#qi-hardware IRC log for Monday, 2012-07-30

wpwraklarsc: (talk) should be recorded, yes. it went well, but since it was on friday in the latest slot (19 o'clock), the number of people was pretty low. estimates range from 15-30. the room would have had space for maybe 500.00:25
wpwrakwell, in the end, it's the quality that counts, not the quantity :)00:26
wpwrakkristianpaul: (cap notation) for RF caps ? or do you mean other "special" caps ? so far, /RF is the only "odd" thing i have. and "/RF" really was the only reasonably general qualifier i could come up with.00:27
wolfspraulyes sure I am 'tracking', all a matter of definition :-)00:32
wolfspraulmaybe 'interested' would be a better word00:32
wpwrakheh :) well, with kicad's development speed, there usually isn't a great hurry00:32
wpwraki just occasionally peek into the list. mainly when i'm about to make some sort of statement about kicad and need to be sure it's still true :)00:33
kristianpaulyes only RF wpwrak 00:41
kristianpaulwpwrak: about talk, now that you sid low people, they were involve in hw some how? 00:46
kristianpaulwpwrak: but then this RF worth the label because it will influence in the bom generation when generating shopping list?00:47
wpwrakprobably most are, yes. e.g., i also had maddog who is planning to make custom hardware for his "computerized housing" project00:47
wpwrak(rf) boom would have an "RF" tag that corresponds to it, yes00:48
wpwrak(rf) i hate how vague all this is, but that's the sort of information i could gather00:48
kristianpaulyeah sure at least is a tag00:49
kristianpaulcomputerized housing?00:49
wpwrakif you need more specific characteristics, you'd have to specify the part number00:49
wpwrak(housing) put central servers into buildings and connect all apartments to them. put "thin clients" into the apartments. make maintenance of the servers a service.00:50
kristianpaulah again?!00:50
kristianpauli tought he was parner with intel..00:50
wpwrakhe's been at this for a while, yes :) (no idea about intel)00:50
kristianpaulyeah, i remenber project cauca and super speed wifi powered thin clients00:51
kristianpaulbut interesting he concern about custom 00:51
wpwrakhe plan seems to be getting closer to viability. e.g., he's moving the financial burden from (bank/state) credits to building construction projects. where it would be a comparably trivial item.00:51
wpwrakyes, that one00:52
wpwraks/he plan/his plan00:52
wpwrakand he's moving the servers out of the buildings, into centers. also makes the thing more scalable and cheaper00:52
wpwrakso it all sounds a lot less crazy now than it did just a couple of years ago00:53
kristianpaulyeah i remenber..00:53
wpwrakhellekin: was good talking to you, too :) regarding sdr, this is the commercially available low-cost SDR chip i mentioned: http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr14:09
wpwrakhellekin: when you talk to CEITEC, making a TX/RX chip with similar characteristics may be something worth mentioning. i'm sure it would be hotly welcomed not only in the Free sw/hw/whatever world, but also by academia.14:11
wpwrakhellekin: of course, whether they can even do something with such an idea would also be a question of how much R&D they can do themselves. maybe they just have manufacturing capabilities, in which case setting up such a project would be much harder.14:12
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: Makefile: also run make for components/, since we now have gencon.lib (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/a39861b15:00
wpwrakwhee ! survived a major ubuntu upgrade19:36
viricThat's the attitude.19:48
larscmy demo system did not. well at least not completely19:59
larscthe desktop background is gone20:00
larscand my session startup scripts don't run anymore20:00
viricthat's the fate of the dice roll20:06
larschm, it smells of smoke, I hope the house it not on fire20:08
larscnow there are firetruck sirens, but they seem to be passing by20:19
viricyou start reminding me of IT Crowd20:19
wpwraklarsc: hmm, seems that xpdf took a hit ...20:20
wpwraklarsc: (fire trucks passing) maybe they got your address wrong ?20:20
viricwhen, with fire in the room, emails the firemen service "FIRE!!! FIRE!!! FIRE!!!"20:20
larscwpwrak: the house next door already burned down a few months ago20:21
wpwraklarsc: have much gangfighting at night, too ? :)20:24
larscnot that I'm aware of20:25
larscwould be great if the fire department had a rss feed on their homepage where post incidents when they are reported20:31
viriccheck their twitter account20:31
Aylato check if it's your home that's burning without moving your ass from your chair? :)20:32
larscI actually tried, they don't have one20:32
viriclarsc: ask some elder neighbour. They know everything.20:32
larscAyla: would make me more comfortable knowing that is a neighboring house and not the one I live in20:33
Action: wpwrak hates quantum entanglement. two different circuits, let's call them A and B, using the same mcu. both fail in a very similar way. in one (A), an improperly soldered resistor is (eventually) found to be the cause. after fixing it, A works. and through spooky action at a distance, also B suddenly starts to work.22:41
mthwpwrak: that's super convenient: instead of doing a recall of faulty devices, you just keep one unit at the factory and repair that one if needed :)22:48
wpwrakhmm. that does indeed sound useful. lemme call my patent lawyer :)22:50
Action: wpwrak wonders how many people one could screw with such a nonsense patent if expressed in sufficiently vague terms. after all, quantum effects are at the root of everything ...22:51
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