| Action: kristianpaul reading about o11s | 00:38 | |
| kristianpaul | ah.. nothing new to the hw side :( | 00:41 |
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| wpwrak | o11s ? | 00:42 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: o11s.org | 00:42 |
| kristianpaul | some body asked me about iot today and i have no word to answer :) | 00:42 |
| wpwrak | ah, mesh. probably boring :) | 00:44 |
| kristianpaul | yeah :) | 00:45 |
| kristianpaul | well, make alternatives networks to the internet/gms is a way to go, but.. based on what we already know about wifi well.. | 00:49 |
| kristianpaul | but i could be wrong | 00:49 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: http://cozybit.com/our-projects/embedded-networking/mobile-ipv6/ dont sound you familiar what they said? | 02:49 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: yeah, vaguely familiar :) probably still centered around that mesh, though. so of questionable value. i don't quite buy the "flat mesh" meme. i can see the use of a two-layer mesh, with one layer the access and the other the interconnect between local area nodes, but that's usually not what people have in mind. | 03:25 |
| wpwrak | well, the "flat" mesh could also make sense in cases where have plenty of power. the usual example is a group of tanks traveling in the desert. as your nodes get smaller, power becomes more and more an issue. i don't quite buy the "mesh your mobile phone" idea. not before batteries increase their energy density by maybe a factor for 10. | 03:28 |
| wpwrak | another niche there a flat mesh makes sense are very low-traffic networks. but again, that's not what the average user is interested in. | 03:30 |
| wpwrak | so meshes are often solutions intended for military or industrial uses hyped for consumer devices | 03:30 |
| wpwrak | now what could possibly be wrong with that picture :) | 03:31 |
| kristianpaul | (traffic) yes the problem of the commons i guess | 03:34 |
| wpwrak | heh, in a way yes :) | 03:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf/eval.pl: process both programs (frame and vertex) and dump all assigned-to fixed registers (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/b3796c8 | 06:23 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf/: calculate effective register allocation and how it in comparison table (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/c5df76a | 06:23 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf/tabulate: added HTML mode with highlighting (-h) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/69cfc40 | 06:23 |
| tuxbrain | mmm interesting tutorial :) about implement arduino on FPGA http://pepevi.blogspot.com/2011/09/tutorial-emulacionsimulacion-de-arduino_16.html | 06:39 |
| tuxbrain | in spanish | 06:39 |
| wpwrak | aha, they also discovered the potential of FPGAs. nice :) next challenge: do a real cpu ;-) | 06:41 |
| viric | there is an rtl for arduino? | 08:39 |
| tuxbrain | viric yes http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=36_68&product_id=511 | 08:42 |
| viric | you mean RTC | 08:42 |
| viric | :) | 08:42 |
| tuxbrain | ops :P | 08:43 |
| viric | tuxbrain: sóc a moscou, vaig quedar amb en kyak fa dos dies :) | 08:43 |
| viric | tuxbrain: m'ha regalat una plaqueta ubb | 08:43 |
| viric | tuxbrain: és molt trempat. | 08:44 |
| tuxbrain | :) espero que le hayas dado un abrazo de oso , que sea de mi parte retroactivo :) | 08:44 |
| viric | haha | 08:44 |
| tuxbrain | hombre eso se avisa :), has hecho fotos? | 08:45 |
| viric | hm no :D | 08:45 |
| tuxbrain | vas a tener una de las ubb con mas quilometros a cuestas :P | 08:45 |
| tuxbrain | que es rtl? | 08:46 |
| tuxbrain | ah un fichero vhdl!!! | 08:48 |
| tuxbrain | en el link que he puesto antes lo mencionan http://pepevi.blogspot.com/2011/09/tutorial-emulacionsimulacion-de-arduino_16.html | 08:52 |
| whitequark | afaik, there is an avr vhdl ip core (it has been around for quite a long time), and that emulator is based on it | 08:53 |
| wpwrak | tuxbrain: how's the spi going ? | 09:00 |
| tuxbrain | I'm seting up the atduino in slave mode based on this tutorial http://www.rocketnumbernine.com/2009/07/03/using-spi-on-an-avr-3/ , then I will retouch to be able to work with your code , compile your code and cross finguers that something happens | 09:02 |
| wpwrak | good :) in the worst case, at least a cursing tuxbrain will happen :) | 09:02 |
| qi-bot | The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-09212011-0501/ | 09:06 |
| xiangfu__ | the linux 3.0 image ^ | 09:06 |
| tuxbrain | heheeheh, without programing the arduino at all, using spiio on ben , is emiting (pin13 led reacts as do when using avrdude) and it read garbage, so somthing is happens :P now let make that that something is the somthing I want :P | 09:18 |
| wpwrak | (something happens) great ! ;) | 09:20 |
| tuxbrain | pin 13 (the led) is the SCK pin in arduino also , so I think is good news :) | 09:23 |
| tuxbrain | for the logs and courious the Arduino SPI library I will use is that one http://code.google.com/p/rocketnumbernine/downloads/list | 09:24 |
| wpwrak | seems straightforward enough | 09:28 |
| tuxbrain | I hope | 09:31 |
| wpwrak | :) | 09:32 |
| wpwrak | the evil day star is rising. time for a nap ... | 09:33 |
| tuxbrain | dream with MOSI MISO SOMI MOIS SOMI etc | 09:34 |
| Jay7 | hm | 11:50 |
| Action: Jay7 flashed 2011-08-27 image | 11:50 | |
| Jay7 | keys are behaving strangely in gmenu2x | 11:50 |
| Jay7 | R is not working | 11:51 |
| Jay7 | so only L is usable | 11:51 |
| Ayla | R/L are for switching the tabs? | 11:51 |
| Jay7 | yes | 11:51 |
| Jay7 | as I understand | 11:51 |
| Jay7 | and fonts are fuzzy.. | 11:52 |
| Jay7 | or it may be my NN's screen | 11:52 |
| Ayla | I did remove the need of the Y and X (on gp2x) buttons on gmenu2x | 11:52 |
| Ayla | but I didn't touch the L/R buttons so they should be working fine | 11:52 |
| Jay7 | hm.. any mount helper? | 12:02 |
| Jay7 | or should I mount my SD by hands? :) | 12:03 |
| Jay7 | ah.. that was broken card | 12:54 |
| Jay7 | good one mounted automagically | 12:54 |
| Jay7 | sh$t.. no mp3 decoder | 12:56 |
| viric | is it me, or w3m, lynx, elinks, links2, are all leaving margins without text at the left and the right of the page, in the terminals? | 13:08 |
| Jay7 | open hardware/software is so open :( | 13:21 |
| Jay7 | no wifi, no mp3.. | 13:22 |
| kristianpaul | tuxbrain: learning HDL, very nice !! | 14:55 |
| kristianpaul | viric: new ubb!! nice :) | 15:00 |
| kristianpaul | that rememnber i that vga out working for next month floss related event | 15:00 |
| zoltanh7211 | Hi guys | 15:21 |
| kristianpaul | hello | 15:22 |
| zoltanh7211 | I'm preparing to hold a talk about Nanonote and Milkymist at Szeged Hungary Software Freedom Day | 15:22 |
| zoltanh7211 | and I would like to have some background story of both devel platform | 15:23 |
| zoltanh7211 | if possible | 15:23 |
| kristianpaul | had you read both nanonote and milkymist wikipedia articles already? | 15:23 |
| zoltanh7211 | kristianpaul: yes | 15:23 |
| kristianpaul | I think they have some basic background, but if still not fill your needs feel free to ask | 15:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | ola`, what's new? :-) | 15:24 |
| zoltanh7211 | I think it's enough to know what was the new basic idea - or the origin | 15:25 |
| zoltanh7211 | and the year if possible | 15:25 |
| kristianpaul | well i think make, use sell copyleft hardware | 15:25 |
| Last message repeated 1 time(s). | 15:26 | |
| kristianpaul | oops | 15:26 |
| kristianpaul | milkymist is think started by 2005, i thik ther are some related blog post in lekernel.net blog | 15:26 |
| kristianpaul | afaik he is not here right now to ask more | 15:27 |
| zoltanh7211 | and the nanonote? | 15:27 |
| kristianpaul | zoltanh7211: about qi check this post //www.openmobilefree.net/?p | 15:27 |
| kristianpaul | qi/nanonote yes | 15:28 |
| kristianpaul | http://www.openmobilefree.net/?p=130 | 15:28 |
| zoltanh7211 | Thx Kristianpaul | 15:28 |
| zoltanh7211 | 2009 júl 14 | 15:29 |
| zoltanh7211 | thx | 15:29 |
| kristianpaul | may be lars can add something? i just mets this projects 1 year and a half ago, | 15:29 |
| wpwrak | this is a very rough timeline a draw up about a year ago: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/tmp/timeline.pdf | 15:30 |
| zoltanh7211 | oh thanks | 15:31 |
| wpwrak | ah, and here's a more accurate list of dates, especially M1: | 15:31 |
| wpwrak | http://pastebin.com/2i9QE4b6 | 15:32 |
| wpwrak | it's interesting to note that most of the predictions didn't come true :) | 15:33 |
| zoltanh7211 | btw about the milkymist - why VJ machine had been the target? Why this was the base idea | 15:34 |
| zoltanh7211 | ? | 15:34 |
| wpwrak | e.g, Xue got unceremoniously buried, we still don't have a ya and even less a ya-mm, etc. | 15:35 |
| zoltanh7211 | thx | 15:35 |
| wpwrak | (m1) probably because sebastien thought it would be a cool idea :) | 15:35 |
| zoltanh7211 | :) | 15:35 |
| zoltanh7211 | I will add this to the slide :) | 15:35 |
| kristianpaul | he was tired of carying its PC at 6am or soemthing | 15:36 |
| kristianpaul | as i remenber he coded an app fore VJing or similar, but i get he noticed soem constraights :) | 15:36 |
| zoltanh7211 | thx | 15:37 |
| kristianpaul | thars ina slide from him. | 15:37 |
| kristianpaul | let me find better source, i dont trust my minf for thid | 15:37 |
| zoltanh7211 | ok, I'll wait | 15:37 |
| kristianpaul | zoltanh7211: http://lekernel.net/presentations/ one of this it is | 15:38 |
| zoltanh7211 | Checking | 15:38 |
| kristianpaul | remenber that of caryinf the pc adn 4 am, thas the slide ! | 15:38 |
| kristianpaul | i guess/hope :) | 15:38 |
| wpwrak | ah yes, he mentioned the joy of carrying PCs around :) | 15:39 |
| wpwrak | mobile computing, the hard way :) | 15:39 |
| zoltanh7211 | I want also turn nanonote into an portable tabletpc that could be an "smartphone" and desn't need too much modifications | 15:41 |
| kristianpaul | had you read werner talk from fsil first? :-) | 15:41 |
| kristianpaul | fsil** | 15:42 |
| kristianpaul | fisl*** | 15:42 |
| kristianpaul | argh | 15:42 |
| zoltanh7211 | :) | 15:42 |
| zoltanh7211 | nope but I will | 15:42 |
| kristianpaul | really, there is a video, very worth to wacth before your presentation i'm sure | 15:42 |
| kristianpaul | zoltanh7211: http://gibson.softwarelivre.org/static/2011/high/sala41a/sala41a-high-201106301300.ogv | 15:48 |
| zoltanh7211 | Thx Kristianpaul | 15:53 |
| kristianpaul | DocScrutinizer: hello | 16:02 |
| kristianpaul | Mya be you want to check the ogv link above | 16:03 |
| Freemor | Thanks for posting the link to the video | 17:32 |
| Jay7 | hehe.. nn show me WSoD | 22:24 |
| wpwrak | Wicked Screen of Depravity ? see, that's what you wouldn't get on those "clean" iPhones ;-) | 22:41 |
| Jay7 | White Screen of Death :) | 22:49 |
| Jay7 | battery is over | 22:49 |
| Jay7 | now charging | 22:49 |
| Ayla_ | hello | 23:13 |
| Ayla_ | anyone familiar with UBI? | 23:13 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Backlight: use different sysfs name for NanoNote and Dingoo. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/b997485 | 23:50 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Call deinit() method on exit. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/53a73ca | 23:50 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Corrected name of USB power supply device. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/0acbd35 | 23:50 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Minor cleanup: group handle init code together. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/799bb13 | 23:50 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Minor cleanup: better usage of fscanf. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/84ec66c | 23:50 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Use existing brightness value instead of overriding it. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/7a97822 | 23:50 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed per-application brightness setting. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/e73a8d0 | 23:50 |
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