| DocScrutinizer05 | so, how does "qualcomm" (http://maps.google.de/maps?oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=qualcomm&fb=1&gl=de&hq=qualcomm&hnear=0x479f57aeb5b61cd3:0xdd5daf85a98c21b7,N%C3%BCrnberg&cid=0,0,7383782245350231276&sa=X&ei=tI9SUIrZMMel4gSvtIE4&ved=0CJ8CEPwSMAA) sound to you, for my new job? | 02:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wpwrak: how's your hayfever? | 02:04 |
| wolfspraul | DocScrutinizer05: you work for qualcomm now? | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe next one, yes | 02:22 |
| wolfspraul | nice! | 02:22 |
| wolfspraul | hope this works out for you | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I ask ;-) | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure I like qualcomm | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otoh who says you need to like your job, or even your employer** | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (** double deref) | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | funny detail: it's so close to STE http://maps.google.de/maps?num=30&hl=de&newwindow=1&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=st-ericsson&fb=1&gl=de&hq=st-ericsson&hnear=0x479f57aeb5b61cd3:0xdd5daf85a98c21b7,N%C3%BCrnberg&cid=0,0,7050262622794191287&sa=X&ei=uZVSUK-aHqvZ4QSynICgAQ&ved=0CLkCEPwSMAM that I probably will meet my ex-colleagues in restaurant during lunch | 02:26 |
| wolfspraul | I agree that you don't need to like your job or employer, but... at the very least there does need to be cultural 'compatibility', whatever that means :-) | 02:28 |
| wolfspraul | if the company culture is a bunch of assholes raping the world, then you better have that same culture, and you will do well. equally for any other culture. | 02:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually that's another reason i'm not entirely happy with the perspective: there are realy few shops and restaurants in this whole area | 02:28 |
| wolfspraul | I don't know the qualcomm company culture, but culture compatibility is something you should check, for everybodys happiness... | 02:29 |
| wolfspraul | the few qc people I met were all very professional and serious, I liked them | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui my potentially new job would be more hw-centric :-D | 02:30 |
| wolfspraul | qc has also recently been restructuring their open source efforts | 02:30 |
| wolfspraul | don't know the thinking behind that though | 02:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, they have a thing like opens source efforts? | 02:31 |
| wolfspraul | definitely, and they are restructuring it | 02:31 |
| wolfspraul | I *guess* they want to separate a little better from their IP businesses so that they can protect that IP better, and at the same time can invest in anything 'open' better | 02:32 |
| wolfspraul | but you need to talk with them, maybe you are soon one of them :-) | 02:32 |
| wolfspraul | then you can explain to us! | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for the tips! | 02:35 |
| wolfspraul | gotta run too | 02:37 |
| wolfspraul | how can you be up at 4.30 btw? :-) | 02:37 |
| wolfspraul | k l8... | 02:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still vacant | 02:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my pimp threated me to call yesterday, to tell me about possible meeting at qualcomm on monday, but he didn't | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | threatened? | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 02:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so otoh he "forced" me to take my remaining holiday for this year, which ends today | 02:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather, yeaterday | 02:40 |
| wpwrak | qualcomm ? heart of evil ? :) | 03:28 |
| wpwrak | (at the company level no idea how the people are) | 03:29 |
| wpwrak | (open effort) now that sounds like a departure from the past. if it's true, maybe they won't be that bad. | 03:30 |
| wpwrak | grmbl. go out and protest for a few hours in spring, sneeze bucketfulls the rest of the night :-( at least this time we were a lot. no complaint there :) | 08:33 |
| whitequark | wpwrak: sounds like the atheros acquisition wasn't that bad | 10:00 |
| mth | larsc: the current battery driver will use a negative (error code) voltage value in some cases | 14:59 |
| mth | http://www.treewalker.org/temp/voltage-check.diff | 14:59 |
| mth | this diff is for the 4770 driver, but that's almost an exact copy of the 4740 driver | 14:59 |
| mth | currently anyway: it doesn't work yet, so I'll probably have to add some more differences | 14:59 |
| larsc | mth: my plan is to add a IIO ADC driver for the jz4740 ADC and then eventually switch to the generic IIO battery driver (which currently is in development). | 15:28 |
| larsc | a sane strategy would probably to do the same for the jz4770 | 15:29 |
| kyak | the most dangerous command is "uptime". as soon as i run it, it doesn't take long till something happens to my server | 15:31 |
| larsc | why does svn suck so much? Just found out that you can't set global ignores, but rather have to specify them for each directory... | 16:09 |
| viric | larsc: svn works by directory :) | 16:58 |
| larsc | hm, that might be a point | 17:09 |
| larsc | but I still don't like it | 17:09 |
| Ayla | larsc: ping | 17:12 |
| Ayla | did you remember about the INI library? :) | 17:13 |
| larsc | no | 17:13 |
| larsc | but I'm still at work | 17:13 |
| viric | [<bf2004f4>] (btrfs_num_copies+0xe8/0xf4 [btrfs]) from [<bf1bd89c>] | 17:14 |
| viric | what is 0xe8 and 0xf4? | 17:14 |
| viric | one should be the offset since the function entry point | 17:15 |
| larsc | the other is the size of the function | 17:18 |
| larsc | Ayla: So far I could find out that the header file is called ini.h | 17:19 |
| viric | ah 0xf4 is the size? nice. | 17:19 |
| viric | thank you | 17:19 |
| larsc | Ayla: but that's all I can find for the moment | 17:22 |
| Ayla | OK | 17:22 |
| larsc | more on monday. the person that's using it isn't in the office right now | 17:27 |
| Ayla | I won't wait that long ;) | 17:56 |
| larsc | mth: Can I mention to sjhill that you are working on jz4770 support? | 18:04 |
| sjhill | hmm | 18:13 |
| larsc | hi sjhill | 18:13 |
| sjhill | larsc -> Lars-Peter Clausen | 18:13 |
| sjhill | hi | 18:13 |
| larsc | yes | 18:13 |
| sjhill | mth -> Maarten ter Huurne | 18:13 |
| larsc | yes | 18:13 |
| sjhill | and.... | 18:13 |
| sjhill | i have not idea where Thierry and Antony are | 18:14 |
| larsc | thierry acutally has nothing to do with jz47xx, he just brought over the pwm driver to the generic pwm framework since he is the pwm maintainer | 18:14 |
| sjhill | ah | 18:14 |
| sjhill | so i won't include him on future emails | 18:14 |
| larsc | and to be honest i don't know who Antony is | 18:14 |
| sjhill | lol | 18:15 |
| Ayla | you're doing a PWM driver for jz4770? | 18:15 |
| larsc | no | 18:15 |
| larsc | sjhill: is working on jz4760 support | 18:16 |
| Ayla | ah. | 18:16 |
| sjhill | larsc: how did you get a lepus board? | 18:18 |
| larsc | was a bit of a coincidence, I did a bit of contract work for somebody who wanted to sell a jz4760 based board | 18:20 |
| sjhill | i'll have to talk to my colleagues at MIPS and email my one contact at Ingenic | 18:21 |
| sjhill | maybe i'll get lucky | 18:21 |
| sjhill | bbiab....lunch | 18:21 |
| viric | mh what's that kernel config option, to have a populated /dev mounted before running init? | 20:22 |
| viric | (when rootfs doesn't have it) | 20:22 |
| sjhill | viric: what version kernel? | 20:57 |
| viric | I looked for it in 3.5.3 | 20:58 |
| viric | I recall it's about DEVFS something | 20:58 |
| viric | but F8 in nconfig does not show me any DEVFS thing | 20:58 |
| larsc | DEVTMPFS | 21:00 |
| viric | ahh | 21:00 |
| viric | damn. It's inside device drivers, not filesystems. | 21:01 |
| viric | thx larsc | 21:01 |
| rjeffries | Since several people use KiCad -- http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/09/14/dangerous-prototypes-kicad-eda-experience/ | 21:04 |
| viric | I hate when I fail to get 'init' running. | 21:12 |
| viric | VFS: Mounted root (btrfs filesystem) readonly on device 0:11. | 21:12 |
| viric | devtmpfs: mounted | 21:12 |
| viric | Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000004 | 21:12 |
| viric | (it's a statically linked 'sh', init) | 21:13 |
| viric | signal 4... SIGILL... illegal instruction. damn. | 21:13 |
| mth | hi sjhill | 22:38 |
| mth | sjhill: this is the JZ4770 device that Ayla and I are working on: http://game-consoles-worldwide.com/?page_id=15 | 22:40 |
| mth | larsc: Antony is doing an OpenDingux port for the Ritmix (Russian) game console (JZ4755) | 22:42 |
| mth | sjhill: Ayla has done a fair bit of kernel for for the 4740 as well, for example the watchdog driver was written by him | 22:44 |
| mth | s/kernel for/kernel work/ | 22:44 |
| sjhill | mth: cool | 22:58 |
| sjhill | So, who's going to send me one of those game consoles? :) | 22:59 |
| sjhill | $120US | 23:00 |
| sjhill | I'll buy one, if there are any left. | 23:01 |
| Ayla | there are | 23:01 |
| Ayla | if you're up to do some kernel work, you could ask for a prototype | 23:01 |
| sjhill | Sure. | 23:05 |
| sjhill | Who do I ask for a prototype? | 23:05 |
| wpwrak | hmm. i have small and fixed number of variables. from these, i want to determine the median value. i could sort the variables and pick the value in the middle, but that's quite inefficient. a more efficient approach is to directly search for the median value. | 23:45 |
| wpwrak | i've solved this manually for three variables. doing it for five smells like messy work. i wonder if there's an algorithm for this somewhere ? | 23:46 |
| wpwrak | this is a solution for three variables: http://pastebin.ca/2204355 | 23:47 |
| mth | is five enough or is that just the next step up from three? | 23:51 |
| wpwrak | it's fun to google for this. there's a thread in a vb basic forum. proves that vb basic is for people who still have a lot to learn ;-) | 23:51 |
| wpwrak | what the fortran folks do looks more interesting ... http://compgroups.net/comp.lang.fortran/find-the-median-value-of-an-array/326962 | 23:52 |
| wpwrak | not sure yet. i very much hope it'll be enough. it has to run in a poor little microcontroller crawling at less than one MIPS | 23:53 |
| mth | the number of values is smaller than the range of the values? | 23:53 |
| wpwrak | yes, the range is much larger | 23:55 |
| mth | what you can do, is a limited type of quicksort | 23:57 |
| mth | every quicksort iteration separates the array into a segment where all elements are smaller than X, a segment where all elements are equal to X and a segment where all elements are greater than X | 23:58 |
| wpwrak | hmm, this seems to be the place for the algorithms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_algorithm | 23:58 |
| wpwrak | quicksort is way too expensive | 23:58 |
| mth | if the "equals" segment is in the middle, you're done, otherwise continue to work on the largest remaining segment (the one that contains the middle element) | 23:59 |
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