| kyak | http://www.on-time.com/rtos-32-versus-linux.htm - is anyone in a mood to argue some of these points? I have a feeling that they are somewhat "wrong", but can't explain (to myself) why | 10:20 |
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| kyak | on-time rtos32 is some dos-compatible RTOD | 10:20 |
| kyak | s/RTOD/RTOS | 10:20 |
| kyak | and the newsgroup message they posted looks like a complete shit | 10:21 |
| kyak | but maybe someone even tried that rtos32? | 10:21 |
| kyak | they sell source, which is probably better than making it completely closed-source | 10:22 |
| kyak | probably it has even leaked by now | 10:23 |
| viric | hm I think linux has to be booted from ram, yes | 10:23 |
| viric | And I don't know how the realtime tasks work... whether the api is available or not for them | 10:24 |
| kyak | well. i'm 95% sure that there are more linux-based real-time embedded systems, than based on on-time rtos | 10:25 |
| kyak | are the developers of these systems so stupid? because according to rtos32 comparison, linux is not competitive :) | 10:26 |
| kyak | and besides... "x86" and "embedded" are sort of different worlds.. at least how i imagined it until now | 10:28 |
| mth | the issue might be that people use "real time" in very different ways | 10:41 |
| mth | often just having low latency is good enough | 10:42 |
| mth | but if you really must prove that a system will always meet its deadlines then Linux might not be the best choice | 10:42 |
| mth | for example in a car network Linux would be fine for the navigation and entertainment parts, but not suitable for the part directly involved in driving | 10:45 |
| kyak | mth: i agree.. but not that rtos32 is used anywhere is car's ECU :) it's not x86 | 11:31 |
| kyak | i can imagine it running as some automation control at a plant, probably | 11:32 |
| viric | ECU? | 11:52 |
| viric | kyak: is that what I asked yesterday? ""One 450g eCu (copper) block" | 11:52 |
| viric | kyak: I think that as embedded OS, ecos is quite popular | 11:53 |
| viric | http://ecos.sourceware.org/ | 11:53 |
| viric | embedded rtos | 11:53 |
| viric | I never heard rtos32 | 11:54 |
| viric | (which means quite little) | 11:54 |
| kyak | viric: ECU stands for Electronic (or Engine) Control Unit in automotive :) | 13:16 |
| kyak | eCos, hm | 13:17 |
| viric | ahh | 13:17 |
| viric | I've seen ecos code in two firmwares of my TV-DVB decoders | 13:18 |
| Action: kristianpaul dont trust the stats | 17:58 | |
| viric | finally I found a null-modem DB9 cable! | 18:06 |
| kristianpaul | found? | 18:08 |
| viric | I've been looking for it in boxes of cables during 30 minutes | 18:10 |
| kristianpaul | why youdint have it connected to your serial port already? :) | 18:12 |
| viric | I rarely have to use 12V serial ports | 18:21 |
| Artyom | kristianpaul: hi, are you here? | 18:30 |
| kristianpaul | yes | 18:31 |
| kristianpaul | hello! | 18:31 |
| kristianpaul | i been readng your logs | 18:31 |
| kristianpaul | and recently code :) | 18:31 |
| Artyom | Have you seen my namuru-wishbone-port on googlecode? | 18:46 |
| kristianpaul | yes | 18:46 |
| kristianpaul | one inside milkymist_gnsssdr_port right? | 18:46 |
| kristianpaul | isquite simpler than mine, i think i added troubles with the fsm... | 18:47 |
| kristianpaul | s/troubles/more lines | 18:48 |
| kristianpaul | well i based the code not in bram ;) | 18:48 |
| kristianpaul | s/based/forked | 18:48 |
| Artyom | yeah, very simple ;) Like bram. You can test program for MM SoC now ;) | 18:48 |
| kristianpaul | yup, heading to it this week | 18:49 |
| Action: kristianpaul wish can carry its M1 to all palces | 18:49 | |
| kristianpaul | btw the test program you need fix something? | 18:51 |
| kristianpaul | to use milkymist timers to measure time or such_ | 18:52 |
| kristianpaul | s/_/? | 18:52 |
| Artyom | You mean program in GPS folder? It's the same as earlier. (Some minor unimoprtant additions were made for debug purposes) | 18:53 |
| Artyom | The program is very simple. It only tries to acquire a predefined satellite (You should correct correlator_init() function) | 18:55 |
| kristianpaul | yes that one | 18:56 |
| kristianpaul | yes sure | 18:56 |
| kristianpaul | actually i fixed my code back how namuru upstream was | 19:04 |
| kristianpaul | also less issues when dealing with more functions from osgps (in order to get a fix) | 19:04 |
| qwebirc52049 | hello | 19:37 |
| qwebirc52049 | i am new here and any one can help me how to use this make file ? | 19:38 |
| Last message repeated 1 time(s). | 19:40 | |
| wolfspraul | Artyom: I had one question about your expansion thoughts. Why do you need 50-80 io pins. Why that many / which use cases? | 19:40 |
| wolfspraul | (oh sorry, should have asked on #milkymist, I can repost there or you answer here, doesn't matter much) | 19:40 |
| qwebirc52049 | i am trying to install mpg123 on my MI424WR | 19:41 |
| Jay7 | 50-80 gpio.. keyboard? :) | 19:41 |
| qwebirc52049 | any one please ... | 19:42 |
| Artyom | wolfspraul: I have alread answered half an hour ago ;) | 19:43 |
| Artyom | on milkymist channel | 19:43 |
| qwebirc52049 | Artyom | 19:44 |
| qwebirc52049 | do you know how to use make file | 19:44 |
| wolfspraul | Artyom: oh, I apologize, let me check there... | 19:45 |
| Artyom | qwebirc: sorry, I'm afraid I can not unswer on your question... I don't know/use mpg123 and MI424WR | 19:46 |
| Artyom | Or you just never used any make files? | 19:46 |
| qwebirc52049 | i compile openwrt for mu router | 19:48 |
| qwebirc52049 | and i installed asterisk 18 | 19:48 |
| qwebirc52049 | i like to install mpg123 for online stream to dump in asterisk | 19:48 |
| qwebirc52049 | so i can listen music or news | 19:48 |
| qwebirc52049 | mpg123 is not included in openwrt | 19:49 |
| qwebirc52049 | i just found make file here | 19:49 |
| Artyom | qwebirc: Sorry, I can not help you. I'm new here and I don't use things that you have mentioned... | 19:50 |
| qwebirc52049 | Thanks | 19:51 |
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