| DocScrutinizer | whitequark: http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.pennystore/joerg900.10188 | 00:02 |
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| geza | there is a way to unblock a locked fb session on NN? | 00:05 |
| geza | precisely, I lost my terminal on NN, but I can operate via usb ethernet | 00:05 |
| Ayla | geza: gmenu2x has some code which does just that | 00:12 |
| geza | ayla: the keyboard is absolutely irresponsible | 00:15 |
| geza | ayla: I have only contact via usb | 00:15 |
| Ayla | then telnet and launch gmenu2x | 00:15 |
| Ayla | provided you have it, and it's not too old | 00:15 |
| zenlunatic | so mpd only supports wav? | 01:04 |
| emeb | mpd does .mp3 format for me. | 01:04 |
| emeb | but that's on an ubuntu x86 system. the version for ben might not have proprietary codecs compiled in... | 01:05 |
| zenlunatic | vorbis? | 01:08 |
| unclouded | I couldn't get the stock mpd in the latest image to scan any .ogg files in to its database although maybe I was doing something wrong. I wrote up some of what I found here: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Mpd | 01:12 |
| zenlunatic | fun | 01:14 |
| unclouded | the short version is that you can definitely get .ogg files playing if you build your own mpd. or you can grab this one: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/unclouded/mpd-mini_0.16.5-2_xburst.ipk | 01:17 |
| unclouded | you'll still need to patch the init file as described on the Mpd wiki page | 01:18 |
| unclouded | superb. mpd can read track titles from vorbis comments | 01:27 |
| zenlunatic | cool. didn't get a bnn to work out of the box | 01:39 |
| zenlunatic | probably when people ask me why i bought it, I'll just say "to learn" | 01:40 |
| erikkugel | As far as I know, the BNN intentionally shuns any non-open standards, so there is intentionally no MP3 support as far as I know in the official image. This was a hot topic a while ago and might have changes since. | 01:44 |
| unclouded | indeed. sorry if there's .mp3 support in that .ipk I posted earlier. I'm using .oggs with it, which I'm assuming are ok? | 01:45 |
| wolfspraul | erikkugel: no changes | 02:04 |
| wolfspraul | we want and need to keep this tainted stuff out, have to focus on the future | 02:05 |
| wolfspraul | once the mp3 patents have safely expired, I am open minded to including it, of course | 02:05 |
| wolfspraul | unclouded: please don't worry, we are doing a fair job of keeping this out practically, and you can and should feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and to help others. enough is enough. | 02:06 |
| wolfspraul | we won't let them ruin our happiness, right? :-) | 02:06 |
| wolfspraul | once in a while I go through the downloads server, chat logs etc. and remove everything that looks like mp3 :-) | 02:07 |
| wolfspraul | I'm listening to beautiful music right now, stored in a free format but the format discussion is really silly, brought to us by greed nothing else. it will go away... | 02:07 |
| wolfspraul | my take on this | 02:08 |
| unclouded | it didn't even occur to me that my .ipk could expose you to liability. I'll find out for sure if it has .mp3 support and remove it if so | 02:08 |
| wolfspraul | but please relax, I think we have a good culture here | 02:10 |
| wolfspraul | we remove this tainted crap so we can focus on the good stuff | 02:10 |
| wolfspraul | and eventually the patents expire, then life is good :-) | 02:10 |
| Action: zenlunatic hands out beers | 02:10 | |
| wolfspraul | all over the world some people have nothing better to do than to invent parasitic business model, I think that will always stay with us | 02:11 |
| wolfspraul | they come and go. mostly they don't really enjoy what they do, so it's temporary... | 02:11 |
| unclouded | ok, I've checked the .ipk and there's no .mp3 support in there, at least putting an mp3 in music_dir and doing a rescan won't convince mpd that the mp3 exists | 02:11 |
| wolfspraul | relax :-) | 02:11 |
| erikkugel | glad to hear I'm still on top of our policies :) | 02:12 |
| unclouded | has something changed with ubiattach? I'm trying to mount my old NAND data partition and I do "ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 3" and it says "cannot attach mtd3" "error 22 (Invalid argument)" | 03:47 |
| Action: zenlunatic 's BNN has shipped | 03:54 | |
| xiangfu | unclouded, are you using latest image? | 04:00 |
| unclouded | /etc/VERSION says 2011-11-13 | 04:01 |
| unclouded | mtd3 would have been formatted with the 2011-02-23 release though, if that makes any difference | 04:09 |
| whitequark | DocScrutinizer: ahh, _this_ kind of RFID | 04:28 |
| whitequark | I never heard these things called "RFID"s | 04:28 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, if there is no data important. you can try format again. | 04:29 |
| whitequark | and, erm, aren't they simple LC circuits? at least the ones I have disassembled quite certainly were (through I'm not definitely sure) | 04:29 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, I used mtd3 for long time. in every release test. | 04:29 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, so far so good. :) | 04:29 |
| unclouded | xiangfu, I can't really remember what data is on it, so I don't know for sure that I don't mind losing it | 04:30 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, what is the dmesg output? | 04:34 |
| unclouded | xiangfu, I didn't think to look before. it's: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/unclouded/ubi-dmesg.txt | 04:37 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, there is '(ECC error' | 04:39 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, I think you just format the mtd3 :) | 04:39 |
| unclouded | yes, I saw that. only a single result from the search engine regarding that error | 04:39 |
| unclouded | http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2008-April/021245.html | 04:40 |
| unclouded | and their conclusion was that it was simply worn out, which is weird because I barely used that data partition | 04:41 |
| unclouded | so I'll format mtd3 after all | 04:42 |
| xiangfu | unclouded, there is a 'mtd.nn' command for easy format and mount | 04:45 |
| unclouded | xiangfu, I'm looking at that right now | 04:45 |
| unclouded | and I'm wondering why the "-s" option to ubimkvol? does it not use the whole partition by default? ubimkvol --help doesn't explain | 04:46 |
| unclouded | ( it says "-s" is optional) | 04:46 |
| wolfspraul | puh, openscad.org is packaged neither in Debian nor Fedora | 11:12 |
| wolfspraul | seems that we are working on the cutting edge :-) | 11:13 |
| valhalla | wolfspraul: is it possible that openscad used to be problematic as far as licensing is concerned? I believe I have seen a mail on it a few days ago on some debian mailing list (regarding the resolution of said problems) | 11:14 |
| valhalla | (checking in a few minutes) | 11:14 |
| lindi- | wolfspraul: I too remember that openscad had a licensing issue | 11:16 |
| valhalla | confirmed: it was mentioned on debian-mentors, and claimed that the licensing issues had been fixed | 11:27 |
| valhalla | wolfspraul: this is the email http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/02/msg00491.html | 11:43 |
| wolfspraul | nice, thanks! | 12:23 |
| wolfspraul | but seems there's still no package? | 12:23 |
| wpwrak | hmm, sounds like a heliport around here today. there was a train crash this morning. and helicopters are still coming and going. | 16:15 |
| viric | wpwrak: I read in the newspaaper.. | 17:22 |
| valhalla | wolfspraul: there is a package, but it is still missing a debian developer to check and upload it | 17:33 |
| indistylo | Folks , Please suggest where to locate this directory modemmanager/sms-send.py file , i have already installed modemmanager, but not able to locate sms-send.py | 21:52 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | wpwrak: OUCH, 49 dead, 600 injured | 23:14 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | made it to the prime time TV news here | 23:15 |
| abushcrafterforg | How loud is the speaker? Will I hear/feel it in my pocket even in a noisy env? Is it possible to add a vibrator like the ones in mobile phones to the nano note and still be able to have a SD card in the SD card slot? | 23:18 |
| wolfspraul | vibrator will be hard unless you do major hacking | 23:19 |
| wolfspraul | the speakers are loud but 'noisy environment' can still drown it out of course, depends on how noisy it is | 23:19 |
| wpwrak | Doc_No_ACTA_zer: yeah, pretty bad. train accidents tend to be nasty. i wonder what caused it. the train just came from maintenance, so in theory it should have been in good shape | 23:23 |
| abushcrafterforg | lawn mower, a road, moter way | 23:24 |
| abushcrafterforg | A road as in catagory of road in the uk | 23:25 |
| abushcrafterforg | I can solder well. but evey thing else I am newbie. Dad knows what he is doing. | 23:26 |
| Ayla | wpwrak: it went off the rail? | 23:27 |
| Ayla | didn't watch the TV | 23:27 |
| wpwrak | Ayla: it didn't brake and crashed into the head station at i think 26 km/h. | 23:37 |
| Ayla | wow, ok | 23:37 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | wpwrak: here they said that brake defect is the suspected cause | 23:38 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | maybe stating ethanol induced human failure is a bit too embarrassing? Anyway the train ran on a stop block with full speed | 23:39 |
| wpwrak | Doc_No_ACTA_zer: seems the most likely explanation. they have the black boxes, so they should be able to see what the driver did | 23:41 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | well, they also should have double failsafe fallback brakes, and deadman switches | 23:42 |
| wpwrak | it would be a bit of an unusual day for drunkenness. we just had a long weekend (monday was a holiday), so the hangover accidents should have happened yesterday | 23:42 |
| Ayla | thanksfully it was not a high-speed train | 23:42 |
| wpwrak | there may not have been enough time for the deadman switch to react. that train probably stopped the last time just 1-2 km before. (not entirely sure - there are some on that line that have fewer stops) | 23:43 |
| wpwrak | Ayla: even commuter trains can go fast. e.g., the famous train crash in paris in 1988 (56 dead, 57 injured) was also with a commuter train. that one accelerated to 70 km/h. | 23:45 |
| Ayla | this makes me wonder what would happen with a train that goes around ~350km/h at the cruise speed | 23:47 |
| wpwrak | at such a speed, the train would probably have overrun the buffer. there's probably quite a lot of people inside the station (i've never been inside). and there's a busy avenue right afterwards, with lots of people right outside of the station. | 23:48 |
| wpwrak | Ayla: that was what express trains did a bit more than a century ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Train_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.jpg | 23:49 |
| Ayla | ok, I didn't know that one | 23:50 |
| wpwrak | ah wait ... yesterday was a holiday, too. didn't even realize :) | 23:53 |
| wpwrak | so yes, maybe there is something to the hangover theory | 23:54 |
| wpwrak | the minister of transportation helpfully pointed out that, if it had happened on yesterday's holiday, it would have been less severe. | 23:58 |
| wpwrak | and, even better, that it's the kind of accident you read about often in the news. | 23:58 |
| wpwrak | sometimes, i'm just baffled by the brilliance of our politicians | 23:59 |
| Ayla | :) | 23:59 |
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