kristianpaul | who like cats? | 02:50 |
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kristianpaul | check this coming from #homecmos http://i.imgur.com/vaUXG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Si3XY.png | 02:50 |
kristianpaul | 21:27 < azonenberg> 20um square pixels | 02:51 |
kristianpaul | http://i.imgur.com/uPN5h.jpg :-D | 03:00 |
kristianpaul | rejon: look that!, homebrew cmos | 03:00 |
rejon | huh? | 03:01 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: thanks a lot for helping with the news btw! | 03:24 |
kristianpaul | phew... write take time | 03:40 |
wolfspraul | :-) | 03:43 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: I would have never thought :-) | 03:43 |
wolfspraul | actually one very important reason we need to write good news is also to establish a history for our project, which you can see quite nicely at http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/News | 03:44 |
kristianpaul | haha, now i understand you every month.. | 03:44 |
wolfspraul | yes it's terribly time consuming | 03:44 |
wolfspraul | especially to verify the facts, to find good reference URLs, and to write a short and readable headline | 03:45 |
wolfspraul | oh, and to find nice pictures or even videos ideally | 03:45 |
wolfspraul | to clarify their license, convert or upload them into the wiki, and finally embed :-) | 03:45 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: it's very important that we spend some time on really good reference URLs | 03:45 |
wolfspraul | so the news can serve as a starting point to many other related projects, ideas, plans, success stories, failure stories, etc. | 03:46 |
wolfspraul | easier said than done though ;-) So I'm seriously happy that you help! | 03:46 |
kristianpaul | btw namuru core is stabilized now in milkymist, i'm working on port or write a basic algorythm to get telemtry from sige.. | 03:46 |
wolfspraul | you should post some things about that too | 03:46 |
kristianpaul | k | 03:47 |
wolfspraul | I don't think namuru or osgps were _ever_ mentioned in the news | 03:47 |
kristianpaul | hum... | 03:47 |
wolfspraul | but even those names, the URLs to their homepages, and what this is is good news and very important for copyleft hardware | 03:47 |
wolfspraul | you agree? | 03:47 |
kristianpaul | yes | 03:47 |
wolfspraul | because we don't want to have a news item one day "super great Openstreetmap contributor device available in shop soandso for xx USD" | 03:48 |
kristianpaul | okay will that tomorrow at lunch, also document a bit how integratio was made... | 03:48 |
wolfspraul | and a link to a zip file containing Eagle schematics :-) | 03:48 |
kristianpaul | i have lot of private mails, need to be converted in proper pages.. | 03:48 |
wolfspraul | don't try to move it to the 'one big cleanup and documentation day', because that day will never come | 03:48 |
kristianpaul | no no | 03:48 |
wolfspraul | so instead, throw little snippets at clueless followers like us, for our enlightenment :-) | 03:49 |
kristianpaul | hhah | 03:49 |
wolfspraul | the news format also forces you to think like that, to extract one tidbit/headline | 03:49 |
kristianpaul | if you said so, | 03:49 |
wolfspraul | well it's not easy, you need to extract the news and think how to explain it to others. just as you said it's hard to write those news posts... | 03:50 |
wolfspraul | but that's necessary if we want to pull people into the process, not just have them admire the results | 03:50 |
kristianpaul | (snippets) well, seems osgps move the code for "driving" the gp2021-like chip to a linux module... i'll start checking that... | 03:50 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: so I think even somethnig like this would be great: 'Kristian Paul discovered the namuru GPS ... which may help in his free stack. [url] [url]' | 03:51 |
wolfspraul | because that provides entry/followup points for curious folks | 03:52 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: here's werner's unbeatable quote "Create opportunities to join and actively seek participation" | 03:53 |
kristianpaul | dicovered... well... not that i liked too much | 03:53 |
wolfspraul | that's what such a news item helps with | 03:53 |
wolfspraul | well sure, but post those snippets so we can follow... | 03:53 |
kristianpaul | i mean no discover it, because i actually was told about it at first place | 03:53 |
kristianpaul | post snippets where? (i get a bit confused) | 03:54 |
kristianpaul | s/get/got | 03:54 |
kristianpaul | correct place for snippets is ML i think | 03:55 |
kristianpaul | ahm, you mean news.. | 03:55 |
wolfspraul | yes, news item | 04:07 |
wolfspraul | just add a * reminder | 04:07 |
wolfspraul | at the month's end, we can decide whether to remove it or to write it nicely with source URL, picture, etc. | 04:07 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: maybe you were 'told' about namuru, but that still means you 'discovered' it, no? :-) You can use 'told' if you like that better, I picked 'discover' because it sounds more exciting (to me)... | 04:08 |
kristianpaul | under milkymist right? | 04:10 |
kristianpaul | well, of course xD run on ir.. | 04:10 |
akiwiguy | I just realized something - I'm at the top of the userlist :P | 04:12 |
kristianpaul | hum? | 04:13 |
wolfspraul | akiwiguy: that's cool! | 04:14 |
wolfspraul | rejon: you didn't understand that cat picture? | 04:14 |
akiwiguy | :D | 04:15 |
wolfspraul | it's Andrew's DIY semiconductor lab | 04:15 |
akiwiguy | Darnit I need $99usd | 04:15 |
wolfspraul | first goal is (or was) to replicate the Intel 4004 in his lab | 04:15 |
wolfspraul | akiwiguy: to buy a NanoNote!? | 04:15 |
akiwiguy | I still haven't managed to get enough money for my nanonote - it's been like 6 months of saving | 04:16 |
akiwiguy | wolfspraul: :D Orc | 04:16 |
akiwiguy | Of course* | 04:16 |
akiwiguy | Darn autocorrect. | 04:16 |
akiwiguy | If I had a nanonote it would be using Ben-wpan and dirtpan and I would be using irssi on that | 04:17 |
akiwiguy | Instead of having to use an iPad. | 04:17 |
wolfspraul | aha, the bot showed who's in charge here... | 04:17 |
akiwiguy | xD | 04:18 |
wolfspraul | akiwiguy: you save as hard as we work on this thing, at least that's a match already :-) | 04:18 |
akiwiguy | :D | 04:18 |
akiwiguy | Does the nanonote have a working python port? | 04:18 |
wolfspraul | I'm pretty sure it does | 04:18 |
akiwiguy | Cool, then I can use it as a Na'vi on-the-go translator too :D | 04:19 |
wolfspraul | I saw xiangfu mentioning some python bug when testing the latest image, but that will be fixed for sure. | 04:19 |
wolfspraul | and in the current official image I would be surprised if it didn't work | 04:20 |
akiwiguy | Ugh. | 04:23 |
akiwiguy | I hate being in New Zealand. Shipping here is expensive, exchange rates, etc. | 04:26 |
akiwiguy | And being 14 makes it even worse because I can't get a job so I have to rely on my parents for money | 04:27 |
wolfspraul | akiwiguy: do you have a strong Linux/free software scene you are part of there? any lugs? | 04:32 |
wolfspraul | any places you think could be interested in the Milkymist One video synthesizer (that thing is even more expensive thought at 499 USD) | 04:33 |
wolfspraul | I remember there was one pretty cool blog I followed for a while, out of New Zealand. One sec... | 04:33 |
wolfspraul | ah yes, Michael from http://seabright.co.nz/blog/ | 04:35 |
akiwiguy | wolfspraul: I'm a member of 2 lugs | 04:39 |
akiwiguy | But i don't know if there would be that much interest in MM1 | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | akiwiguy: nice! Get some of the members there to help us with NanoNote hacking, or Linux on Milkymist One. | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | it depends on how you look at it [m1] | 04:43 |
akiwiguy | It's a nice device | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | first we focus on making a great video synthesizer, but you can also see it as a general purpose computing platform | 04:43 |
akiwiguy | The SoC seems like a great platform | 04:43 |
akiwiguy | 04:43 | |
wolfspraul | there's a lot missing to go in that direction, but good Linux (kernel) hackers could help a lot to fulfill this dream | 04:44 |
wolfspraul | that's why I think a LUG may still be a good place to bring it up and discuss it, even if it only generates a few more leads or blog posts/tweets. | 04:44 |
akiwiguy | I could bring it up on the lug's irc channel | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | the same is true for ben-wpan of course, it doesn't even need a NanoNote since you can see it from a notebook (USB) perspective only if you like | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | well we need to spread the word, for sure :-) | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | same thing about ben-wpan - great opportunity for significant progress in the Linux kernel | 04:46 |
kristianpaul | had any one here code something to the ISA bus? | 05:12 |
roh | ola | 05:15 |
larsc | ISA was long before my time | 05:15 |
Action: roh finished the first 3 buttons!!1! ;) | 05:15 | |
roh | kristianpaul: yes. sure. | 05:15 |
roh | inb/outb | 05:15 |
roh | see parport programming documentation.. it only changed addresses and access methods when it became pci | 05:16 |
roh | pci is usually mmio (map some address, do read/write there) | 05:17 |
rjeffries | tuxbrain this will be of interest to you, as you were looking for Arduino that might be able to talk to wpwrak ATVen ATusb | 05:17 |
rjeffries | https://github.com/maniacbug/contiki-avr-zigduino/wiki | 05:17 |
roh | isa usually pio | 05:17 |
kristianpaul | ah, same as parallel port, nice | 05:17 |
wolfspraul | rjeffries: you were looking for me the other day. What can I do for you? | 05:18 |
rjeffries | Zigduion is about $70 that includes teh radio | 05:18 |
rjeffries | wolfspraul I was only saying "hi" | 05:18 |
wolfspraul | and I thought you wanted to order your Ben finally... oh well :-) | 05:18 |
kristianpaul | ;-) | 05:18 |
rjeffries | oh, and I see you may need an "armchair General." reporting as ordered, Sir | 05:19 |
rjeffries | ;) | 05:19 |
Action: roh wishes for a fast xyz robot with a vacuum-gripper and some easy to train ocr to do the 'glueing' | 05:30 | |
roh | one would still need to peel off tape etc, but the nasty part could be automatized | 05:31 |
rjeffries | wpwrak i've been busy elsewhere, so have not folowed recent ATben ATusb news. I think Ben to Ben is working with DirtPan. How about ATusb to ATben or ATusb to ATusb? | 05:36 |
qi-bot | The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-07242011-0213/ | 05:39 |
wpwrak | rjeffries has this maddening habit of firing off some questions and then disconnecting instants after ... | 08:04 |
akiwiguy | Lol | 08:05 |
wpwrak | wolfspraul: did you see this one ? http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/BGH-Nutzung-fremder-Marken-im-Rahmen-von-Adword-Werbung-ist-zulaessig-1284660.html | 08:22 |
wpwrak | wolfspraul: maybe they're getting a bit more relaxed about trademarks :) | 08:23 |
qi-bot | [commit] Ayla: Create the "sections" user directory if required, when creating a new link. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4636a84 | 10:08 |
kristianpaul | (pci mmio) hum this is harmfurlly interesting :-) | 10:41 |
qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: pkgology/1g-monadic: additional package for single-input 1G chips (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2054148 | 10:58 |
qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/rc3/gates/rst.sch: removed R60, fixed right-hand circuit, added titles (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/282e447 | 10:58 |
kristianpaul | one of the nice things about getting early from bed, is watch the dawn :) | 11:05 |
kodein | that is mostly impossible for me most of the year, either dawn is way too early, or it's a few hours into regular working hours | 11:11 |
wpwrak | wolfspraul: thinking of your ya "tablet" design. there may be a way to combine this with a keyboard. the keyboard could be made quite thin and then could go as a cover on the screen. it would need some swivel-and-slide mechanism to position it partially under the screen, to prevent the ya from falling over even worse than the ben. that part may be tricky. | 13:02 |
wpwrak | this would combine the simplicity of a tablet design with still having a keyboard | 13:03 |
Ayla | what about an on-screen keyboard? | 13:04 |
Ayla | keep it smart and simple... | 13:04 |
wpwrak | Ayla: and inconvenient to use :) | 13:09 |
Ayla | a real keyboard would higher a lot the price | 13:10 |
Ayla | s/higher/raise | 13:10 |
wpwrak | Ayla: there is some research into making on-screen keyboards with tactile feedback, but they're still not even at the point of having useful lab prototypes | 13:10 |
wpwrak | Ayla: dunno if it would add all that much to the cost | 13:10 |
Ayla | well, it would at least increase the complexity of the device | 13:11 |
wpwrak | that it would | 13:11 |
wpwrak | but what other choices do you have if you want a keyboard ? | 13:11 |
Ayla | separate wireless keyboard? :) | 13:12 |
Ayla | and on-screen keyboard for extreme mobility | 13:12 |
wolfspraul | sounds complicate [keyboard ideas] | 13:33 |
wolfspraul | complicate | 13:33 |
wolfspraul | complicateD | 13:33 |
wolfspraul | :-) | 13:33 |
Ayla | I'm looking for a small a cheap FPGA board, do you have any advices? | 13:51 |
wolfspraul | avnet xilinx dev boards? | 13:53 |
wolfspraul | but don't come to me with software support questions, ask the avnet guys they get enough money from xilinx :-) | 13:54 |
wolfspraul | Ayla: what do you want to do with the board? | 13:54 |
Ayla | some digital signal conversion | 13:55 |
Ayla | I was thinking of something like this: http://www.xess.com/prods/prod047.php | 13:55 |
wolfspraul | I have no overview at all over 'cheap fpga boards', I gave you the only thing I know :-) (avnet) | 13:57 |
wolfspraul | looks nice! | 13:58 |
wolfspraul | I like the fact that they seem to be doing this independently, cool. | 13:58 |
wolfspraul | if you get it, keep us posted | 13:59 |
wolfspraul | you are very welcome to use the Qi projects server for your digital signal conversion sources, if you like | 14:00 |
wolfspraul | calling it a day, n8 | 14:00 |
Ayla | meh, disconnected... | 14:08 |
Ayla | 15:55 < Ayla> some digital signal conversion | 14:09 |
Ayla | 15:55 < Ayla> I was thinking of something like this: http://www.xess.com/prods/prod047.php | 14:09 |
wpwrak | Ayla: that board looks very nice indeed. and it's even copyleft hardware :) | 16:15 |
wpwrak | Ayla: of course, a far cry from what the M1's FPGA can do. | 16:15 |
Ayla | wpwrak, my project is to connect various controllers on my dreamcast's maple bus | 16:20 |
Ayla | like SNES or megadrive controllers | 16:20 |
Ayla | that's mostly to teach myself FPGAs | 16:20 |
Ayla | the bus has a 2Mbps throughput, I believe that this board is strong enough to handle this | 16:21 |
qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed wallpaper images of which the size did not match the resolution there were used at. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/b5698e8 | 21:53 |
mth | by the way, does it make sense to have wallpapers as part of a skin? | 21:55 |
mth | I can imagine a skin might include a wallpaper designed to go well with it, but all existing wallpapers are not related to any particular skin, it seems | 21:56 |
mth | Ayla: you missed this when you got disconnected: | 22:07 |
mth | [23:57] <mth> by the way, does it make sense to have wallpapers as part of a skin? | 22:07 |
mth | [23:58] <mth> I can imagine a skin might include a wallpaper designed to go well with it, but all existing wallpapers are not related to any particular skin, it seems | 22:07 |
Ayla | mth: the "wallpapers" menu lists all the wallpapers of the skin, plus all the wallpapers from the Default skin | 22:08 |
Ayla | from either the system directory or the user directory | 22:09 |
Ayla | so if you have general wallpapers unrelated to the skin, put them on the "wallpapers" dir of the Default skin | 22:10 |
mth | I guess that works, but it feels a bit weird | 22:15 |
Ayla | I coult make a "wallpapers" directory directly on .gmenu2x, and make a symlink to it on the Default skin directory | 22:19 |
Ayla | could* | 22:19 |
mth | symlinks don't work on vfat though and many people use vfat on SD cards | 22:26 |
Ayla | ah, right | 22:27 |
Ayla | in that case, I can't think of a smart way of doing this | 22:28 |
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