| kyak | xiangfu: hi! what do you mean by "sound problems" in gmu? | 06:56 |
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| kyak | i tried with some ogg file, there are no problems whatsoever | 06:56 |
| xiangfu | kyak, I am use the buildhost image. it give me: | 09:08 |
| xiangfu | audio: Opening audio device... | 09:08 |
| xiangfu | audio: Could not open audio: Couldn't open gmu.bmp | 09:08 |
| xiangfu | fileplayer: Couldn't open audio: Couldn't open gmu.bmp | 09:08 |
| xiangfu | audio: Device not opened. Cannot set pause state | 09:08 |
| kyak | "Could not open audio: Couldn't open gmu.bmp" - makes no sense :) | 09:09 |
| kyak | i'll try the buildhost image.. currently had no problem with my own (which is not different at all, just couple of packages thrown out) | 09:10 |
| xiangfu | kyak, do you think it 's SDL sound problem? | 09:33 |
| kyak | well, you mentioned some problems with mplayer.. so i'm not sure | 09:44 |
| kyak | oh, sorry | 09:45 |
| kyak | you said gmu/alex4/supertux have sound problem | 09:45 |
| kyak | i'll try that later.. | 09:47 |
| kyak | i started gmu from command line, not from gmenu2x if that matters | 09:48 |
| xiangfu | I also try gmu from command. | 09:51 |
| xiangfu | kyak, what is the output of alsamixer -Vall? | 09:51 |
| xiangfu | I have 2 'Master' , no 'PCM' | 09:51 |
| wej | it does sound very much like an SDL problem. this "Couldn't open gmu.bmp" is an SDL error message (which indeed does not make any sense) | 09:59 |
| wej | it could be as simple as just a wrong value of an SDL environment variable. | 10:00 |
| kyak | xiangfu: sorry, my Nanonote is left at home, i will tell in several hours | 10:45 |
| kyak | xiangfu: do you have any problems with other sdl apps, like nightsky? | 10:46 |
| xiangfu | kyak, no | 10:48 |
| xiangfu | nightsky works fne | 10:48 |
| kyak | damn, at least someone has sdw-823 working :) | 11:07 |
| kyak | i had no success trying to make it work, despite of the fact that i had tried two such cards | 11:08 |
| kyak | maybe i'll give it another try.. | 11:09 |
| kyak | or even better, package atusb kernel module for my laptop, which i wanted to do long ago and throw sdw-823 away | 11:10 |
| hellekin | is Broadcom feeling the heat of competition? http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221 | 12:43 |
| viric | sounds like great news | 12:52 |
| viric | we'd have to see if this is more than marketing | 12:52 |
| xiangfu | kyak: the problem is the buildhost package 'libsdl_1.2.14-2_xburst.ipk'. | 13:58 |
| xiangfu | kyak, I just remove the dl/SDL-xxx file. and compile it again. seems it works fine now. let's wait the final image. :) | 14:16 |
| mth | hellekin, viric: it's not as big news as the announcement makes it sound, since the GL implementation runs on the GPU | 15:25 |
| mth | what they released is ARM code to do remote procedure calls into that GL implementation | 15:25 |
| hellekin | thank you for the clarification mth | 15:26 |
| mth | check the comments by Luc Verhaegen | 15:26 |
| mth | it's a good thing they did release that code, but it's only a small step in terms on openness | 15:26 |
| hellekin | on another topic, wpwrak do you remember the discussion we had in Porto Alegre regarding possible strategies for Qi, and especially Software Defined Radio? | 15:27 |
| mth | s/on/of | 15:27 |
| hellekin | I'd like to discuss that more, because I'm working on a plan to massively deploy SDR in latin america, with the help of DRM and FNF | 15:27 |
| mth | meh, it doesn't just replace words... | 15:28 |
| hellekin | yeah, given your regex, it should have replaced only only->ofly ;o) | 15:29 |
| hellekin | s/ly\b/lo | 15:30 |
| hellekin | fail :) | 15:30 |
| qi-bot | The build was successful: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121024-1609 | 15:53 |
| whitequark | mth: it's nothing at all in terms of openness | 16:15 |
| whitequark | that stuff was basically R/E'd already | 16:15 |
| whitequark | it's just no one needed it that much to write a EGL shim on top | 16:16 |
| hellekin | whitequark: openness? Do you mean freedom? When my mouth is open, flies are free to enter it. | 16:35 |
| wpwrak | (broadcom) still nice :) | 16:45 |
| wpwrak | hellekin: yeah, i roughly remember. i think the main issue is to a) find a viable use case and b) finance the deployment. you may also need to find someone to provide the fixed infrastructure. | 16:47 |
| wpwrak | hellekin: SDR would be a technical choice, not a feature that you use as a differentiator for selling the system, wouldn't it ? | 16:48 |
| hellekin | wpwrak: if the deal is to deploy thousands of SDR devices for bridging the digital divide, and have that devices made in Brazil, I think both (a) and (b) can be covered. You're in Buenos Aires, right? | 17:03 |
| hellekin | I need you to meet Thiago from the Digital Radio Mundial... I can't talk about the general strategy on IRC, but I can invite you to come for dinner at our place and discuss it. Then you can decide whether you want to participate... | 17:05 |
| hellekin | Honestly, I think we are on a solid track :) | 17:05 |
| viric | From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org> | 18:12 |
| viric | Well, they are lying to everyone. | 18:13 |
| viric | > Well, they are lying to everyone. | 18:13 |
| viric | > Their "open source" is nothing but a layer of code which calls into a | 18:13 |
| viric | > closed source back-end. | 18:13 |
| viric | mth: alles klar | 18:17 |
| wpwrak | hellekin: yes, i'm in BUE. sure, we can discuss it, crazy idea or not ;-) | 18:49 |
| hellekin | crazy enough to work :) | 18:50 |
| wpwrak | viric: lovely. i think we need a new word that combines "open", "closed", and "fraud". maybe "bastard" ? | 18:50 |
| hellekin | wpwrak: open source | 18:51 |
| wpwrak | hellekin: and i'm glad the "DRM" you mentioned isn't the evil one ;-) | 18:51 |
| hellekin | abierto como un culo | 18:51 |
| hellekin | sure ;o) | 18:51 |
| wpwrak | ;-) | 18:52 |
| hellekin | we need to reappropriate not only hardware, but also acronyms. :) | 18:52 |
| wpwrak | let's hope it isn't just s??t that comes out ;-) | 18:52 |
| mth | wpwrak: openwashing? (similar to greenwashing) | 18:52 |
| hellekin | mth +! | 18:52 |
| hellekin | +1 | 18:52 |
| wpwrak | mth: i think that's already in taken | 18:52 |
| wpwrak | s/in / | 18:53 |
| hellekin | s/th/p | 18:53 |
| hellekin | ah doesn't work on others posts :) | 18:54 |
| hellekin | s/th/p | 18:54 |
| hellekin | hehehe | 18:54 |
| Action: hellekin end of pause | 18:54 | |
| wpwrak | "i pink pat's already taken" ? that's an odd one. is it from the cybernetic lyrics department ? | 18:55 |
| hellekin | cyphernetics pyrics department | 18:55 |
| wpwrak | funny, when you google for "pyrics", nothing immediately identifiable as fire-related shows up | 18:59 |
| hellekin | yeah, Greek is missing from Google Search algorithms | 19:01 |
| wpwrak | hellekin: anyway, when do you propose to meet ? | 19:01 |
| wpwrak | i kinda doubt any language spoken within a few astronomical units from google HQ is missing in their algorithms :) they may just not think it likely that someone from .ar would be interested in results for .gr | 19:02 |
| larsc | yea, I'm always astonished how different the search results are depending on which google.tld you use | 19:07 |
| wpwrak | or where you are ... | 19:07 |
| larsc | that's not so bad if you search for generic things | 19:10 |
| larsc | if you search for barbershop you'd probably get something close to you | 19:10 |
| hellekin | wpwrak: whenever you want, we're all living under the same roof ;o) | 19:11 |
| wpwrak | (barbershop) hmm, i guuess youre right, technically: www.imdb.com/title/tt0303714/ | 19:11 |
| wpwrak | hellekin: how does friday sound ? | 19:12 |
| hellekin | s | 19:15 |
| hellekin | wpwrak: perfect. What time? Are you free during the day or do you want to have dinner? | 19:15 |
| wpwrak | i'm free the whole day | 19:17 |
| hellekin | ok, then we can have lunch and enjoy the Sun :) | 19:18 |
| hellekin | or whatever you like | 19:19 |
| wpwrak | sounds good to me | 19:19 |
| wpwrak | friday should indeed be sunny :) | 19:20 |
| pcercuei | guys | 20:12 |
| pcercuei | is the data copied when calling realloc() ? | 20:13 |
| pcercuei | or is there some mmap-fu being applied? | 20:13 |
| larsc | depends | 20:18 |
| larsc | it's basically up to the implementation how it does it | 20:19 |
| pcercuei | ok. | 20:19 |
| pcercuei | then I believe I should avoid it if possible | 20:19 |
| larsc | if there is enough space to hold the extra data the allocater will just extend the region | 20:20 |
| larsc | otherwise it will allocate a new region which is large enough | 20:20 |
| larsc | and do a memcpy | 20:20 |
| pcercuei | ok | 20:29 |
| viric | realloc is quite comfortable | 20:30 |
| viric | I like to use it | 20:30 |
| whitequark | hellekin: well, OSS and FOSS are different things. | 20:41 |
| whitequark | some people I know do not consider BSD-style licenses to be "truly free" | 20:41 |
| whitequark | I, in fact, do not consider GPL-style license to be "truly free". it's a weapon in fact, and quite a powerful one. | 20:42 |
| whitequark | wpwrak: "broadcom" and "nice" in same sentence? were you replaced by a corporate agent? | 20:44 |
| wpwrak | whitequark: well, i give them the benefit of the doubt. that one seems to be a shady deal, though | 21:01 |
| whitequark | wpwrak: there was no single instance when broadcom willfully released something good | 21:02 |
| whitequark | I believe they opened the bcm4312 wifi driver some time ago, after years of struggle, and it wasn't particularly good | 21:02 |
| wpwrak | bad but open code can be replaced with good code | 21:04 |
| wpwrak | bad closed code will always stay bad | 21:04 |
| hellekin | whitequark: that is open source https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2012/10/22/help-us-test-the-social-api-with-facebook-messenger-for-firefox/ | 21:17 |
| whitequark | hellekin: oh, talking about firefox... I don't understand what do they like so much in the bazaar development model. | 21:54 |
| whitequark | the fact that bugs which bother lots of people can be opened for 12 years? | 21:54 |
| whitequark | objective #0 for a programmer is to produce good software. being an open source project often helps. if objective #0 is not fulfilled, then there is no value in allowing as much people to participate as you want or whatever. | 21:56 |
| pcercuei | it's like objective #1, but for computer guys? ;) | 22:02 |
| hellekin | pcercuei: lol ; whitequark true, and that model allows marketers to take over and deal with evil corporations like facebook instead of promoting freedom. It's ugly what they're doing | 23:05 |
| hellekin | gotta run... ttyl | 23:06 |
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