#qi-hardware IRC log for Wednesday, 2012-03-14

qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: nanonote-files: compile-openwrt-xburst.sh: ignore build when there is no new commit (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/669f92101:38
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: 4th tig byobu calcurse gawk remind taskwarrior: merged in upstream (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/15c884101:38
xiangfuwpwrak, I met a atUsb compile error yesterday: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.minimal-20120313-1636/BUILD_LOG.last10003:03
xiangfuwpwrak, there is no 'set_irq_chip_data' in v3.2.1 any more 03:03
whitequarkhm05:13
whitequarkcan anyone suggest a nice RTOS for 32-bit CPU with 8k of RAM?05:14
Action: xiangfu testing the next release: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120313-M/07:02
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: stardict: disable the dictionary depends on stardict (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9c746f007:29
wpwrakxiangfu: ah, the dirty hacks are coming back to haunt us ...07:52
larscwpwrak: nah, set_irq_chip_data is just called irq_set_chip_data now08:31
larsctlgx did a big namespace cleanup08:31
larsctglx08:31
wpwrakoh, good. thanks !08:34
xiangfularsc, thanks that is why grep give nothing.08:46
whitequarkwpwrak: can you answer a few questions about laser cut cases?08:47
whitequarkor, generally, cnc-machined ones08:47
wpwrakxiangfu: can you fix this with a patch in the owrt build ? or do you need a change from me "upstream" ? i'm not set up for doing anything with wpan at the moment, even the bens are buried under layers of milkymists and midi devices, so it would be a bit inconvenient for me08:52
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: xburst: nanonote: fix atusb compile error (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a4f946008:53
wpwrakwhitequark: for laser-cutting, you may want roh. for milling, i may be able to help08:53
wpwrakah, that commit answered it ;-)08:53
xiangfuwpwrak, yes. sure. buildhost is busy on compile. :)08:53
wpwrakgreat, thanks !08:53
whitequarkwpwrak: well, my questions aren't specific for laser cutting08:54
Action: wpwrak wonders if anything else is coming :)09:03
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: cgminer: add include miner.php for web access cgminer (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b9fad4909:04
larscwpwrak: I have a few questions regarding missile guidance and though you might know something about it ;)09:05
Action: whitequark has been battling with CAD09:05
whitequarkhttp://i.imgur.com/pWudu.png09:05
whitequarke.g. I have this kind of connection09:06
whitequarkand I know that precision of the machine is X mm and the width of cut is Y mm09:06
whitequarkhow much margin should I leave for the machine for the details to be connectable yet not too loose?09:06
wpwraklarsc: fire away ! ;-) and always remember the quantity-vs-quality formula: #missiles = (deviation/blast_radius)^209:08
whitequarklarsc: what country do you dislike so much?09:09
wpwrakwhitequark: hmm, i usually leave 0.05-0.1 mm between mating parts. but that also depends on the cutting process09:10
whitequarkhm, 0.1mm is the precision of cutting process afaik (well, it depends on the fab and I still don't know what one would I use...)09:10
wpwraki.e., you may have to make adjustments when going from (ideal) design to the toolpath09:10
wpwrakwould be be a problem if you had to sand off some plastic (at the interconnecting parts) ?09:11
whitequarkno, it's an one-time, one-part project09:12
wpwrakthen you could even leave no gap09:12
whitequarksandpaper wins as usual. nice.09:12
wpwrakit's easy to create a gap by sanding off things. much harder to close one because they're loose. (well, there's always silicone :)09:12
whitequarkoh, silicone is nice. it won't even damage the look (mostly)09:13
whitequarkok. what about screws?09:13
wpwrakyes, how will you keep things in place ? :)09:14
whitequarkthe image only shows a part of the case09:14
whitequarkit's an M1 case clone. well, it wasn't supposed to be, but turns out that I just followed the easiest path and now I have an M1 case clone09:15
wpwrak;-)09:15
whitequarkah I know. I'll ditch rounded corners and make them 45° cut.09:16
whitequarkthen it won't be a clone.09:16
whitequarkalso: more BSG-ish look.09:16
wpwrakgood. then roh won't sue you ;-)09:17
whitequarkdid he patented the case? :D09:17
wpwrakroh: see, you didn't have to hire all those laywers from apple vs. samsung after all09:17
whitequarkthe funniest thing about apple vs. samsung is that they still use "some" samsung's services09:18
whitequarkfor example, CPUs in latest iphone come from samsung09:18
whitequarkwhich leads me to the conclusion that it's just marketing09:18
xiangfuwhat is the the back ground video in those videos: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6E991D77D948B785&feature=plcp. seems not Milkymist One.09:19
wpwrakoh, i'm sure samsung will comply with all the contracts they've made. in apple's place, i'd worry a lot more about what happens when these contracts end ...09:19
whitequarkah. sure, contracts. companies are just like children having a grudge one against another, but the former, unlike the latter, have contracts.09:21
larscwell, samsung != samsung. the samsung thats manufacturing the A5 is probably not the samsung that builds the smartphones09:27
wolfspraulyes, not the same09:29
wolfspraulthose are all large business units that are managed independently, except for belonging to the same parent group09:29
wolfspraul'large' meaning each of those units has thousands of employees09:30
whitequarkyes09:45
whitequarkbut I assume that lawyers don't care because parent company is the same09:46
whitequarki.e. they share the responsibilites09:46
wolfspraullawyers care most that they can send bills for every working hour and every page of written text somewhere09:47
wolfspraulif that's the case, they will start writing :-)09:47
wolfsprauland I mean this in a respectful way of course, the legal system is very important imho09:48
wolfspraulif you see a lawyer doing something you think is 'bad', you better look for who is paying and instructing the lawyer09:49
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu: kbd: update to 1.15.3 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/321ebf210:11
larscjust for the record: for the irq namespace cleanup issue there is a coccinelle script which does a automatic conversion of old code. https://tglx.de/~tglx/genirq-namespace.cocci10:20
kristianpaulgreat !! Takuji Ebinuma  uploaded the namuru-gpl code http://www.sensorcomm.co.jp/osqzss/fpga/namuru/Namuru_GPL.zip !!11:01
kristianpaulas it is gpl :-)11:01
kristianpauland it came with its own documentation as well http://www.dynamics.co.nz/media/DOCUMENTS/SOFTWARE_RELATED/Namuru-GPL-port-06.pdf11:02
kristianpaulit was forked from osgps btw11:02
kristianpaulmorning too ;)11:03
kristianpaulwhy this is great??11:05
kristianpaulwell osgps uses gp2021 registers11:05
kristianpaulthat some how are like namuru one, as it is a clone from above11:05
kristianpaulbut small details.. as always came up, so this port is a must try first on milkymist than the osgps11:06
kristianpauls/try/port11:06
kristianpaulok, read you later :)11:07
whitequarkkristianpaul: were you talking to yourself?..11:26
kristianpaulwhitequark: no13:30
kristianpaulwhitequark: no, i was just droppping some words about gps stuff i'm interested and working on13:45
kristianpaulperhaps some one (like you? ;-)) get interested13:46
kristianpaulor lindi- :)13:46
kristianpaultoo13:46
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