as everyone wanted to buy western stuff instead | 15:43 |
| lekernel | former east germany is full of abandoned factories, which are sometimes nice to visit, but often vandalized heavily | 15:44 |
| paul_boddie | Wasn't there a famous East German motorcycle manufacturer that was able to survive post-reunification due to its cult reputation or am I mixing up stories? | 15:49 |
| lekernel | this one? http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090106-16577.html | 15:51 |
| paul_boddie | Probably. Oh well! | 15:52 |
| lekernel | east germany also has an impressive number of abandoned russian military barracks, which are nice places to see soviet propaganda (frescos, sculptures etc.) uncurated | 15:58 |
| lekernel | though (around Berlin at least) they are disappearing fast to make room for apartments | 15:58 |
| viric | lekernel: I watched recently 'Catastroika', and it explained the bankrupcies with a more 'planned' point of view | 15:58 |
| qi-bot | The build was successful: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.minimal-20121030-0832 | 17:14 |
| wpwrak | viric: sigh, the wikipedia article on their previous work "debtocracy" is sad. " The term is coined from the words "ÇÁ¿Â" (debt) and the Greek "ºÁ¬Ä¿Â" (power, -ocracy)". c'mon ... | 20:30 |
| wpwrak | then they give the examples "in a similar manner of other words regarding forms of government (such as democracy, aristocracy, theocracy etc.)." | 20:31 |
| lekernel | a lot of activist stuff those days is sad for similar reasons | 20:49 |
| viric | hm I'm not following | 20:55 |
| viric | what makes you feel sad? | 20:56 |
| viric | did you want a better naming? | 20:57 |
| viric | or you dislike how the wikipedia article worded that? | 20:57 |
| wpwrak | what makes me sad is that the authors of the article don't understand the structure of the language. there is no "-ocracy". it's "-cracy". the "o" comes from the first word, aristOs, demOs, theOs. | 21:03 |
| viric | Ah, the article then. ok | 21:04 |
| viric | fix it | 21:04 |
| viric | :) | 21:04 |
| wpwrak | phew :) | 21:04 |
| viric | that's sad too ;) | 21:05 |
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