| rjeffries | Maxim part provides complete USB host, speaks SPI to whatever MCU (e.g. Ben's Ingenic SOC). $4.85 Before you ask, "No, I am not competent to design this into something that plugs into Ben's 8:10 port. But thanks for asking.;)" | 03:50 |
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| rjeffries | http://www.maxim-ic.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/3639 | 03:50 |
| akiwiguy | Hmm. | 04:07 |
| akiwiguy | My dad is an electronics engineer. And he's teaching me slowly how to lay out PCBs and wire stuff up | 04:08 |
| akiwiguy | So soon I could be handy with that stuff :P | 04:08 |
| cts_ | hello and good (european :) morning! I have at hand a nanonote which will not boot up and will not go into USB mode any more - neither by pressing U nor by shortening the USB pins on the back. could anyone here give me a hand with this, please? | 08:37 |
| xiangfu | cts_, Hi | 08:38 |
| xiangfu | good morning. | 08:39 |
| xiangfu | cts_, how you short the USB Pins? | 08:39 |
| xiangfu | cts_, what I always do is run 'watch lsusb' in one terminal. and keep trying to short the USB pins. | 08:42 |
| xiangfu | cts_, we will bring your nanonote back. :) | 08:42 |
| cts_ | sorry, my nose started bleeding :( | 08:46 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: as for the shortening; i have tried aluminum foil behind the battery and finally reverted to just using a tiny bit of solder; i tested the short to be ok. | 08:46 |
| xiangfu | cts_, oh~~ there is a HOT girl? :) | 08:46 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: no, just very, very dry office air. | 08:47 |
| xiangfu | cts_, you mean you soldering those two pins now? | 08:49 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: yes, I dropped just a tiny bit of solder. it's removed now, though andthe pads are clean / seperated again. | 08:50 |
| cts_ | separated. | 08:50 |
| xiangfu | cts_, ok. you can try to 1. remove the battery. 2. short those two pins 3. press the reset hole at the back of nanonote. | 08:51 |
| xiangfu | cts_, see if the 'watch lsusb' show 4740? | 08:51 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: no, it just shows my usb (root)-hubs and the keybord. I'v alredy tried using another port, another computer even and another cable... | 08:54 |
| cts_ | stefan_schmidt: ahh. another schmidt. ;) | 08:55 |
| stefan_schmidt | cts_: not really hard to find around here. :) | 08:55 |
| cts_ | stefan_schmidt: yes, we are aplenty. | 08:56 |
| xiangfu | cts_, if you sure those two pins are short. this maybe a hardware problem. | 09:18 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: yes, I suppose. my hardware dealer wanted to make sure I have talked to you guys before we exchange the unit. | 09:34 |
| xiangfu | cts_, you can soldering those two pins , and try again. :D. just double check. no needs battery. just soldering and press reset HOLE. | 09:41 |
| xiangfu | 1. soldering those two pins. 2. connect ben nanonote to computer 3. press the RESET HOLE. | 09:43 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: without the battery inserted or with the battery inserted? | 09:46 |
| xiangfu | wothout the battery inserted. | 09:47 |
| cts_ | opk, will do. | 09:47 |
| cts_ | ok. | 09:47 |
| xiangfu | nanonote can boot with USB power. | 09:47 |
| cts_ | there it is!! yay!! | 09:50 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: 601a:4740 (...) | 09:50 |
| xiangfu | yes. | 09:50 |
| cts_ | looks good. now I can just do a "normal" reflash, right? | 09:51 |
| xiangfu | that is nanonote in usb mode | 09:51 |
| xiangfu | cts_, yes. | 09:51 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: it's alive again. what a good way to start a day! ;) | 09:51 |
| xiangfu | cts_, now you can reflash the latest version :D | 09:52 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: everything's fine again. thank you for your support and thanks to Qi for building such a fine, error-resillient hardware! | 11:10 |
| xiangfu | cts_, thanks for buy and play nanonote. :D | 11:10 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: you are with the manufacturer, right? who would I contact for a nannonote-based audioplayer hardware the company I work for is seeking? I was planning on presenting the device beginning of next year (we do background music for hotels and cruise ships), tha hardware seems to be a good/nice fit. | 11:14 |
| xiangfu | cts_, I am a software people. Sharism is hardware manufacturer , (Qi hardware is the project name) | 11:19 |
| xiangfu | cts_, nanonote-based audio player, what is Ben Nanonote missing compare to your 'audioplayer' ? | 11:20 |
| xiangfu | Sharism is the manufacturer of Ben Nanonote. | 11:22 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: nothing. that's the beauty. I haven't tested the quality of the sound output, but adding a "real" soundcodec to the board shouldn't be that much of a problem for a company that can read the Qi designs (I can't... ;). Else it has a display, it boots fairly quickly and has a few buttons - perfect. | 11:22 |
| xiangfu | cts_, great. you can send this idea to mailing list ( http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion ). people there will give you more idea. | 11:24 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: thanks, I will do that. | 11:24 |
| xiangfu | cts_, if it only for play music. you still needs modify the system. like direct to the music player. etc. | 11:26 |
| cts_ | xiangfu: sure, but building that up from what's already there shouldn't be too much of a problem. we really don not wnt to go through the process of having someone build a custom hardware (simply because the company is not big enough and noon has any experience in this). | 11:32 |
| wpwrak | cts_: would you need to modify the case ? | 11:37 |
| cts_ | wpwrak: probably not (if we stay with the built-in audio codec) - as the device just ignores if the lid is open or closed it should be fine. | 11:38 |
| wpwrak | kewl. we don't have design control of the case, so that would have been a bit of a problem :) | 11:40 |
| wpwrak | fwiw, the SoC has a "real" ac97 audio codec. not sure if the output circuit meets your needs, though | 11:44 |
| lars_ | it is not a ac97 codec | 11:57 |
| wpwrak | hmm. does the data sheet lie then ? | 11:59 |
| wpwrak | ah, i see what you mean. only the digital side | 12:00 |
| cts_ | and exactly the audio conversion "behind" the DAC seems to be a bit too much on the consumer side of things ;) | 12:10 |
| wpwrak | you mean the analog circuit ? | 12:11 |
| lars_ | the internal codec is really crappy | 12:12 |
| wpwrak | so it's the DAC itself | 12:12 |
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| qwebirc68256 | hello | 13:25 |
| mstevens | hello | 13:26 |
| deneme | so the only way to disable boot-logo is to reinstall the modified kernel, huh? | 14:31 |
| deneme | there is no config? | 14:31 |
| C-Keen | the boot logo is compiled in | 14:31 |
| deneme | hmm | 14:31 |
| deneme | kay | 14:31 |
| C-Keen | I don't know whether it can be switched off via a command line option | 14:32 |
| deneme | I am guessing not... | 14:32 |
| C-Keen | you can try the logo.nologo option | 14:33 |
| C-Keen | logo.nologo [FB] Disables display of the built-in Linux logo. | 14:33 |
| C-Keen | This may be used to provide more screen space for | 14:33 |
| C-Keen | kernel log messages and is useful when debugging | 14:33 |
| C-Keen | kernel boot problems. | 14:33 |
| deneme | either way, I still got plenty of configuration to do. I could postpone the logo config | 14:33 |
| deneme | but, hmm | 14:33 |
| C-Keen | deneme: if you just switch it off, it is a cheap shot :) | 14:34 |
| deneme | ehh... Ill come to that later | 14:38 |
| mth | which boot logo do you mean? the very first one is in the dual boot loader, the second one is in the kernel | 14:43 |
| mth | the one in the kernel is easy to disable, it's an option in the kernel config | 14:43 |
| mth | disabling the one in the boot loader would require changing the boot loader code | 14:44 |
| mth | why do you want to disable the logo? | 14:44 |
| C-Keen | ok which HW are we talking about? | 14:45 |
| deneme | ahem, ben | 14:45 |
| mth | ah sorry, wrong channel | 14:45 |
| mth | I assumed the Dingoo boot procedure | 14:45 |
| deneme | yeah :) | 14:45 |
| C-Keen | close enough ;) | 14:46 |
| deneme | fyi, why I want to disable it is because I have to 'clear' after boot to use the console | 14:46 |
| deneme | maybe I could run a script to do that at user-login | 14:47 |
| deneme | I dunno | 14:47 |
| mth | the boot logo should disappear at some point during the boot, doesn't it? | 14:48 |
| deneme | perhaps with gui | 14:50 |
| mth | on non-X PC installs the logo is no longer there by the time the login prompt appears | 14:51 |
| mth | maybe they have something in the startup scripts for that | 14:51 |
| deneme | I dont know tbh. In a normal pc I would edit grub | 14:53 |
| deneme | Ill have to play with it a bit, I guess | 14:53 |
| deneme | watch ifconfig usb0 | 15:24 |
| deneme | sorry, wrong window | 15:24 |
| deneme | exit | 15:59 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1rc3/norruption/4/LOG: detailed log of the M1pre-rc4 tests (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/ce6a4d8 | 17:48 |
| GordonFreeman | The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It was developed by AS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba, and Sony. | 19:31 |
| GordonFreeman | n00bs will never stop creating crap | 19:31 |
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