#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2012-04-18

xwalkI'm trying to configure the xburst-tools package on Fedora 16 and I'm running into this little problem: http://pastebin.com/anABAdwc. I tried setting an environment variable to "cross-comile- use --disable-firmware" and that didn't seem to do anything to help.00:26
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Switch to tty1 for console apps (Dingux build only). (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/d1328d700:26
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Removed full path to skin files on the links (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/d227a8a00:26
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: dingux: added a "system info" link on the settings tab. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a4e25cb00:26
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: dingux: added a link to "alsamixer". (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4d3310f00:26
qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: dingux: renamed links on "settings" to force menu layout (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/454a73d00:26
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: genex/comp.c (read_desc): component missing in tree yields a warning, not error (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/1d4766800:28
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: scripts/dcm2desc: script to convert comments from .dcm files to genex descriptions (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/33f9ac400:31
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: new targets "catalog", "clean", and "spotless" (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/03ca12f00:31
wpwrakcladamw: i added a bunch of components i had sitting in various projects00:37
cladamwwpwrak, good morning !00:38
wpwrakcladamw: some of the names need cleaning up, though. so i put them all under "Unclassified" (in EXPAND)00:38
wpwrakgood night :)00:38
cladamwlemme git pull. :-)00:39
cladamwyes. bunch of them. i may also do such things from avt2. :-)00:40
wpwrakhehe :)00:41
cladamwso i need to 'make' genex it after adding symbols to get 'kicad-libs-components.pdf' everytime ?00:42
cladamwa dcm2desc script ?00:43
wpwrakno, you'll need to build and install genex (in the eda-tools project) each time it changes. and you'll need to "make catalog" (in kicad-libs) to update the catalog00:43
wpwrakcan you guess what it does ? :)00:43
cladamwnice. how to use it ?00:43
wpwrakit's used by "make catalog". all automatic :)00:44
wpwraknew catalog uploaded00:44
wpwrakyou'll see your descriptions for example at PPTC00:44
cladamwwhen talking scripts or s/w, my brain get work slowed. :-)00:45
wpwrakthat's why it all works automagically. you just say the magic word and poof, it's done :)00:45
cladamwso now. should i reinstall eda-tools again ?00:45
wpwrakcd wherever/eda-tools00:45
wpwrakgit pull00:46
wpwrakcd genex00:46
wpwrakmake install00:46
wpwrakthat should do the trick00:46
wpwraknote that i'm still making updates quite frequently00:46
cladamwwpwrak, yeah ... thanks for your great god help from human beings. :-)00:46
cladamwi try now. stay tuned. :-)00:46
wolfspraulwerner is a god now?00:47
cladamwto me at least for 'soft' paradise, ha :-)00:48
wpwrakfinally :)00:50
cladamwi made install done, then ?00:51
wpwrakgo to kicad-libs/components00:51
wpwrakthen   make catalog00:51
wpwrakthen wait a bit00:51
wpwrakah, you need a recent kicad for that. with our patches. not sure if you have that yet00:51
wpwrakif not -> eda-tools/kicad-patches00:52
cladamwyeah... you're right, auto runs but err happened seems my old KiCad.00:53
cladamwFile </home/adam/kicad-libs/components/tmp/--plot=ps.sch> not found.00:53
wpwrakoh yes, very old :)00:54
wpwrakfossilized ;-)00:54
cladamwso let's do kicad-patches now ?00:54
cladamwrun kicad_diff.sh ?00:55
cladamwor i don't need to do this kicad-patches at this moment ?00:56
wpwrakif you want to make catalogs, you need a patches kicad00:57
wpwrakand no, kicad_diff.sh does the opposite of what you want00:57
wpwraki'd suggest you follow the instructions under "first build" in README00:58
cladamwwill latest kicad patches cause unexpexted things on my site ? if not, i do this kicad-patch, or no. :-)00:58
wpwrakoh, i'm sure they will ;-)00:58
cladamwman.... okay00:58
wpwrakwhere would be the fun if there weren't surprises ? ;-)00:58
cladamwso i should do this later after xiangfu and me done on m1r4 schematic, then I follow your this README to run patch. :-)00:59
wpwrakyou may have to install a few packages. are you on ubuntu ?00:59
cladamwanyway, happy to see such auto  make catalog  done.01:00
cladamwues, ubuntu01:00
wpwrak;-)01:00
cladamws/ues/yes01:00
wpwrakokay, on ubuntu, you'll have to  apt-get install bzr cmake libwxgtk2.8-dev libboost1.46-all-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev 01:01
wpwrakmaybe you'll need more. but these are certainly necessary for building kicad01:01
wpwrakyou can install them even if you don't plan to build kicad now01:02
cladamwwpwrak, http://dpaste.com/733416/01:05
wpwrakmaybe try  apt-get update  (takes a while) and then  apt-cache search libboost | grep dev01:07
cladamwwpwrak, http://dpaste.com/733418/01:07
wpwrakcould be that your ubuntu has an older libboost. then you have to figure out the right name01:08
cladamwi'm updating...01:08
wpwraki think they're including minor revisions in the package name as a revenge for BOOST breaking its APIs from time to time :)01:09
cladamwwpwrak, http://dpaste.com/733419/01:14
wpwrakapt-get install libboost1.40-all-dev01:15
wpwraklet's hope that's recent enough ...01:15
cladamwso seems my libboost is 1.38  01:15
wpwrakthere's 1.38 and 1.4001:15
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: genex: option -D to dump all canonical component names (for missing-in-tree) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/7d97a7401:19
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/scripts/missing-in-tree: script to list components not in hierarchy (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/f602b3a01:19
cladamwdone on 'apt-get install libboost1.40-all-dev'01:19
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: target "missing" to list components missing in EXPAND (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/9aff31b01:20
wpwrakdid you install all the other packages as well ?01:20
cladamwwpwrak, so now my cmd is ? apt-get install bzr cmake libwxgtk2.8-dev libboost1.40-all-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev ?01:20
wpwrakyes, that should work01:20
wpwrak(let's hope ;-)01:20
cladamwokay. :-)01:20
cladamwwpwrak, is it done ? http://dpaste.com/733421/01:22
wpwraklooks good. seems that you had already installed all the things needed for building kicad before01:23
cladamwso next to do patches ?01:24
cladamwphew~ seems README has few steps though.01:25
cladamwi think i do this patch followed README later. :-O01:27
cladamwtime to keep working on editing sch. :)01:27
wpwrak;-)01:28
cladamwwpwrak, tks for leading me installation. 01:28
wpwrakno problem. good luck for when you try it ! :)01:29
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/EXPAND: add conn_4, conn_7x2, MEMCARD8, SCJ368R1NUS0B00G (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/f1474c001:30
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: new target "view" to view the catalog (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3e7c34b01:30
wpwrakcatalog updated. now it should have everything01:31
wpwraknext target: fishing out all the bugs ;-)01:31
wpwrakah, and kicad is contributing a few, too. the "print to postscript" isn't very reliable01:32
wpwrake.g., 74X1G00_5 has the arc facing the wrong way. in XP01111 the text in the base-emitter resistors has mysteriously vanished. and so on :-(01:33
cladamwyeah... that arc, also the 74AUP1G08GW, 12501:41
wpwrakyup. there's a bug for everyone ;)01:59
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: given better 100 mil gap between pins and orders (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/2cdfafd03:57
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:kicad-libs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/0b4778403:57
kyakjow_laptop: ping05:53
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: con.lib: added CONN_3 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3277f0b07:13
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: con.dcm : added empty .dcm (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/fc4e71a07:28
jow_laptopkyak: pong11:02
kyakjow_laptop: hi! could you please have a look at tickets 11236 and 11264? I don't know if you have a chance to check gettext-version fixup, but i think we agreed on naming of toolchain11:12
jow_laptopk11:22
qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: con.lib -> added CONN_2, CONN_10X2 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/8a05b9b12:42
LunaVoraxHello everyone!15:25
Aylawhohooo! I'm on the Top 10! :D16:53
kyakyou are running for the top 5 :)16:53
kyak42 more joins!16:53
Ayladefinitely16:53
Aylagive me one day, and it'll be done ;)16:53
kyakjust ask your provider not to fix your link ;)16:54
Aylatechnically I'm 7, I see wolfspraul did cheat16:57
roh.s17:30
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larsc5 nicks?18:38
Aylax71 smileys on 1252 lines, that's not much18:39
larsci'm not a happy person :(18:40
AylaxHeh, looks like I smile as much as you do18:41
larscbut write shorter words18:42
AylaxWhat with the 235 nicks? lol18:42
AylaxWhoooo18:43
larsc:D18:43
zumbiwhat is top10?18:44
larscwell, the top 1018:44
DocScrutinizeryay18:48
DocScrutinizerdang this bot drives me nuts 18:49
DocScrutinizer>>All commands can sent to me in pm without "!" prefix.-<< haha, if that were true I hadn't spammed the chan with !help18:52
kyak/msg qi-bot stat #qi-hardware18:53
kyakno problem18:53
DocScrutinizerpfff18:53
DocScrutinizer/query qi-bot18:54
DocScrutinizerhelp18:54
DocScrutinizernada18:54
DocScrutinizerdunno if "pm" is a defined term which I miss the true meaning18:55
kyakprivate message18:55
DocScrutinizerthought as much18:55
DocScrutinizertranslates to /query for me18:55
kyakit,s the same thing, query just opens a new window.. thought it,s opened anyway when the bot messages you back18:58
DocScrutinizerbtw not only for me but even for my IRC client which opens a query tab "qi-bot" printing what I posted per /msg qi-bot18:58
DocScrutinizeranyway, /msg qi-bot help doesn't result in any answer either18:59
kyakit won,t18:59
DocScrutinizernot even /msg qi-bot !help does19:00
kyakhelp is a channel bind only19:00
DocScrutinizergreat!19:00
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kyak"help" should work now in pm, too19:10
DocScrutinizer:-D19:29
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/EXPAND: added conn_2, conn_3, conn_10x2 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/9a68e1b21:48
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: improved dependencies; target "upload" to upload catalog (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/845998821:48
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: genex: add progress reporting, and option -q to turn it off (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/e804e0221:48
LunaVoraxWhat kind of videos is MPlayer supposed to play?22:25
LunaVoraxNot a big surprise but I doesn't see my MP4s and FLVs22:25
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/BUILD-CHEAT-SHEET: removed RTEMS/YAFFS pinning; added known to be good versions (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/31ba2e423:13
GNUtoo-desktopLunaVorax, flv is a container but usually youtube vlv videos are in low resolution23:19
GNUtoo-desktop*flv23:19
GNUtoo-desktop*available in low resolution23:19
LunaVoraxYes and?23:21
LunaVoraxI don't see the connection23:21
GNUtoo-desktopI guess the nanonote is not very powerfull....23:23
GNUtoo-desktopso if mplayer is compiled  with flv support....23:23
AylaFLV is just a container23:24
Aylameh, you just said that23:24
LunaVoraxMaybe I don't know23:26
LunaVoraxBut that wasn't the problem GNUtoo-desktop 23:26
GNUtoo-desktopok23:26
LunaVoraxI was refering to MPlayer's GUI which doesn't list FLV and MP423:27
GNUtoo-desktopopenwrt or jlime?23:27
LunaVoraxWhich isn't a problem since I figured out that this version of mplayer doesn't include h264 support23:27
LunaVoraxopenwrt23:27
GNUtoo-desktopok23:27
Aylah264? On nanonote? x)23:27
LunaVoraxStill, it "waits" indefinitely while openning a WebM file.23:28
LunaVoraxAyla, I wasn't trying to play a 1080p video23:28
Aylathat's because it takes one minute to decode a frame ;)23:28
LunaVoraxHum23:28
LunaVoraxHaven't tried that23:28
Aylah264 is very demanding even for low-resolution videos23:28
Aylatry xvid23:29
LunaVoraxOh well, if h264 is very demanding, it won't be better for VP823:29
LunaVoraxHum no, I hate reencoding videos and theses are already in bad quality23:29
LunaVoraxBut i'll try with a HD one23:29
Action: DocScrutinizer figures video playback on NN display (never seen it in RL, but anyway)23:33
GNUtoo-desktophttp://jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/nanonote/videos hmmm the website tells me to install flash....23:35
DocScrutinizerIIRC mplayer has a renderer that outputs ascii art?23:35
GNUtoo-desktopbye23:35
DocScrutinizerooh, that video is nice, and I realize the NN display is color23:37
LunaVoraxAyla, something is probably wrong, it doesn't work either with a 320x180 xvid video23:43
LunaVoraxI got sound only23:43
LunaVoraxAnyway23:43
LunaVoraxI'll just go to sleep23:43
LunaVoraxSee ya23:43
Aylabye23:43
DocScrutinizergand, google glasses23:51
DocScrutinizerdang even23:51
DocScrutinizerhttp://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/google-begins-testing-its-augmented-reality-glasses/23:54
DocScrutinizermaybe it's exploitable without getting a remote controlled drone of Google23:55
DocScrutinizers/getting/becoming/23:55
DocScrutinizerwas it this channel where I brainstormed about the visor alike AR goggles I'd like to find?23:56
DocScrutinizerthis gadget it close to it23:56
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