qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: Fix Aseprite and Alex4 compilation with newest version of OpenWrt (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d478f19 | 01:47 |
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wolfspraul | when does David sleep? | 01:50 |
dvdk | :) | 01:50 |
dvdk | not at the regular times :) | 01:50 |
wolfspraul | xiangfu: hi good morning :-) | 01:52 |
wolfspraul | your latest release has gotten some attention and people help to bring things back together - which is wonderful! | 01:53 |
dvdk | will there be a 03-18-b release? given how much is still broken? | 01:54 |
wolfspraul | let's continue to inrease the quality in builds and makefiles etc. to reduce our maintenance overhead going forward | 01:54 |
wolfspraul | oh sure, why not | 01:54 |
dvdk | btw, will just have a (short) look on the bard package | 01:55 |
wolfspraul | sometimes xiangfu is a bit lonely/overwhelmed, so he just kicked this 'release' out also for people to see the distro is still alive :-) | 01:55 |
wolfspraul | the long term goal is to increase quality, decrease maintenance overhead | 01:55 |
wolfspraul | so that we can make future new products (hw+sw combined) without running into a fork/maintenance trap | 01:56 |
wolfspraul | but as we can see now, it's easier said than done - things get upleveled, other things break, etc. | 01:56 |
dvdk | I guess most people (including me) won't have looked at he problems as long as it was still labled "testing" or "prerelease" :) | 01:56 |
wolfspraul | sure that's ok, we all need to be efficient with our time | 01:56 |
wolfspraul | high quality software does *not* rot, right? :-) | 01:57 |
kristianpaul | I was trying last release today.. got few apps :( (yes i'm aware rebase issues) | 01:57 |
Action: kristianpaul could had also try nanonote owrt from upstream.. | 01:58 | |
dvdk | kristianpaul: wahat's missing | 01:58 |
dvdk | ? | 01:58 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: yes but it's correct to first remove everything that drags us down, and then bring things back depending on what someone wants, where a maintainer steps up, what is easy to un-break, etc. | 01:59 |
wolfspraul | otherwise we would drag a bigger and bigger boatload of low-quality stuff with us, which would be bad | 01:59 |
kristianpaul | i dont remenner actually... i had installed the night build from late 2011 | 02:00 |
kristianpaul | dvdk: soem gtk based apps i think | 02:00 |
wolfspraul | dvdk: I thought more about codecs, and I think we can and should really only focus on a very short whitelist, starting with Ogg*, and 100% clear free stuff only | 02:00 |
wolfspraul | basically what we do already :-) | 02:00 |
kristianpaul | sure remove is okay | 02:00 |
kristianpaul | those were working (wrong characters) well anyway | 02:00 |
wolfspraul | we have nothing to gain by thinking that if we just include this one MPEG whatever or other borderline codec, where patents might have/should have expired, we are doing something good | 02:01 |
kristianpaul | xiangfu: about jz4760, just curious when Miguel mention flash support that will require xburst tool support the specific nand chip that its board uses? | 02:01 |
wolfspraul | it's better to focus on the best free codecs, and support and document them well | 02:02 |
kristianpaul | or this is some how done by the xburst soc it self? | 02:02 |
wolfspraul | most likely videos or music for the Ben will have to be transcoded anyway | 02:02 |
kristianpaul | just curious to learn a bit of xburst tool, big unknow to me so far ;-) | 02:02 |
xiangfu | kristianpaul, (jz4760) I don't think so. I would guess just some configure should be ok. | 02:05 |
xiangfu | kristianpaul, I found the gtk/qt moved to other package feeds. I added them back yesterday. in fact include all feeds I can found. :) | 02:06 |
xiangfu | kristianpaul, so the gtk/qt will be back soon. | 02:06 |
xiangfu | dvdk, I will try to fix the package from feedback. | 02:09 |
dvdk | hi xiangfu. fix which packages | 02:10 |
dvdk | ? | 02:10 |
xiangfu | bard first | 02:10 |
xiangfu | then ase | 02:10 |
dvdk | xiangfu: ase already fixed http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d478f19 | 02:12 |
dvdk | looking just at fixing bard | 02:12 |
xiangfu | you fast :) | 02:13 |
kristianpaul | xiangfu: gtk, good :) | 02:19 |
kristianpaul | xiangfu: jz4760, np, just vagly asking i dont hold much interested on it, just curious about xburst a bit as i said | 02:20 |
kristianpaul | actually my nanonote interest are software related, i had lear some about openwrt and linux thanks to it :) | 02:20 |
qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: bard: fix compilation (various configure script fixes), still misses dejavu font (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/2c706db | 02:29 |
dvdk | so where do I find the font packaga dejavu-fonts-ttf-DejaVuSans? | 02:30 |
dvdk | for bard? | 02:30 |
xiangfu | dvdk, it's under another package feeds: svn://svn.openwrt.org/openwrt/feeds/xorg | 02:32 |
xiangfu | dvdk, this is our new feeds.conf: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/openwrt-xburst.full_system/feeds.conf | 02:32 |
xiangfu | dvdk, let's wait this build result: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120321-0142/. it should build gtk/qt and font | 02:34 |
dvdk | ah, ok wasn't here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/latest/feeds.conf | 02:34 |
qi-bot | The build was successful: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120321-0142 | 02:44 |
dvdk | ok, bard works now. packag here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/dvdkhlng/openwrt/ | 02:44 |
wolfspraul | wow | 02:46 |
wolfspraul | thanks! | 02:46 |
dvdk | hmm, I cannot open .epub files; only .txt files. maybe some libs still missing | 02:51 |
dvdk | but the speech synthesis is talking at least :) | 02:51 |
kristianpaul | bte screen is getting white after a while.. let confirm again not been my broke bus.. | 02:52 |
wolfspraul | oh nice, wait | 02:52 |
wolfspraul | you can make the ben read a text aloud to you? | 02:52 |
wolfspraul | I wanted to give this a solid try soon | 02:52 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: check that your battery is charged | 02:52 |
wolfspraul | and then check that the fpc from mainboard to lcm is seated well in the connector on the mainboard | 02:53 |
wolfspraul | (hopefully there is no problem at the hot-glued connection on the lcm side) | 02:53 |
kristianpaul | not my lcm bus.. damn i hate my self for breaking it | 02:53 |
dvdk | hmm, which pakcage has zip.h? | 02:54 |
dvdk | night. | 03:09 |
wolfspraul | n8 | 03:12 |
kristianpaul | nice size | 03:13 |
kristianpaul | voice a bot robotic but not that bad | 03:13 |
kristianpaul | oh, yeah missing gnuplot octave as well.. | 03:15 |
kristianpaul | links or was elinks.. | 03:16 |
kristianpaul | ah wait | 03:16 |
kristianpaul | nv | 03:16 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: what is the easiest way / command line to have the ben read a text aloud? | 03:17 |
wolfspraul | robotic, hmm. I am probably spoilt from some actors recording audio books. | 03:18 |
wolfspraul | there's no way software will easily match that in quality. | 03:18 |
kristianpaul | bard? | 03:18 |
kristianpaul | bard --text some.text | 03:18 |
kristianpaul | then pressed s | 03:18 |
wolfspraul | cool | 03:18 |
kristianpaul | n8 | 03:54 |
wolfspraul | n8 | 03:56 |
qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: add new folder for m1 Kicad (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/5a5e335 | 08:55 |
wolfspraul | xiangfu: I think we want to keep the m1 kicad schematics/bom in github | 09:03 |
wolfspraul | wait for werner & adam to pick the final location | 09:03 |
xiangfu | wolfspraul, yes. | 09:03 |
xiangfu | ok | 09:03 |
kristianpaul | Order is being prepared for shipment. !, finally.. | 11:02 |
wpwrak | kristianpaul: digi-key ? | 14:42 |
kristianpaul | wpwrak: nope, yet | 15:10 |
kristianpaul | dx.com i ordered a rtl-sdr compatible DVB-T dongle | 15:10 |
kristianpaul | but i will ! (digikey) just noticed i have two different SMD type of mechanical of capactitors.. | 15:11 |
kristianpaul | need confirm list before order.. | 15:12 |
kristianpaul | shopping list* | 15:12 |
whitequark | whoever asked about osPID here... | 16:16 |
whitequark | it has arrived! | 16:16 |
whitequark | I'm assembling it now | 16:16 |
kristianpaul | whitequark:acrylic is 3mm ? | 16:21 |
kristianpaul | or 2mm? | 16:22 |
whitequark | kristianpaul: wait a sec | 16:29 |
whitequark | kristianpaul: 3mm | 16:30 |
kristianpaul | good | 16:31 |
whitequark | they have a very... unusual way of mounting PCBs | 16:39 |
whitequark | this is seriously clever, I could never manage to think of something like that | 16:40 |
whitequark | they milled several narrow grooves in the acrylic, and added some screws (again, quite perversely mounted within acrylic itself, but I'm unable to explain _this_) | 16:40 |
whitequark | which hold the acrylic tightly | 16:40 |
whitequark | and hence, the PCBs are also held in place | 16:41 |
whitequark | very, very clever | 16:41 |
whitequark | these grooves are also quite coarse, which adds some friction | 16:43 |
whitequark | and the PCBs are like .1mm longer than the case itself, so they are forced to stay in those | 16:43 |
whitequark | sigh. | 17:49 |
whitequark | both firmware and app are... well, they're arduino. | 17:49 |
kristianpaul | mplayer: can't load library 'libfaad.so.2' | 18:19 |
kristianpaul | :( | 18:19 |
kristianpaul | do we really need syslogd on the naonote? | 18:21 |
wpwrak | kristianpaul: yes, because there's no port to connect a line printer to (who would print the log entries directly to paper, for the operators to review) | 18:46 |
kristianpaul | nah | 18:48 |
roh | kristianpaul: there are different kinds of syslogd | 18:49 |
kristianpaul | also nowdays logs are not reviwed by operators ;) | 18:49 |
roh | i think what openwrt uses in default is fine. i think it logs into a fifo or so... one can read it via logread | 18:49 |
roh | which is part of busybox | 18:50 |
roh | same as syslogd there | 18:50 |
kristianpaul | ah good | 18:52 |
wpwrak | fifo sounds reasonably non-intrusive | 18:57 |
kristianpaul | indeed | 18:58 |
whitequark | roh: memory buffer, not a fifo | 20:58 |
whitequark | it's like dmesg | 20:58 |
whitequark | it's fixed size, small and does not incur nand writes | 20:58 |
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