| rjeffries | I've done a couple of orders to Seed Studio recently, small stuff such as sensors, and then yesterday a few cheap solar panels | 01:27 |
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| rjeffries | Seed has an impressive system where they automatically send reports on your order status via email. cool beans. I also ordered a Bus Pirate | 01:29 |
| wpwrak | haven't e-mail updates on order status pretty much been standard for the last 10-20 years ? :) | 01:31 |
| rjeffries | wpwrak maybe so, but Seed updates you through the process at each stage. In any case, they are easy to do business with IMO. | 04:26 |
| wpwrak | that's all that counts :) | 04:28 |
| DocAvalanche | meh, first day at waork a day off | 05:16 |
| DocAvalanche | n8 | 05:16 |
| kristianpaul | n8 | 05:22 |
| whitequark | can anyone suggest a good scope for $2000 USD? | 11:04 |
| whitequark | preferably from somewhere like China to avoid the customs as much as it possible | 11:25 |
| blogic | whitequark: channels, bandwidth, samples ... | 11:28 |
| blogic | ? | 11:28 |
| whitequark | blogic: 2 channels, definitely need 48MHz digital, best if could handle 133MHz of PCI-E | 11:53 |
| whitequark | so I guess that'd be somewhere near 300MHz | 11:54 |
| blogic | and you want to get it as cheap as possible ? | 11:54 |
| blogic | or as good as possible with max 2k ? | 11:54 |
| whitequark | well, a friend of mine has $2k from the company to buy a new scope | 11:54 |
| blogic | i have gotten good results with rigol units | 11:54 |
| blogic | they are semi pro i guess | 11:54 |
| blogic | not like a hameg or textronik | 11:55 |
| blogic | but they work | 11:55 |
| blogic | and are payable | 11:55 |
| whitequark | well, I know about 1102e, but it's only 200m | 11:55 |
| whitequark | *100m | 11:55 |
| blogic | there is a 200mhz version | 11:55 |
| whitequark | hm | 11:55 |
| blogic | i used the 50mhz version with the 100mhz hack | 11:55 |
| blogic | they work | 11:55 |
| blogic | but dont expect it to be like a hameg | 11:55 |
| whitequark | yeah, I know about the hack | 11:55 |
| whitequark | I'll get one 1152 next month | 11:55 |
| blogic | a bit off topic | 11:57 |
| blogic | the other amazing tool that i started using recently is this | 11:57 |
| blogic | http://www.saleae.com/logic/ | 11:57 |
| blogic | best 150$ i spent in several years | 11:57 |
| blogic | bit annoyed as the 16 channel version came out just after i ordered the 8 channel version | 11:58 |
| whitequark | +1 | 11:58 |
| blogic | still its a great tool and safed me several hours twice already | 11:58 |
| blogic | ok ;) | 11:58 |
| whitequark | I like that a lot too. Also, native linux support | 11:58 |
| blogic | yep | 11:58 |
| whitequark | don't need a logic analyzer now, but when will, I'll definitely go for saleae | 11:58 |
| blogic | hehe | 11:59 |
| blogic | it helped me debug spi flash drivers for openwrt | 11:59 |
| whitequark | http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000ca/ds1302ca/ | 11:59 |
| whitequark | ^ this one seems reasonably good | 11:59 |
| whitequark | and there are $500 more to spend, e.g. for delivery and bribing of customs | 12:00 |
| blogic | interseting | 12:00 |
| blogic | which country doe it get posted to ? | 12:00 |
| blogic | i mean where are you based | 12:00 |
| whitequark | russia | 12:00 |
| whitequark | and, yes, it sucks. | 12:01 |
| blogic | ah cool | 12:01 |
| blogic | what does ? | 12:01 |
| whitequark | anything, but the postal service especially does | 12:01 |
| blogic | i just wondered about the "bribing" bit ;) | 12:01 |
| blogic | ah ok ;) | 12:01 |
| whitequark | yeah | 12:01 |
| whitequark | I was dead serious | 12:01 |
| blogic | i know | 12:01 |
| wolfspraul | blogic: you contacted me I think? | 12:06 |
| wolfspraul | here I am, happy, so... what can I do for you? :-) | 12:06 |
| blogic | hrr hrr | 12:07 |
| blogic | the best part is the happy bit | 12:07 |
| blogic | i will switch to /pm if you dont mind to not flood the channel with of topic foo | 12:08 |
| wpwrak | whitequark: do you care about memory depth ? | 12:52 |
| wpwrak | whitequark: the rigol CA series are fast but have only quite limited storage | 12:52 |
| wpwrak | i.e., 5 kSa per channel: http://www.tequipment.net/RigolDS1302CA.html | 12:53 |
| wpwrak | the B series is similar: up to 200 MHz and 4 analog channels, but only 8 kSa: http://www.tequipment.net/RigolDS1204B.html | 12:54 |
| wpwrak | the D, E, C, and CD series all have deep memory. 500 kSa/channel. | 12:56 |
| wpwrak | the D and E are successors of C and CD, with a higher sample rate. C and CD sample only at 200-400 MSa/s (2/1 channel), while D/E do 500M/1G | 12:57 |
| wpwrak | C and E have two analog channels. CD and D have an additional 16 channel logic analyzer. it's not the greatest in the world, but it has its uses. | 12:59 |
| blogic | xiangfu: ping | 13:17 |
| blogic | the wpan.mk i gave you has a bug in it | 13:17 |
| xiangfu | blogic, pong | 13:17 |
| blogic | i willupdate it today | 13:18 |
| blogic | jivs found a bug | 13:18 |
| xiangfu | oh. | 13:18 |
| blogic | 16:39 < blogic> the CONFIG_IEEE802154_DRIVER=y vs CONFIG_IEEE802154_DRIVERS=y looks like the candidate for the borkage | 13:18 |
| blogic | (missing S ... DRIVER vs DRIVERS) | 13:18 |
| blogic | might want to fix it in your repo. i am not sure where jivs pulled his tree from but assume it was qi tree | 13:19 |
| blogic | xiangfu: the 2nd question is your 3.0 patches in patchwork.openwrt.org | 13:21 |
| blogic | lars_: are you doing those patches ? | 13:21 |
| xiangfu | blogic, those two patches is out date. I think I should send the new patches. | 13:23 |
| blogic | ok | 13:23 |
| Artyom | Hi Kristianpaul | 13:23 |
| blogic | i will drop them from patchwork in that case if that is ok with you | 13:24 |
| xiangfu | blogic, yes. sure. | 13:25 |
| blogic | k | 13:26 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: wpan.mk: fix typo thanks blogic and jivs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/fdd8393 | 13:29 |
| blogic | xiangfu: thx | 13:30 |
| blogic | xiangfu: there is one more bug that i hope to track down today | 13:30 |
| kristianpaul | Artyom, hi | 14:14 |
| jivs | Hi blogic | 15:21 |
| jivs | Have you had time to try for the missing modules | 15:22 |
| blogic | not yet | 15:23 |
| blogic | i am hunting a gcc bug | 15:23 |
| jivs | ok | 15:23 |
| jivs | i think you mentioned we can try to manullay insmod the missing modules. | 15:24 |
| jivs | If you guide me I will try that.. | 15:24 |
| blogic | ok | 15:25 |
| blogic | insmod /lib/modules/2.6.XY/*.ko | 15:25 |
| blogic | call that like 5 times | 15:25 |
| blogic | you will see errors | 15:25 |
| blogic | but eventually all modules will be included | 15:25 |
| blogic | its a crude and brutal way of doing it | 15:25 |
| blogic | :D | 15:25 |
| blogic | but it will work | 15:25 |
| jivs | that on the toolchain? or ben | 15:26 |
| blogic | ben | 15:26 |
| jivs | okay, but mine is 3.0.0 , i think that normal isn;t it as i have new kernel.. | 15:27 |
| blogic | yes | 15:27 |
| blogic | insmod /lib/modules/3.0.0/*.ko | 15:27 |
| jivs | insmod: can't insert '/lib/modules/3.0.0/af_802154.ko': File exists | 15:28 |
| jivs | giving the same error each time... tried 5-6 times | 15:28 |
| jivs | i think it accepted the spi_atben.ko one, | 15:30 |
| blogic | so they are all there now | 15:31 |
| blogic | lsmod please and pastebin the result | 15:31 |
| jivs | ok | 15:32 |
| jivs | lsmod :- http://pastebin.com/z6h85XWC | 15:33 |
| blogic | spi_atben is missing | 15:33 |
| blogic | do a insmod on that file and see if you get an error | 15:34 |
| blogic | (potentially call "dmesg" to see it) | 15:34 |
| jivs | ok | 15:35 |
| jivs | [ 290.240000] spi_atben spi_atben: Setting up ATBEN SPI | 15:36 |
| jivs | [ 290.250000] spi spi32766.0: ATBEN ready for mischief (IRQ 164) | 15:36 |
| jivs | spi_atben now appears on lsmod | 15:37 |
| blogic | cool | 15:38 |
| blogic | in theory a ifconfig -a should now show you some results | 15:39 |
| blogic | this is how far i got with my setup last week :D | 15:39 |
| blogic | did not get any further | 15:39 |
| jivs | yes, hardwpan0 is there | 15:41 |
| blogic | hmmm | 15:42 |
| blogic | not sure then | 15:42 |
| jivs | what interface did u got? | 15:43 |
| blogic | i used a atusb dongle | 15:44 |
| blogic | and i cant recall what it was called | 15:44 |
| jivs | okay | 15:45 |
| jivs | not sure but it needs to create some kind of tunnel as well.. | 15:47 |
| jivs | anyway, it a step forward, i will play with this and report here if any progress... | 15:48 |
| jivs | thanks blogic | 15:48 |
| whitequark | wpwrak: yeah, thanks for the comments, I'll think about it | 16:34 |
| jivs | blogic, I am comparing this new ben with another ben which has werner's hacked kernel and dirtpan installed | 16:37 |
| jivs | i am wondering if we will still need those IZ commands from zigbee to get dirtpan working.. | 16:37 |
| jivs | when i do iz assoc on the new ben, it says address registered. | 16:38 |
| jivs | but the dirtpan command fails with error can't bind 802154 device... | 16:38 |
| blogic | no idea | 16:55 |
| blogic | you are now further in your venture than i am | 16:55 |
| blogic | :D | 16:55 |
| blogic | however i just fixed my gcc bug :D | 16:55 |
| jivs | ok cool | 16:55 |
| jivs | i will continue trying it, lets see how far i can go :-) | 16:57 |
| wpwrak | DocScrutinizer: hey, how was day 1 ? | 22:39 |
| wpwrak | kyak: btw, an idea for qi-bot: it could look for s/pattern/text/ and do the editing for us :) | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | gleitzeit, ST-E hatte heute keine zeit fuer ein empfangscommitee | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-P | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1 day in debit already, on my worktime account | 22:41 |
| wpwrak | funny :) | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | now wondering if I find some sleep before tomorrow morning | 22:44 |
| wpwrak | why not ? | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | I get strangely excited | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | and that doesn't help going to sleep at a time so early I could awake at the time I usually fall asleep | 23:31 |
| PiLeS | OK I have a thought for you; should keep you awake all night :D | 23:37 |
| PiLeS | Why does the xburst toolchain has to be bigger than the Ben's NAND? | 23:37 |
| PiLeS | Now you try to sleep :P | 23:38 |
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