| therealdod | hi | 03:50 |
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| wolfspra1l | hi | 04:44 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: fix the rtc bug (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5a49fe2 | 10:00 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: fix the rtc bug (release_2011-11-13) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a89fb23 | 10:05 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: rtc: jz4740 fix hwclock give time out (xiangfu/openwrt/v3.0.0) http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/9c46e24 | 10:06 |
| kyak | one liner patch, big problem solved :) | 10:11 |
| xiangfu | now wait the build host :) | 10:12 |
| xiangfu | still building ... http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.minimal-20120315-1226/ | 10:12 |
| xiangfu | when th log goes to 200M. it will start build full_system which is for release. | 10:12 |
| xiangfu | kyak, I start the minimal build (CONFIG_ALL=y) for list all failed package. | 10:13 |
| xiangfu | in case the full_system always exit build since it select too much packages. | 10:13 |
| larsc | xiangfu: hm, the patch unconditionally enables the 1HZ interrupt? | 10:18 |
| larsc | that doesn't sound like the correct solution. but it might help us to narrow down the real issue | 10:20 |
| xiangfu | larsc, I can't find the root cause. after Linux update a lot on AIE_EMU. I think jz4740 break. | 10:29 |
| xiangfu | after 2.6.38 if I don't remember wrong. | 10:29 |
| larsc | so with that patch we just trigger a RTC irq per second | 10:30 |
| larsc | which causes the irq core to check whether the alarm timer has expired | 10:31 |
| larsc | this suggests that the alarm irq doesn't fire correctly | 10:31 |
| larsc | does hw clock even wait for alarm irqs? | 10:32 |
| xiangfu | larsc, the rtctest didn't working under v3.2.1 anymore. | 10:45 |
| xiangfu | blocked after output message. | 10:45 |
| xiangfu | so I think alarm irqs doesn't work | 10:45 |
| xiangfu | larsc, sorry. I have to go. check the irc log tomorrow. see you | 10:46 |
| qi-bot | The build has FAILED: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.minimal-20120315-1226 | 11:57 |
| wpwrak | and now, my workstation's disk has failed. what a great week :-( | 14:14 |
| wpwrak | i'm developing an increasingly intense dislike for ubuntu's obscure boot process. i wonder if it should stick with ubuntu, go back to gentoo, or maybe even consider debian. | 14:15 |
| viric | Werner, go NixOS | 14:17 |
| viric | throw away all those old-style headaches | 14:17 |
| viric | and welcome a world of much nicer headaches | 14:19 |
| wpwrak | i knew you'd say that ;-) | 14:20 |
| viric | RAID is not a bad option (specially considering the I) | 14:20 |
| viric | some people use to build RAED ;) | 14:21 |
| lindi- | wpwrak: upstart or something else? | 14:21 |
| wpwrak | it should still be somewhat comfty :) | 14:21 |
| viric | masochism is a subset of taste | 14:22 |
| wpwrak | i actually don't mind most of the rest of ubuntu. once it's booted and all the desktop junk is removed, it has plenty of nice packages | 14:22 |
| viric | yes, it looks like you need still some more doses of ubuntu before NixOS ;) | 14:24 |
| wpwrak | hmm. gentoo cd from 2004 didn't want to boot :( now let's see how the hopelessly scratched ubuntu cd from last year fares ... | 14:25 |
| wpwrak | "unrecoverable error". hmm ... then a startup sound followed by an empty desktop | 14:26 |
| wpwrak | ah, and i can get a text console. that's better :) | 14:26 |
| wpwrak | now .. let's see if anything can be salvaged ... | 14:26 |
| wpwrak | no /etc. that's promising ... | 14:28 |
| viric | etc contents are trivial :) | 14:31 |
| wpwrak | (the failure was the file system suddenly going read-only, but without an actual disk error. then i fsck'ed it, which apparently made things worse) | 14:31 |
| viric | fsck+repair? | 14:31 |
| viric | Think how would you implement repair, and you'll learn why never to accept repair without a backup | 14:31 |
| wpwrak | yeah, i was hoping for a repair :) | 14:31 |
| viric | :D | 14:31 |
| viric | with what fs? | 14:32 |
| viric | a fs with lost+found? :) | 14:32 |
| wpwrak | i did implement a rather paranoid repair in dosfsck :) | 14:32 |
| wpwrak | ext3. but no traces of /etc in lost+found | 14:32 |
| viric | that's quite a trivial fs, no? | 14:32 |
| wpwrak | though there's are things that look as if they came from under /etc | 14:34 |
| wpwrak | may just / | 14:34 |
| wpwrak | etc got nuked | 14:34 |
| wpwrak | (dosfsck, trivial) if you saw the damage MS's chkdsk normally did, you'd think it was hyperspace travel technology, far beyond the grasp of mankind | 14:36 |
| viric | :D | 14:38 |
| viric | I never looked at it in detail | 14:38 |
| viric | But I always liked the question: the two fat copies differ. What to pick? | 14:38 |
| viric | hehe | 14:38 |
| wpwrak | i think you always pick the first :) | 14:45 |
| wpwrak | hmm. my backup-before-messing-with-things usb disk has size 0. perhaps that ububtu rescue was a bit too old then ... | 14:46 |
| wpwrak | downloading a new one ... | 14:46 |
| wpwrak | why can't those stupid computer now just simply do their job ? it's not as if i hadn't anything better to do :-( | 14:47 |
| viric | that's because you use free source | 14:49 |
| wpwrak | yeah. i guess it's true. you get what you pay for | 14:50 |
| viric | it's an anarchy of weird programmers all implementing their particular opinions on how should all work, and then trying to merge all. | 14:51 |
| wpwrak | nothing good can come out of such a mess | 14:53 |
| wpwrak | /home/qi looks relatively unscathed. i take this as a good sign. | 15:00 |
| viric | wpwrak: do you have the locate db? ;) check if it matches your disk | 15:07 |
| wpwrak | hmm, dunno. booting another rescue disc now. | 15:08 |
| wpwrak | fascinating. new ubuntu doesn't even have a shell at its dektop | 15:15 |
| wpwrak | hmm. still can't read the usb disk. this is getting ugly. | 15:17 |
| wpwrak | another disk, same problem. so it looks like a driver issue | 15:21 |
| wpwrak | hmm. weird. same thing on another pc. that doesn't make sense. these drives used to work. | 15:37 |
| viric | It passed some time since I did not hear the word 'drive' :D | 15:39 |
| viric | *since I heard last time* | 15:39 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: debian ! :-) | 15:39 |
| kristianpaul | of course gentoo still good choice if you just install it once ; ) | 15:40 |
| Action: larsc is a happy debian user too | 15:45 | |
| wpwrak | interesting. forcing full-speed usb helped | 15:45 |
| wpwrak | now, this will be fun ... | 15:45 |
| viric | 'full' means 'slow' :) | 15:47 |
| wpwrak | very. strangely, i don't get usb errors | 15:48 |
| kristianpaul | viric:all is relative | 15:49 |
| wpwrak | the drive is supposed to be insane-speed capable or whatever they call it. so you'd think it masters the slower variants quite well | 15:51 |
| viric | you may have a bad cable | 15:51 |
| wpwrak | two bad cables ? | 15:52 |
| wpwrak | with two computers and two drives ? | 15:52 |
| viric | not such a low probability | 15:55 |
| wpwrak | trying via a hub ... ah, it hates that. hehe :) | 15:57 |
| wpwrak | same thing on my laptop | 16:01 |
| wpwrak | hmm. so it'll be surgery without prior backup then | 16:08 |
| wpwrak | meanwhile, an old samsung usb drive works just fine. take that, WD ! alas, the samsung is full of data | 16:19 |
| wpwrak | kewl. and now the mouse on my laptop stopped working. can i please wake up from this nightmare ? | 16:22 |
| LunaVorax | Hello everyone! | 19:16 |
| kristianpaul | hi | 19:41 |
| viric | wpwrak: woke up? | 20:10 |
| wpwrak | viric: what/who ? | 20:37 |
| wpwrak | viric: making a backup now, after bringing my samsung drive to a usable state. it also has its set of USB issues, but not as bad as the WDs | 20:38 |
| wpwrak | and then it's surgery time :) | 20:38 |
| viric | how do you backup? | 20:43 |
| viric | did I already spam about 'btar'? http://viric.name/cgi-bin/btar | 20:47 |
| viric | Ayla, larsc, mth: there was a way to catch hidden panics... | 20:48 |
| viric | like launching a 2nd kernel with kexec on panic | 20:48 |
| viric | I'd like to setup that | 20:49 |
| wpwrak | viric: i use rsync. so if anything happens, usb hickup, power failure, etc., i can resume | 20:52 |
| viric | ok | 20:52 |
| wpwrak | viric: also, a backup to a filesystem lets me access/recover files individually | 20:53 |
| viric | fine, if you can afford that :) | 20:53 |
| wpwrak | afford ? | 20:54 |
| viric | you have enough disk space | 20:54 |
| wpwrak | (power failure) i had already two fail-to-ups and two fail-through-ups power cuts this week. the disk trouble is just the icing on the cake | 20:55 |
| wpwrak | (disk space) i get disks for that purpose. i think it's the only viable backup media nowadays anyway | 20:56 |
| viric | ok | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | hi! | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | you decided on which bot to mute the regex? | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/u/U/ | 21:00 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: yoU decided on which bot to mute the regex? | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/u/U/g | 21:01 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: yoU decided on which bot to mUte the regex? | 21:01 |
| wpwrak | why do we have so many bots in the first place ? :) | 21:03 |
| wpwrak | infobot seems to be more consistent with sed. the implicit /g of qi-bot can be confusing | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~status | 21:05 |
| infobot | Since Fri Mar 16 15:02:11 2012, there have been 1 modification, 135 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 56 commands. I have been awake for 6h 3m 33s this session, and currently reference 118455 factoids. I'm using about 20320 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 119.61/6.04 child 0/0 | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | even while 2/3 of those 118k factoids are ZIP codes and some other class of nonsense I forgot, it still is incredibly usefull to have access to such a large database that easily gets extended/updated easily | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's why | 21:07 |
| wpwrak | i actually prefer to read wikipedia in a web browser instead of my irc client :) | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~wiki ircbot | 21:08 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRCBot (URL), Wikipedia explains: "An 'IRC bot' is a set of scripts or an independent program that connects to Internet Relay Chat as a client, and so appears to other IRC users as another user. An IRC bot differs from a regular client in that instead of providing interactive access to IRC for a human user, it performs automated functions. The historically oldest IRC bots were Bill Wisner's Bartender and Greg Lindahl's ... | 21:08 |
| wpwrak | sigh | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 21:09 |
| wpwrak | may dump any images as ASCII art ? | 21:10 |
| wpwrak | may->maybe | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | no way | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~qi-hardware | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr | 21:10 |
| wpwrak | i thought you liked spam ? :) | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~qi-hw | 21:10 |
| infobot | [qi-hw] copyleft hardware | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | that'S the kind of factoid based info it's most useful for | 21:11 |
| wpwrak | infobot, the embodiment of uselessness :) | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, ask wolfspraul - I ofered to kick the bot anytime, he replied he wants to keep it | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | if she annoys you, there's still /ignore | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 21:13 |
| viric | is System.map still of some utility? | 21:19 |
| viric | I have bzImage and vmlinux... | 21:20 |
| Ayla | viric, hi | 21:22 |
| Ayla | I did toy with kexec on OpenDingux not so long ago | 21:22 |
| Ayla | (if you were asking about kexec on nanonote, that is) | 21:23 |
| viric | I want to try that on PC... | 21:25 |
| viric | but I imagined you would know :) | 21:25 |
| viric | you used it for KCRASH? | 21:25 |
| Ayla | no | 21:26 |
| viric | ok, I want kcrash | 21:26 |
| Ayla | all the time the jz-kernel crashes here, the kernel doesn't even panic | 21:28 |
| viric | I imagine. | 21:28 |
| Ayla | it just freezes | 21:28 |
| viric | I just have to hope that it may have paniced in my case | 21:28 |
| Ayla | and the watchdog reboots the device :/ | 21:28 |
| viric | hw watchdog? | 21:29 |
| viric | maybe uboot could do a dump of the ram! :) | 21:29 |
| Ayla | yes hw watchdog | 21:30 |
| viric | Ayla: I imagine my pc is just hanging, without panic too. | 21:36 |
| Ayla | heh | 21:37 |
| Ayla | it occurs from time to time here | 21:37 |
| viric | mine is a phenom II | 21:37 |
| viric | no other computers in the office crash | 21:37 |
| Ayla | worse, my PC boots up from time to time by itself, at the middle of the night | 21:38 |
| viric | ha, interesting | 21:40 |
| whitequark | Ayla: rtc alarm | 21:54 |
| Ayla | whitequark, well, I'm not sure it occurs at the same time of the night | 21:55 |
| whitequark | otherwise it's very horribly broken | 21:56 |
| Ayla | <paul@cerebro:/sys/class/rtc/rtc0> $ cat since_epoch | 21:56 |
| Ayla | 1331935082 | 21:56 |
| Ayla | <paul@cerebro:/sys/class/rtc/rtc0> $ cat wakealarm | 21:56 |
| whitequark | or else: ethernet wakeup, ps/2 wakeup, usb wakeup | 21:56 |
| whitequark | I don't know of others | 21:56 |
| Ayla | 1331948872 | 21:56 |
| Ayla | MEH | 21:56 |
| Ayla | looks like it's the RTC alarm which wakes up my PC | 21:58 |
| Ayla | do you have any idea what could set my RTC alarm? | 21:59 |
| Ayla | I never do it myself | 21:59 |
| larsc | OS update? | 21:59 |
| Ayla | you mean updating the version of the kernel? | 21:59 |
| larsc | no, some system update process | 22:00 |
| larsc | which updates packages | 22:00 |
| larsc | do you use ubuntu? | 22:00 |
| Ayla | debian | 22:00 |
| larsc | hm | 22:00 |
| viric | a clever cron would set the wakealarm hahaha | 22:00 |
| larsc | my debian doesn't wakeup in the middle of the night | 22:01 |
| larsc | Ayla: do you have a webcam on your PC? | 22:01 |
| Ayla | no webcam no | 22:01 |
| larsc | i thought there might be somebody watching you sleep ;) | 22:02 |
| Ayla | I have a DVB-t USB tuner, a USB sound card, keyboard/mouse | 22:02 |
| Ayla | that's... frightening | 22:03 |
| viric | maybe someone likes to hear you sleep | 22:04 |
| larsc | hehe | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | dvb-t ? hey | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, you wanna record something | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably as easy as accidentally hitting enter key in EPG | 22:06 |
| viric | a dvb-t usb tuner? what can a kernel hacker do with a dvb-t usb tuner? | 22:07 |
| Ayla | receive alien signals | 22:08 |
| larsc | aha | 22:09 |
| viric | I knew your case would involve aliens | 22:09 |
| viric | I just had to ask the key question. | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd probably use a dvb-s tuner for receiving aliens | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | the -t variant is by name not siuted for that purpose ;-D | 23:04 |
| wpwrak | dvb-a ? | 23:29 |
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