#qi-hardware IRC log for Tuesday, 2012-06-05

qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: fix typo (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/3717f0c02:30
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: add create tar.bz2 ball rule (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/f07971b02:30
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: add BIG_ENDIAN support to usbboot (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/ff28d4c02:30
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: xburst-tools: update to latest, support MIPSEB now (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/341c9cf02:32
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: bga.fpd: added module for Altera 484-FineLine BGA(FBGA) and Xilinx FG(G)484 Fine-Pitch BGA, 1.00 mm pitch (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/2f182e506:31
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: sot23.fpd: added SOT23 generic package with counter-clockweise or clockwise pin assignment (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/acebf7d08:27
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: MIPS: JZ4740: Wait for delayed work to finish before disabling SLCD. (jz-3.4) http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/81861fa11:03
qi-bot[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: MIPS: JZ4740: SLCD: Don't enable the device clock twice on resume. (jz-3.4) http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/cdc51ce11:13
xiangfuafter plug the atusb to TP-LINK WR703N. I got those 'dmesg': http://pastebin.com/SMzYrG9p13:19
xiangfueverything goes fine. 13:19
xiangfunow needs the user applications13:25
wpwrakhmm, the errors looks a bit odd. but let's see what else happens13:26
xiangfuwpwrak, hmm... 13:28
xiangfuneeds user app for test.13:30
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: tsop.fpd: changed measurements and moved marker to be close to pin1's left side. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/35b911114:20
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: added TSSOP info (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3fdc95e14:25
bartbesis there no nsswitch.conf file?15:23
bartbesI mean, I created it, but it doesn't seem to work..15:31
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: MIPS: JZ4740: SLCD: wait for VSYNC before panning display. (jz-3.4) http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/a510b7218:38
whitequarkwhoever said that github is too closed for them: http://gitlabhq.com18:39
whitequarkbasically that's FOSS (MIT) github18:39
Aylait really looks like github18:40
whitequarkyeah, I guess that was the goal18:41
viricalso centralized?18:46
viricgithub - from decentralized development to centralized.18:47
whitequarkdefine "decentralized"18:50
whitequarkML-based schemes are also centralized and dependent on ML server18:50
viricI'm just joking on the centralized features they offer18:51
viricissues, pull requests, ..18:51
viriccode reviews18:52
viricthose things18:52
whitequarkI don't get what you don't like18:52
viricI think that those things are in their central db, not on your decentralized copy18:53
viricalso svn is somehow decentralized - people from different computers can checkout code :)18:54
whitequarkgithub has API which allows you to get that data in JSON18:54
viricbe it web or json, that's mainly centralized18:54
virictheir db is the only good copy18:55
viricdon't worry too much. :) We have different tastes18:55
bartbesviric: hmm, but can you even do decentralized issue tracking?19:01
viricfossil has it, that's what we use19:02
bartbes(and a pull request is basically just an issue)19:02
bartbeshow does that work?19:02
whitequarkdecentralized project management is bullshit19:02
whitequarkthat is, I'm not talking about software19:03
viricit does not have the beauty of Knuth works, but it's fine to have the issue list offline19:04
bartbesbut what does it do?19:06
bartbesoffline copies?19:06
viricticket changes are spread as DVCS elements  (artifacts, there named)19:08
whitequarkand how do you merge issues?19:09
viricas conflicts in a text file19:09
viricwell it's quite a simple aproach19:10
viricbut I like to have the issues, notes, ... together with checkins and all that19:10
viricthere are hyperlinks between them, as usual, and they go together19:10
Action: whitequark is looking at "packet flood" at the russian lower house of parliament19:36
whitequarkit's 23:35 and they're still discussing correction 50 of table 2A19:36
mthI can imagine that merging issues from one tracker to another could be useful19:41
mthfor example, Linux users report bugs to their distro, but if the distro determines it's an upstream problem, they could ask the upstream maintainers to import the issue19:41
mthwhile currently that requires a new issue to be opened and synced manually19:41
viricgrr 3rd hang of reiserfs19:48
viricin a week19:48
rz2ksince when do you care about our crap politics, whitequark?20:05
viricit's important for the politicians for you not to care20:09
bartbesbtw, is there a way I can get the ben to work with mdns? (like I would set it in /etc/nsswitch.conf on glibc systems)20:11
whitequarkviric: ^ that20:17
whitequarkideal models only exist in math books. everything in real life from software to politics is basically shit20:19
whitequarkand to do anything you need to get in that shit and manage with it. there's no other way20:19
viricsome people move in shit as if they were at home20:24
whitequarkyeah. good programmers, for example, can get their way even in the worst kinds of code20:26
whitequarkI said "manage". Not "produce more"20:26
viricI was thinking more of politicians20:51
whitequarkviric: same is true about politics21:33
qi-botThe build has FAILED: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120605-0337 23:07
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