#qi-hardware IRC log for Friday, 2012-08-24

wpwrak... and a bit of sandpaper takes care of those imperfections :)01:38
wpwrak(the joy of MDF. with acrylic, this will be harder. literally.)01:39
wpwrakgrmbl. kicad now saves non-plated through-holes in a separate drill file (<name>-NPTH.drl) no surprise my pcbs ended up not having them ...01:59
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: cameo/templates/mkmk-simple: also look for new <name>-NPTH.drl (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/e24612702:03
LunaVoraxhi!12:25
viricuf quina calor19:45
kristianpauldamn, feels so incapable not having a way to powerup stuff and just wait eternally electrical company to arrive..21:09
viricif you are on irc, you had a way to power up stuff21:15
kristianpauli meant provide powerup as provide electrical energy to my computer(s)21:26
viricI don't understand much. You speak as if you couldn't power any computer.21:29
viric:)21:29
kristianpaulyup thats it :)21:29
kristianpaulwas*21:29
viricwhile you use some computer though21:29
kristianpaulahh sorry21:29
kristianpauli meant until now21:30
viricahhh21:30
kristianpauli just was trying to make a point around electricity outage..21:31
viricok21:31
virickristianpaul: you were in Colombia, right?21:31
kristianpauli'm yes21:31
viricok21:31
kristianpaulthis never happen to me in 11years..21:32
viricwhat happened'21:32
viric?21:32
kristianpaulafaik solar still kinda expensive and not the resolve all problems21:32
kristianpaulviric: it seems was just a fuse21:32
kristianpaulbut i have to call the electric company and wait.. and wait.. :-)21:33
wpwrakone power failure in 11 years and you're complaining ? :)21:33
kristianpaulyes ;)21:34
kristianpaulwell, they were other but never waited so long21:35
wpwrakhow long ?21:35
kristianpaul16hrs..21:35
kristianpaulwpwrak: do you have alternative electricity power sources in your home?21:35
wpwrakokay, 16 h is kinda long. only had a cut of some 12 hours so far. not that there hadn't been worse in the area.21:36
wpwrakjust a UPS21:36
wpwraktakes the sting out of those brownouts21:36
kristianpaulyeah, that remenber i need ti buy a new battery ...21:37
kristianpaulto*21:37
viricdo you live in cities?21:52
kristianpaulyep21:54
wpwrakviric: <aol>me too</aol>22:36
viricok :)22:36
wpwrakif i was living in the countryside, i'd probably be happy to have no electricity. there's been heavy rain in the last week or so and some 1700 people had to be evacuated. hundreds are still waiting to be able to return to their homes, or what's left of them.22:38
wpwrakluckily, we don't have such problems in the city. particularly not after a major drain channel was opened earlier this year. it's being put to very good use these days.22:39
viricaha22:41
DocScrutinizer05wpwrak: how's connectivity during brownouts?22:42
DocScrutinizer05or even outages22:42
wpwrakif power goes down in the building, so does internet access (over catv)22:43
wpwrakbrownouts tend to go unnoticed, though22:43
DocScrutinizer05those were the times when your phone still worked when no light til horizon (even with ISDN)22:44
DocScrutinizer05nowadays odds are your GSM phone works on blackouts, while landline goes down even with electricity all fine ;-)22:46
wpwrakthe building can also suffer a partial failure (there are two inbound lines). the terminal equipment for the network is on the other line. so there's a small probability for internet access failing (along with elevators, water pumps, etc.), while i still have electricity in all my apartment22:46
wpwraklandline is obsolete anyway ;-)22:46
DocScrutinizer05anyway now I can kill/restart the infobot for good, as long as the DSL line and server are still ok.22:47
wpwrak;-)22:48
DocScrutinizer05friggin thing suffers from not noticing offline state due to netsplits etc. So recently it been more offline than online22:48
DocScrutinizer05and each time I had to *mail* Tim to pretty please give it a kick22:49
DocScrutinizer05perl anybody?22:49
DocScrutinizer05bot's scheduler written in perl, needs some love22:49
wpwrakdoesn't sound like a very robust design22:49
DocScrutinizer05interfacing a truly autonomous bot to freenode's servers isn't exactly trivial. Esp since "moving target"22:50
DocScrutinizer05there were times where bot had to throttle chan joining to max 1 / 10s, otherwise some watchdog in freenode goes mad. Not anymore. But every other week something new to cope with22:52
DocScrutinizer05~+chaninfo22:53
infobot124/124 channels, 4912 users, 3518 unique: #debian/1159, #kde/363, #maemo/271, #gsoc/231, #meego/197, #harmattan/180, #asterisk/172, #wowuidev/152, #oe/143, #wowace/116, #webos-internals/111, #wowhead/100, #openmoko/85, #arm-netbook/82, #utah/75, #bzflag/67, #n9/66, #uclibc/66, #openmoko-cdevel/65, #tomcat/56, #edev/54, #qi-hardware/52, #htc-linux/51, #maemo-ssu/51, #curseforge/49, #sc2mapster/47, #asterisk-dev/41, #elinux/41, #uphpu/40, ...22:53
wpwrakseems like a very reasonable rate limit to me22:54
Ayla1107 more and we reach #debian!22:55
DocScrutinizer05actually it's not, every stupid irc client will join faster, when you got some 50 chan on autojoin22:55
DocScrutinizer05since ircd7 the bot never gained stability level it had before22:57
DocScrutinizer05~+uptime22:58
infobot- Uptime for infobot -22:58
infobotNow: 35m 48s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux22:58
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201022:58
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200922:58
infobot3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200922:58
DocScrutinizer05btw did I mention I resign at STE?23:02
kristianpaulnope..23:02
wpwrakyou hinted at a future change. why did you leave ? and what's next ?23:19
DocScrutinizer05I'm leaving since STE has not the job I hoped for, opening up opportunities for new stuff to come23:21
DocScrutinizer05I could say I'm leaving since my alergy against winXP wasn't manageable, but that was only half of the truth23:22
wpwrakbut at least it was half of it ;-)23:22
DocScrutinizer05yep, if I would have managed to get that linux account (and tasks to do there) earlier, or at all, maybe things were different23:23
DocScrutinizer05well, maybe 9 month is just the maximum time span you could manage mail in outlook, before it starts to become a total mess23:25
wpwraka mail system with an expiration date. very nice ;-)23:25
DocScrutinizer05no hard expiration date, just the point where chaos tips over23:26
wpwrakfew expiration dates are "hard". or do you believe your yoghurt suddenly goes from perfect to inedible when the clock strikes midnight ? :)23:28
DocScrutinizer05basically way too much 'paperwork' and way too little fun with hardware23:28
wpwraksounds like the joy of big companies23:30
DocScrutinizer05exactly23:30
kristianpaulhey adam :)23:37
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