| kristianpaul | wow sysmocon is going to manufacturing ! | 01:23 |
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| kristianpaul | custom phone boards * :-) | 01:24 |
| kristianpaul | s/phone/modem | 01:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: update nanonote compile-openwrt-xburst.sh (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/6f13dd1 | 02:52 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: MPlayer: disable pulse (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b61e78d | 02:52 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: xburst: ben nanonote: add modifire keys and fbcon-color patches (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/6ce0667 | 03:32 |
| kristianpaul | i'm bit lost, how you add a patch description in git | 03:53 |
| kristianpaul | when using git send-email or git format-patch ? | 03:53 |
| xiangfu | kristianpaul, when git commit | 03:58 |
| kristianpaul | ahh | 03:58 |
| kristianpaul | i did but is just 1 line short.. as it should be i guess | 03:59 |
| xiangfu | kristianpaul, you can modify it by 'git command --amend' or when using 'git send-email --annotate' | 04:00 |
| xiangfu | 'git commit --amend' | 04:00 |
| xiangfu | kristianpaul, if you don't use '-m' when commit. git will bring you a text edit for patch description. | 04:02 |
| kristianpaul | yeah.. but i just wrote a line | 04:03 |
| kristianpaul | oops | 04:06 |
| kristianpaul | double mail.. | 04:06 |
| kristianpaul | well | 04:06 |
| kristianpaul | n8 | 04:07 |
| xiangfu | good night | 04:10 |
| whitequark | xiangfu: git commit --amen | 08:59 |
| viric | 'amen' :) | 09:11 |
| larsc | patch and pray ;) | 09:12 |
| viric | hehe | 09:13 |
| whitequark | plug and pray | 09:18 |
| Necrosporus | I found out NanoNote get 1.5 times more expensive, why? | 10:07 |
| xiangfu | Necrosporus, checkout : http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2012-June/009693.html | 10:38 |
| Necrosporus | xiangfu, there's only written they are increasing price, but is not written why | 11:00 |
| wolfspraul | Necrosporus: which price are you asking about? | 11:48 |
| xiangfu | "<Necrosporus> I found out NanoNote get 1.5 times more expensive, why?" | 11:50 |
| Necrosporus | 149 bucks instead of 99 | 11:53 |
| wolfspraul | because that's a better price for the future and the best price we know how to build a beautiful little machine like that | 11:54 |
| wolfspraul | you bought one at the old price? or were thinking about getting one? | 11:54 |
| Necrosporus | wolfspraul, yes, I were, but low hardware specs was somehow adding doubts | 13:43 |
| Necrosporus | Were there a 1GiB of RAM and 1 GHz dual core processor, I'd though 150 bucks is fine | 13:45 |
| Necrosporus | Or better 2 GiB of ram | 13:46 |
| wolfspraul | so we helped remove your doubts now, good :-) | 13:46 |
| wolfspraul | I don't think you would appreciate the Ben and you will probably find something good elsewhere. | 13:47 |
| wolfspraul | the Ben can't be for everyone... | 13:47 |
| Necrosporus | wolfspraul, I'd ready to pay about $50-75 for that capabilities | 13:48 |
| Necrosporus | Including shipping | 13:48 |
| wolfspraul | won't happen here | 13:49 |
| wolfspraul | maybe the next NanoNote will even be 199, I don't know | 13:49 |
| wolfspraul | first of all it must be really good, better than the Ben | 13:49 |
| Necrosporus | Yeah | 13:49 |
| Necrosporus | For 100 bucks I can buy Ritmix RZX-50 for example | 13:50 |
| Necrosporus | Ingenic JZ4755 XBurst, 400 F, 32-bit | 13:51 |
| Necrosporus | 64 MiB RAM, 4 GiB built-in storage | 13:51 |
| Necrosporus | 480×272 screen | 13:51 |
| wolfspraul | the Ben comes with vim preinstalled | 13:52 |
| Necrosporus | better than 320x240 | 13:52 |
| Necrosporus | That's cool | 13:52 |
| Necrosporus | But there's chines laptops for 100 bucks including shipping and it can run Vim as well | 13:52 |
| wolfspraul | if that's not enough for you no other argument will win you over and you are better off with those other devices | 13:52 |
| Necrosporus | I got one | 13:52 |
| Necrosporus | well, I'd like a ben but for 100 bucks including shipping | 13:53 |
| wolfspraul | won't happen | 13:53 |
| wolfspraul | price will go up, not down | 13:53 |
| wolfspraul | we want to make a *better* Ben in the future | 13:54 |
| Necrosporus | Why? Ben is pretty much outdated and outdated hw is usually cheaper | 13:54 |
| Necrosporus | Current one I mean | 13:54 |
| wolfspraul | fine but Ben is different :-) | 13:54 |
| wolfspraul | with 'outdated' you probably mean comparing some numbers to other devices | 13:55 |
| wolfspraul | it was outdated on that perspective since birth | 13:55 |
| wolfspraul | but it's not what the Ben is about | 13:55 |
| wolfspraul | I'm not trying to sell you a Ben btw | 13:55 |
| Necrosporus | Yeah.. it has lover specs than my PDA I bought in 2003 | 13:55 |
| wolfspraul | please don't, if you don't totally love it | 13:55 |
| wolfspraul | ok great | 13:56 |
| Necrosporus | but there is no hw keyboard | 13:56 |
| wolfspraul | the Ben will remain on sale until we have a worthy successor | 13:57 |
| gargon | Necrosporus: on amazon.com, you can get a ben for usd 94 | 13:57 |
| wolfspraul | and at least from me, it will never be discounted :-) | 13:57 |
| wolfspraul | guaranteed | 13:57 |
| wolfspraul | we need to advance the milkymist soc stuff a bit more before taking another good shot at a mobile device | 13:58 |
| wolfspraul | so for now we have the Ben and I am proud of it :-) | 13:58 |
| wolfspraul | but you don't need be, no worries | 13:58 |
| Necrosporus | I think I need a pocket device running GNU/Linux | 13:59 |
| wolfspraul | ok we will work harder and maybe have a Ben successor that pleases you :-) | 13:59 |
| wolfspraul | maybe | 13:59 |
| Necrosporus | There's Nokia N9 | 13:59 |
| Necrosporus | I have tried it | 13:59 |
| wolfspraul | those are very powerful devices, amazing stuff | 14:00 |
| wpwrak | Necrosporus: you're comparing with devices that are produced in large volume and generally don't have much device-specific open source support. in some cases, they're generic enough that they don't need any specific support. in other cases, they're not, and things will run badly if at all. | 14:00 |
| Necrosporus | There's a video core which doesn't work with free software drivers | 14:00 |
| Necrosporus | Nokia N9 has linux preinstalled | 14:00 |
| wpwrak | Necrosporus: having such things is what drives the ben's value/cost/price up. | 14:00 |
| wpwrak | Necrosporus: if we just had Nokia's budget for lighting a bonfire with our money every night ... ;-) | 14:01 |
| Necrosporus | Nokia N9 however lacks hardware keyboard | 14:03 |
| LunaVorax | Hello everyone | 14:27 |
| Necrosporus | hi | 14:32 |
| kristianpaul | hey | 14:38 |
| wolfspraul | hi | 15:12 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: gencat/pdf.c: add generation of alphabetic index with hyperlinks (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/e1d613a | 15:32 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: gencat/pdf.c: add section titles (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/b3113fc | 15:32 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: change name of "genex" to "gencat" (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/41befc9 | 15:33 |
| larsc | wolfspraul: what does it do? | 15:33 |
| larsc | uhm s,wolfspraul,wpwrak, | 15:34 |
| larsc | so many letters in the alphabet you both have to use the same one ;) | 15:34 |
| wpwrak | /nick \omega pwrak | 15:36 |
| wpwrak | gencat makes this type of catalog: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/tmp/kicad-libs-components.pdf | 15:36 |
| wpwrak | the renaming is because i'll extend it to also handle modules (the "ex" was for the "expanded" symbol view, i.e., with pin types) | 15:37 |
| larsc | looks nice | 15:38 |
| wpwrak | thanks :) | 15:42 |
| viric | hm have you seen this thing? http://www.fanlesstech.com/2012/07/minix-tv-box-h24.html | 17:59 |
| wpwrak | Allwinner, the new star of open source-friendly SoCs | 19:52 |
| larsc | is it? | 20:02 |
| viric | :) | 20:02 |
| viric | I don't know why, but I liked it when I read its webpage one year ago or so | 20:02 |
| viric | and for this http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931&tab_idx=3 | 20:07 |
| viric | Is the schematics of Exynos4412 CPU module included? | 20:07 |
| viric | Yes. You will get the full schematics of Exynos4412 CPU module and ODROID-X base board. | 20:07 |
| viric | Can I get layout file and gerber file? | 20:07 |
| viric | No. | 20:07 |
| viric | When can I get schematics? | 20:07 |
| viric | It will be delivered from the 1st week of August by email request. | 20:07 |
| wpwrak | larsc: it seems to be quite popular. though technical documentation seems to be hard to find. maybe the popularity comes from it using the MALI graphics core, which has been reverse-engineered. (unlike the other, more deeply proprietary cores common on smartphones) | 20:15 |
| viric | wpwrak: that quadcore from samsung also has a mali | 20:16 |
| wpwrak | ah, nice ! die powerVR, die ! :) | 20:17 |
| viric | powerVR? | 20:17 |
| viric | wpwrak: have you seen the video with them playing mariokart64 4-players with that $130 samsung? | 20:17 |
| wpwrak | on of the proprietary graphics cores | 20:18 |
| viric | ah :) | 20:18 |
| wpwrak | no .. haven't followed the smartphone scene for a while. waiting for some more walls to fall :) | 20:18 |
| larsc | time to bring out the trumpets? | 20:22 |
| viric | :) | 20:24 |
| wpwrak | or just let a million moles dig a little longer :) | 20:24 |
| viric | hehe | 20:24 |
| viric | If I hadn't a sheevaplug, I'd buy that samsung thing | 20:24 |
| roh | hm.. how were those cut-in-the-middle via in module-pcb named? | 21:29 |
| roh | anybody a idea? | 21:30 |
| wpwrak | vias ? burried ? | 21:30 |
| roh | wpwrak: nope.. i meant that 'stamp-like' module pcb design | 21:50 |
| roh | where one has the vertically cut in the middle throughole-vias to solder at | 21:50 |
| wpwrak | aah ! now i know what you mean. fat "vias" | 21:58 |
| wpwrak | don't recall the name, though | 21:59 |
| roh | i heard 'plated half holes'.. sounds weird | 23:01 |
| roh | wpwrak: you heard harald plans to make a calypso board? | 23:08 |
| roh | http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2012-July/003144.html | 23:10 |
| wpwrak | "half-holes" sounds reasonable :) | 23:31 |
| wpwrak | he ought to make a little asic to get rid of the fog of secrecy around that ancient calypso | 23:32 |
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