| Action: kristianpaul just got some bitbills | 03:06 | |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: new package: Tempest for Eliza is a Program that uses your computer monitor to send out AM radio signals. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f3afa7c | 03:44 |
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| Tesseract | Morning everyone | 04:47 |
| Tesseract | anyone here? | 04:48 |
| kristianpaul | hi | 04:55 |
| kristianpaul | evening here 23:55 | 04:55 |
| Tesseract | hello? | 05:33 |
| kristianpaul | hey :) | 05:38 |
| Tesseract | finally | 05:43 |
| Tesseract | lol | 05:43 |
| kristianpaul | ahhh, i knew osgps just work with real data | 06:01 |
| kristianpaul | well i wasnt sure at all, but Clifford Kelley just confirmed | 06:01 |
| Tesseract | can i get some help? when trying to get ethernet over usb for the nanonote, when i punch in ifconfig usb0, it says device not found | 06:25 |
| Tesseract | Not good. | 06:25 |
| kyak | ifconfig -a | 06:28 |
| kyak | it might be that some udev smartness renamed it to usb1,2.. etc | 06:29 |
| Tesseract | it gives the same as before | 06:42 |
| Tesseract | eth0, lo and wlan0 | 06:42 |
| Tesseract | any ideas? | 06:50 |
| kyak | when you plug in Ben, do you see it appear in dmesg? | 06:53 |
| kyak | also, what does lsusb show? | 06:53 |
| Tesseract | Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 06:53 |
| Tesseract | Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 06:53 |
| Tesseract | Bus 006 Device 002: ID 1532:001c Razer USA, Ltd | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0a5c:2145 Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth with Enhanced Data Rate II | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810 | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1532:010b Razer USA, Ltd | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 001 Device 004: ID 17ef:480c Lenovo | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 06:54 |
| Tesseract | and whats dmesg? | 06:54 |
| kyak | please, use some pastebin service... | 06:54 |
| kyak | and try pluggin Ben to some other usb port | 06:55 |
| Tesseract | and it appeared for no apparent reason | 06:57 |
| Tesseract | wierd | 06:57 |
| Tesseract | thankyou | 06:57 |
| kyak | after plugin to another port? | 06:57 |
| Tesseract | yes | 06:57 |
| kyak | remember this port well :) | 06:57 |
| Tesseract | must be an internal hub or somthing | 06:57 |
| kyak | yeah | 06:57 |
| kyak | you might as well document this port in Ethernet over USB wiki page :) | 06:58 |
| Tesseract | might aswell, under the Issue heading. | 07:00 |
| Tesseract | new problem, on the nanonote: "ipkg update" is trying to get a file that doesn't exist anymore. | 07:35 |
| Tesseract | an update will probably fix that though | 07:36 |
| Tesseract | flash* | 07:37 |
| kyak | flashing to the latest version is always a good idea | 07:38 |
| kyak | opgk update should fetch the Package.gz fine in any case.. check the /etc/opkg.conf | 07:39 |
| Tesseract | except when your about to break your internet cap >.< | 07:39 |
| kyak | how is that? | 07:39 |
| Tesseract | I'm located in australia and I have a 40gb on-peak and 40gb off-peak cap | 07:40 |
| kyak | ah, fetching an image is a problem? :) | 07:40 |
| kyak | the rootfs size when compressed is ~150 Mb | 07:40 |
| kyak | that's approximately how much you will need to download | 07:41 |
| Tesseract | i'll get up early tomorrow and try and download it in off-peak. | 07:41 |
| Tesseract | thanks again for your help | 07:42 |
| kyak | np | 07:42 |
| kyak | btw, what is your current version? (cat /etc/VERSION) | 07:42 |
| Tesseract | 2010-9-14 | 07:52 |
| kyak | that's so old :) | 07:54 |
| Tesseract | nothing but a dictionary, map viewer and terminal | 07:55 |
| Tesseract | out of curiosity, what do you guys use the nanonote for? | 08:42 |
| kyak | Tesseract: you might want to have a look here: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote_use_cases | 08:58 |
| kyak | and here: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Applications (taking that each Application is a use case) | 08:59 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: ath5k: add a missing srev checks for code that lowers the synth voltage - might fix some stability issues (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/ff655ea | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kaloz: [toolchain/gcc]: upgrade the linaro gcc to 2011.06 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/98d589f | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kaloz: [target/generic/3.0]: add missing kernel symbols (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7437ee4 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kaloz: [cns3xxx]: preliminary 3.0 support (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5bdb3e2 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Mirko Vogt: add <http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/mirror-openwrt-sources/> (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/ae87489 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/463d311 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [xburst] Improve mounttime (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/06082c3 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote optimize (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7d51ed2 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: add kernel patch for setfont2 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bd76150 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/03e88c4 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: config-2.6.37: enable battery, disable RNDIS (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/93468b3 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: patches-2.6.37: support for Ben NAND partitioning (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/52fee50 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: linux kernel: add CONFIG_PROC_PAGE_MONITOR=y to allow for clean user-space DMA (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/63e49e9 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: config-2.6.37: enable options needed for keymouse (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0c167dc | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: trunk: fix kernel keymap for VolUp/Down and Del (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c6f46f9 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: trunk: build sound modules in kernel (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7bb7d46 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: trunk: add ks7010 support patch (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a6a4c8c | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: base-files, move it to openwrt-package/nanonote-files (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2bbcdc5 | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: Disable syslogd and klogd (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/be5d8ed | 09:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot-xburst: update to 2010.06 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/07798e8 | 09:56 |
| wpwrak | ah, nothing like a long restful sleep :) | 11:25 |
| wpwrak | and now, the mails ... | 11:25 |
| wpwrak | grmbl. there's an open source embedded meeting at 9. waay too early | 11:32 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: are you already back in Buenos Aires? | 11:33 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: naw, staying in porto alegre until sunday | 11:34 |
| wolfspraul | ah nice | 11:34 |
| wolfspraul | somehow today it struck me that I need a lot of great online marketing material for the m1 launch, urgh | 11:35 |
| wpwrak | did you really think i'd miss out on all the drinking ? :) | 11:35 |
| wpwrak | ;-)) | 11:35 |
| wolfspraul | like some tutorial video, or videos of the box in action in general | 11:35 |
| wolfspraul | oh my :-) | 11:35 |
| wpwrak | ah, speaking of which, what's the plan for the monthly news ? | 11:35 |
| wolfspraul | at least delayed by 10 days or so | 11:36 |
| wolfspraul | i'm completely swamped right now | 11:36 |
| wpwrak | also some seed videos for viral marketing | 11:36 |
| wpwrak | hmm, thinking of it, drunken brazilian girls on rejon's M1 should draw some attention :) | 11:37 |
| wolfspraul | I set myself a sales goal for when I would consider copyleft hardware a success today: 1 billion units | 11:37 |
| wpwrak | (10 days) good. i can relax then :) | 11:37 |
| wolfspraul | not that bad complacency sets in here | 11:37 |
| wpwrak | (1 billion) yeah, show those apple dweebs ! :) | 11:38 |
| wolfspraul | they will reach it before us, but who cares | 11:38 |
| wolfspraul | 1 billion is a good number | 11:39 |
| wolfspraul | if we sell less than that, we failed on impact. and free software should be powerful enough to create something useful for 1 billion users. so... that's my goal now. at least it's a precise number :-) | 11:39 |
| wpwrak | i need to get rejon to show off his M1. yesterday, he kept it a little secret | 11:40 |
| wolfspraul | why that? | 11:40 |
| wolfspraul | did you see it in action yourself yet? | 11:40 |
| wpwrak | i'd be satisfied with sustainability :) | 11:40 |
| wpwrak | nope | 11:40 |
| wolfspraul | I think his software is also a bit old | 11:40 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: the 1 billion is for the copyleft hardware mission statement, unrelated to our short term goals | 11:41 |
| wpwrak | does he know how to field-upgrade ? | 11:41 |
| wolfspraul | he should, we did together once or twice | 11:41 |
| wolfspraul | just plug in jtag cable, run script | 11:41 |
| wolfspraul | maybe he doesn't want to take chances since it works now | 11:42 |
| wpwrak | okay, for the whole movement. doesn't have to be qi-hw alone then | 11:42 |
| wolfspraul | yes sure | 11:42 |
| wpwrak | hmm. need to check if he brought the jtag cable | 11:42 |
| wolfspraul | that's a regular USB cable | 11:42 |
| wolfspraul | he has it all, no worries | 11:42 |
| wpwrak | will the latest sw have better effects ? or justfewer bugs and more "exotic" features ? | 11:43 |
| wolfspraul | hard to say since it's progressing everywhere | 11:43 |
| wpwrak | but jtag is also the little board, no ? | 11:43 |
| wolfspraul | yes but that's always inserted | 11:43 |
| wpwrak | ah, i see | 11:43 |
| wolfspraul | well maybe try with what's on it first | 11:44 |
| wolfspraul | but you definitely need music | 11:45 |
| wolfspraul | without music it's a very dry experience | 11:45 |
| wpwrak | do we have some good cc-by* tracks somewhere ? | 11:46 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: not really, the situation there is dire | 12:11 |
| wpwrak | mmh :-( | 12:12 |
| wolfspraul | you can try jamenda.com or ccmixter.org | 12:12 |
| wpwrak | should have brought my kaossilator then | 12:12 |
| wolfspraul | sorry jamendo.com | 12:12 |
| wolfspraul | but both are very flawed imho | 12:12 |
| wpwrak | could someone with faster internet access please try ? :) | 12:12 |
| wolfspraul | very bad web interface, bad browsing, bad players, bad ranking/rating, bad for exploring new things, bad for downloading, lots of -nc and -nd and other restrictions mixed in with the free stuff | 12:13 |
| wpwrak | bad interface = ideal with slow links and small screens :) | 12:13 |
| wolfspraul | if an itunes product manager is ever accidentally lost on those websites, he will cry badly | 12:13 |
| wolfspraul | but that's the best I know, and if there were better ones Jon would have told me. he knows the situation best (but I'm sure for the most part he agrees with my assessment) | 12:14 |
| wolfspraul | there's classical music on wikimedia commons | 12:15 |
| wpwrak | well, if someone could find 1-2 decent tracks, that would help | 12:15 |
| wolfspraul | how slow is slow? http://dig.ccmixter.org/dig?dig-lic=safe | 12:16 |
| wolfspraul | can you go there? | 12:16 |
| wolfspraul | let me find something... | 12:16 |
| wpwrak | (classical) may be tricky to re-interpret this for M1 effects | 12:16 |
| wpwrak | slow = foraging isn't much fun | 12:17 |
| wolfspraul | http://ccmixter.org/content/George_Ellinas/George_Ellinas_-_Mine_Yours_Ours.mp3 | 12:17 |
| wolfspraul | cc-by | 12:17 |
| wpwrak | downloading ... | 12:22 |
| wpwrak | the wlan here would be faster with wpan :) | 12:22 |
| wpwrak | hmm, quite good. frequencies sound a little off, but that may just be my laptop | 12:25 |
| wpwrak | the lyrics seem appropriate - i wonder when rejon will wake up :) | 12:26 |
| wpwrak | got one more ? | 12:28 |
| wpwrak | afk for a bit | 12:31 |
| wpwrak | oh, rejon was here. didn't even notice | 12:47 |
| `antonio` | Hi, I am trying to develop a GUI in nanonote, so I am working with SDL and C but I am having some problems, | 13:17 |
| `antonio` | can anyone link me some games or application developed using SDL that I can refer to ? | 13:18 |
| viric | methril_work: I sent your CV to the brasilian owner | 14:01 |
| kristianpaul | `antonio`: may be Freedroid, bu i remenber libSDL webpage have some examples | 14:27 |
| `antonio` | kristianpaul, thanks i'll have a look | 14:28 |
| kristianpaul | also i think in this project (http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-wpan/) there is SDL code somwhere, you just need find it | 14:30 |
| kristianpaul | bbl | 14:30 |
| `antonio` | excellent i'll have a look | 14:31 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: switch linux-zigbee tools source from (old) tarball to git repository (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/2d96152 | 15:55 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/Makefile (BEN_DIRS): add dirtpan iff its lowpan tools dependency is met (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e3066d7 | 15:55 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: xxx (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/c705bf0 | 15:55 |
| wpwrak | rejon: newsflash: there are lunch vouchers | 16:00 |
| wpwrak | rejon: so if you hadn't had food yet, you may want to grab one | 16:00 |
| rejon | ok, great | 16:02 |
| rejon | will grab | 16:02 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: i was wrong all the time, osgps dont support complex data as the sige chip was avaliable at time just provided real | 16:26 |
| sid_ | http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote_New_User_Guide#Power_state_transitions | 17:20 |
| sid_ | is /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_min_design minimum power which is needed for nn? | 17:21 |
| sid_ | or how do i have to understand it | 17:21 |
| larsc | sid_: basically when the battery reaches the minimum it is empty | 17:31 |
| sid_ | thanks, it was in storage and i got some strange values like -40%, which where a bit confusing. | 17:33 |
| sid_ | do you have any experience in charging li ion? | 17:35 |
| larsc | other than putting it into a charger, no | 17:39 |
| sid_ | ^^ me too, but with n900 (usb is broken) it looks like it works | 18:06 |
| sid_ | bye | 18:06 |
| kristianpaul | grr, damn small resitor and my lackness of good flux to make it back its new place | 18:17 |
| zear | larsc, is the ~2sec waiting time after you press the power button still present in the recent firmware? | 18:22 |
| kristianpaul | phew.. finally R47K moved from R9 to R14 | 18:57 |
| kristianpaul | 1hr trying :) | 18:57 |
| kristianpaul | the trick was use tiny blobs of tin in the ends | 18:59 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: hey !, how was embeeded linux talk? | 19:00 |
| wpwrak | i wasn't there. 9am is a deal-breaker :) | 19:03 |
| kristianpaul | jaja | 19:06 |
| larsc | as long as you don't miss your own talk everything is fine | 19:12 |
| kristianpaul | =] | 19:15 |
| kristianpaul | hum, where is my 16Mhz sampling clock | 19:19 |
| wpwrak | larsc: indeed. and i had it already ;-) | 19:19 |
| kristianpaul | okay, real its working | 19:48 |
| kristianpaul | real mode* | 19:48 |
| kristianpaul | now back to sapling :) | 19:48 |
| zrafa | where is tuxbrain?? | 20:07 |
| Tesseract | Simple question, if I have an ipk file, how do I install it on the nanonote? | 21:54 |
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