#qi-hardware IRC log for Tuesday, 2011-09-06

qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/mech/Makefile: updated board location for #2 face plate run (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/d39fbee07:22
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/mech/front.fpd: reduced width from 104 to 103.6 mm, LED hole from 6.9 to 6.2 mm (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/1717be807:22
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/fw/: make loop use all front panel elements; set CH1/2 opto to open-drain (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/149be2907:22
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/LOG: updated with latest results (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f595b7107:22
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/BOOKSHELF: added the BAS16WT flyback diode (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/c90fa3b07:22
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/fw/: added EP0 commands; main loop now toggles (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/c4b1dd407:22
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/tool/: basic labsw control utility (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/e98ea2b07:22
ps2chiperyo wolfspraul07:22
wpwrakhmm, some stuff has piled up :)07:24
rejonha07:32
wpwrakrejon: btw, in terms of logo style, is what we've cooked up so far enough for what you need ?07:42
wpwrakbleech07:43
optimisticAny special trick to getting dingux software o work on the Ben? Everything I've tried has failed in one way or another (usually seg faults).11:24
Aylathe compatibility should be the same than with opendingux11:27
Freemorcould it be lack of memory probs? do dingux machines have more then 32MB11:29
Freemorif so some swap might help11:29
Aylait wouldn't segfault then11:29
Action: Freemor hasn't had a chance to play with the Dingux stuff yet. (been too busy with frotz :) )11:32
wejpthe A320 has 32 MB of RAM just like the Ben, so that shouldn't be the problem11:32
optimisticFrotz sounds fun on the Ben, any recommendations? Or other ideas about Dingux?11:38
Aylayou could try those ones: http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingux-releases/zx81%27s-emulators-for-opendingux/11:39
AylaI believe they will work on the Ben without issues11:39
Freemorone sec moving sdlroids to my BNN to try..11:43
Freemorsdlroids works11:45
optimisticJust tested the PC Engine emulator from Ayla's link and it seems to work.11:46
qi-botThe build has FAILED, see log here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-09062011-0325/11:52
DocScrutinizerhttp://www.cymbet.com/products/enerchip-overview.php12:13
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system add recently new packages tig, txt2tags (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c8dae9e13:11
lekernelWhen evaluating EnerChip Solid State Batteries for your designs, it is important to review the Effective Capacity (EC) of each device. Since EnerChips can be charge cycled many thousands of times, an EnerChip has a similar energy storage equivalency per volume of much larger coin cell batteries. For example, the 50uAh EnerChip CBC3150 is rechargeable 5000 times at a 10% depth of discharge to 80% of rated capacity. This yields an EC of13:13
lekernel 25mAh using the conservative datasheet charge cycle specifications for this device. Therefore, the 10x smaller footprint EnerChip has the same effective capacity per unit volume of a much larger problematic coin cell battery.13:13
lekerneluhm13:13
lekernelthis sounds a bit like number manipulation, no?13:13
lekernel"10x more energy density per volume! oh, yeah, I forgot, when recharged regularly" ...13:14
wpwrakyeah, i couldn't quite figure out why anyone would want to use these critters. they seem to be perfectly useless.13:17
lekernelfor small RTCs?13:17
lekerneloh, and "Powering Internet of Things" of course :-)13:18
wpwrakdunno. i once did the calculations and they still fell short of a similar primary cell.13:19
lekernelthough it doesn't explain how you are supposed to drive an ethernet cable or a wifi antenna on a 50uAh 3.8V battery13:19
wpwrakyes yes, new hypes need new snake oil ;-)13:19
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: feeds.conf: update to release revision (release_2011-08-27) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9432ee813:20
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: data: nanonote: links: add download-dir (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/17bb93814:05
solrize_50 uah could retain critical volatile data in some device while you change the main battery.  main application i can think of would be security keys since anything else could be written to flash.14:15
aisa.i coi ro do14:30
aisaHow do I quit out of qemu and/or access a terminal?14:31
aisaI figured out how to access the terminal by using the wiki docs.  Still don't know how to quit gmenu2x.14:33
aisaqemu was a typo, above, I meant gmenu2x.14:33
C-Keenaisa: I usually switch to a different console (before I commented out the entry in ttys)14:35
aisathank you, excellent.14:36
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/: quick hack to boot an M1 with the "regular" bitstream (from NOR) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/87aa1e714:37
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/boot.bit: removed generated file, oops (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2ef6c7e14:39
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files mtd.nn silent u-boot (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5b8344f14:41
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot-xburst: enable-silent-console.patch (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2e876ca14:45
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot silent console (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/6e8950514:45
aisayay!  Two NanoNotes flashed to the latest firmware.14:58
C-Keenaisa: I have decided not to start gmenu2x as it does not do anything useful for me14:59
Action: aisa nods14:59
C-Keenaisa: this comes at a price, like writing your own automount stuff14:59
C-Keenfor the microsd14:59
aisaI agree, I like booting right into the terminal, that's what I want when I boot my Nano.14:59
aisaI boot from microSD to do the upgrade,15:00
aisameaning I got myself into gmenu2x a bit by surprise while doing the upgrade.15:00
C-KeenI wonder whether one could deploy the kernel as a bootlet so to get rid of uboot and to speed up boot time a bit but that's probably not worth the hassle15:01
aisaI barely keep up with development on this thing as it is, yeah.15:01
C-Keenaisa: I still need to port chicken15:01
aisaI used to keep a copy of OpenWRT all ready to go, so I could compile things; make changes; &c.15:01
aisaBut it kept getting diddled with. :-/15:02
C-Keenheh15:02
aisaI'd really like chicken on this device.15:02
aisaI got stopped there for lack of a compiler.15:02
C-Keenme too15:02
aisaworking compiler*15:02
C-Keenaisa: well it should work with the sdk's toolchain15:02
C-Keenbut I need to set up a linux machine for that15:02
C-Keenqemu is too slow for me15:02
C-Keen(with openbsd's kqemu)15:03
aisathat actually turrns out to be my biggest problem, heh.  I have an OpenBSD box and a Mac, but no Linux box, save one running in VMWare, and that just doesn't cut it for fiddling with devices.15:03
aisaman, bitch bitch bitch I say.15:03
C-Keensame here15:03
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/Makefile: run UrJTAG in quiet mode (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2c896d815:10
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/torture/: quick and dirty power-cycling test loop (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/96a5dd315:10
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/mkboot: added comments with pointers to information sources (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f3b289415:30
Freemor /buffer purge15:38
Freemord'oh15:38
crossblaimhi20:14
ps2chiperhi20:14
crossblaimtrying to download the latest firmware from http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/latest/ and it's slow as hell20:16
crossblaimany mirrors?20:16
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/: moved explanation from mkboot to README and added more details (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/bcd12fe21:55
wpwrakhmm, somehow TI are a little smarter with their spam than STM. do they really think i'll fire up a web browser to read that HTML gibberish ?23:16
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/LOG: labsw occasionally doesn't do what it's told; described remedies (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/17ec8fa23:34
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