| vladkorotnev | hello everyone :P is there any program to listen to XM, IT, MOD and other module files for the Ben NanoNote? | 03:12 |
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| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [nanonote-files] reflash_ben.sh: fix -d using correct path http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cb0fb36 | 03:21 |
| Last message repeated 1 time(s). | 03:40 | |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: gcc-mips: prepare for trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e12038a | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: alsa-lib: no need for this patch in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5d9fb4f | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ncursesw is perfectly fine in openwrt trunk, no need to override http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/2a9d88c | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: triggersad is now happy again! http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a587847 | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: guile: fix compilation in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/bd0dd2e | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: gnuplot-gfx: fix compilation issue in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/db5ca76 | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ben-cyrillic: fix keymap for VolUp/VolDown http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/94156cd | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: keymouse: fix keymap for VolUp/VolDown http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/6c1f1bd | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ks7010: support kernel > 2.6.35 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/da6e346 | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: busybox in trunk has changed some unicode options http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/11d4435 | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: libpurple: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/57d4eb8 | 03:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: centerim5: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e4daa38 | 03:40 |
| xiangfu | kyak, Hi | 03:41 |
| xiangfu | kyak, will send you an email about the commit on openwrt-package trunk. | 03:43 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [nanonote-files] reflash_ben.sh: update version to 2011-05-22 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cdd70d2 | 03:47 |
| xiangfu | http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2011-May/008060.html | 04:44 |
| xiangfu | OpenWrt Release: for stable 2011-05-22 | 04:44 |
| larsc | whitequark: not on the jz47xx branch | 05:11 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: alsa-lib: no need for this patch in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/09d5d02 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ncursesw is perfectly fine in openwrt trunk, no need to override http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1d17965 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: triggersad is now happy again! http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ed48679 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: guile: fix compilation in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ec6b1e7 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: gnuplot-gfx: fix compilation issue in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/17d05bb | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: mplayer_jz47xx: upgrade to 0.1.5 version that supports /proc/<pid>/pagemap http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/36bcb9e | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: mplayer_jz47xx: fix md5-sum for updated version http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f342c3b | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: update ffmpeg to a working git revision http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/71d83e9 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ben-cyrillic: fix keymap for VolUp/VolDown http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/38ada8f | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: keymouse: fix keymap for VolUp/VolDown http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/3c53b09 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ks7010: support kernel > 2.6.35 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/822e1e0 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: emacs: make programming language comments colored by default http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/32e4ab8 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: config.full_system: disable busybox's strings, enable binutils and http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/05e9503 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system: disable libxfce4util http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cd2b5dc | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: feeds.conf: disable useless feeds http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/2a5cc31 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: busybox in trunk has changed some unicode options http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ef1173e | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: libpurple: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0cde876 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: centerim5: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d04c529 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: Merge branch 'master' into trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ad8ac99 | 06:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: Merge branch 'trunk' of projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages into trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1e52ad6 | 06:08 |
| kyak | xiangfu: hm, i don't understand.. after i did git pull, i got 21 commits ahead of trunk?... | 06:08 |
| xiangfu | kyak, I rebase the trunk branch, for get some last commit from 'master' | 06:09 |
| xiangfu | I guess there is a 'git merge master' in your local git | 06:10 |
| kyak | xiangfu: what's the difference between rebasing and merging? I think the history is lost during rebase.. So we should merge | 06:10 |
| kyak | xiangfu: btw, i answered you e-mail | 06:10 |
| xiangfu | rebaseing: is try to apply the pathes on top of another branch. if there are same commits like "nanonote-files: feeds.conf: disable useless", will only have one after rebase. | 06:11 |
| xiangfu | merge will just mix them together for simple :) | 06:11 |
| kyak | damn.. why it has to be so hard :) | 06:12 |
| kyak | anyway, i wonder why i do 'git co master' and see centerim5 package there | 06:13 |
| kyak | but i don't see it here: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/master/ | 06:13 |
| xiangfu | kyak, maybe you run 'git merge trunk' under 'mater' branch | 06:14 |
| kyak | also i wonder why the history is lost every time.. ] | 06:14 |
| kyak | xiangfu: no-no, it says "on branch master" | 06:14 |
| kyak | and no commits pending | 06:15 |
| xiangfu | the history is changed after rebase. | 06:16 |
| kyak | i think we should always avoid push -f | 06:16 |
| kyak | this is what causing history lost.. am i right? | 06:16 |
| xiangfu | yes. | 06:17 |
| xiangfu | but sometime we have to do that. :(, like rebase openwrt-xburst on top of last upstream backfire | 06:18 |
| xiangfu | the only thing is after rebase we have to run 'git reset --hard origin/trunk' at local | 06:18 |
| kyak | why do we have to do that? | 06:18 |
| xiangfu | kyak, or we will never find our commit again. | 06:18 |
| kyak | hm | 06:19 |
| xiangfu | like our commit will insterted to 100 openwrt upstream commit. | 06:19 |
| kyak | ah ok.. | 06:19 |
| kyak | something similar i did recently :)) | 06:19 |
| kyak | resolved manually the conflict in sound.mk | 06:20 |
| xiangfu | kyak, sorry, I have to rebase the 'trunk' branch again. there are some mess. :) | 06:20 |
| kyak | and the commit got inside another commit | 06:20 |
| kyak | xiangfu: yeah, please do what you have to do :) | 06:20 |
| xiangfu | kyak, but after this time, I think we will never rebase 'trunk' again. :) | 06:20 |
| kyak | why not? | 06:20 |
| kyak | trunk is still not the same as master | 06:21 |
| xiangfu | all master commits have included by trunk | 06:22 |
| kyak | yeah | 06:22 |
| xiangfu | and since we decide switch to 'trunk' we will never try to commit new thing to 'master' only fix last release bug I think | 06:22 |
| kyak | but not all trunk commits are included in master | 06:22 |
| kyak | ah, ok | 06:22 |
| kyak | i thought we are going to "overwrite" master with trunk | 06:23 |
| xiangfu | 'trunk' will became 'master' in next few days :) | 06:23 |
| xiangfu | rename them | 06:23 |
| kyak | ok | 06:23 |
| xiangfu | 'master' --> 'backfire' | 06:23 |
| xiangfu | 'trunk' --> 'master' | 06:23 |
| kyak | this makes sense | 06:23 |
| xiangfu | same with openwrt-xburst.git I think. | 06:23 |
| kyak | xiangfu: centerim5/libpurple commits must not get inside the master (i.e. backfire) | 06:24 |
| xiangfu | yes. | 06:24 |
| xiangfu | so we only rebase on top 'master', never merge 'trunk' back to 'master' | 06:24 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [nanonote-files] reflash_ben.sh: update version to 2011-05-22 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cdd70d2 | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: gcc-mips: prepare for trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/83e109c | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: alsa-lib: no need for this patch in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d9c3322 | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ncursesw is perfectly fine in openwrt trunk, no need to override http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/60ae3de | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: triggersad is now happy again! http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0f74ee4 | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: guile: fix compilation in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e0bb18d | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: gnuplot-gfx: fix compilation issue in trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a8ac0c6 | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ben-cyrillic: fix keymap for VolUp/VolDown http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f54d4ad | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: keymouse: fix keymap for VolUp/VolDown http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5395297 | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ks7010: support kernel > 2.6.35 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/82df0af | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: busybox in trunk has changed some unicode options http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/839aab9 | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: libpurple: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/4fd96bb | 06:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: centerim5: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/00d5146 | 06:25 |
| xiangfu | kyak, last rebase done. you can 'git fetch -a && git reset --hard origin/trunk' under local trunk branch | 06:25 |
| xiangfu | then run 'gitk' you will see all commits is on top of master | 06:25 |
| kyak | ok, never merge, always rebase :) | 06:26 |
| xiangfu | the merge is used like: there are three branch 'master' 'ben-naonote' 'ya-naonote', then we can merge 'ben-nanonote' under 'master', merge 'ya-nanonote' under 'master' | 06:28 |
| xiangfu | but our case is we have to rebase on top of openwrt upstream, also this rebase help us find the different with upstrem | 06:28 |
| xiangfu | just fyi, :) | 06:28 |
| kyak | yep, i got it. | 06:29 |
| kyak | just i still don't understand why some files in web interface don't have history | 06:29 |
| kyak | http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/trunk/ben-cyrillic/files | 06:29 |
| kyak | see ben_ru_uni.map | 06:29 |
| kyak | this was changed recently | 06:29 |
| kyak | and it's date and history is empty | 06:30 |
| xiangfu | the projects.qi-hardware.com using 'indefero' cache a lot, so we better check that again tomorrow :) | 06:30 |
| xiangfu | hmm.. there is no 'age' and 'message' on ben_ru_uni.map | 06:31 |
| kyak | yes | 06:32 |
| kyak | and the same for some other files | 06:32 |
| kyak | i'd say that all commits to trunk don't have such history | 06:32 |
| xiangfu | seems it's 'indefero' cache problem. let's give 'indefero' 24 hours for caching :) | 06:33 |
| kyak | it's not caching, most commits are much more than 24 hrs old | 06:33 |
| kyak | like that gcc-mips commit | 06:33 |
| xiangfu | but we just rebased. | 06:33 |
| kyak | hmm | 06:33 |
| kyak | this is tricky.. i thought the commit identifier is kept | 06:34 |
| kyak | ok, let's see in some time :) | 06:34 |
| xiangfu | kyak, if the last openwrt release don't have big bug/problem, we can switch to 'trunk' after that. | 06:52 |
| xiangfu | kyak, also we can think about Jlime/Openwrt dual boot, | 06:53 |
| xiangfu | think about nand partition, since we have fast mount time, | 06:53 |
| xiangfu | add atben support | 06:54 |
| kyak | i'm using trunk for quite some time now, without apparent problems. Btw, plplot fails to build for some reason, i guess we could ask dvdk to have a look.. | 07:00 |
| xiangfu | yes. | 07:00 |
| kyak | xiangfu: dual boot - i think it's working already by holding a button during power on. What more can we wish? | 07:00 |
| kyak | some menu.. i'm not sure, it only waste precious seconds during bootup | 07:01 |
| xiangfu | yes. then the Jlime/Openwrt have to install in two partition. | 07:01 |
| kyak | 2 Gb is not much at all :) | 07:01 |
| xiangfu | I don't have clear idea on dual boot. :( | 07:02 |
| kyak | taking into account the growing number of uSD slot hacks | 07:02 |
| kyak | not everyone would have spare uSD slot for jlime :) | 07:02 |
| kyak | i'm happy with the current partition layout | 07:03 |
| kyak | more than 512 Mb for rootfs is good if you need to pre-install all the software. but in real life, one person doesn't need that much | 07:04 |
| kyak | 512 Mb rootfs with around 150 Mb free space for installation of additional pacakges is good | 07:04 |
| kyak | having 2 Gb rootfs would make me hesitate to reflash | 07:05 |
| kyak | because i'm lazy to backup and then restor my user files after reflash | 07:05 |
| xiangfu | back/restore is bad. me either | 07:06 |
| xiangfu | I mean I also don't want to do backup/restore. | 07:06 |
| kyak | having some space that can survive between reflashes is good. | 07:07 |
| kyak | frankly, i wouldn't give another 512 Mb of NAND for the second OS.. 1.5 Gb of datafs is not that much at all | 07:09 |
| kyak | also, i don't know who will be using both OSs actively at the same time | 07:09 |
| kyak | i.e. constantly switching between each other | 07:10 |
| kyak | another OS that would be just a waste of space | 07:10 |
| kyak | for someone using jlime, 512 Mb of openwrt (that he doesn't use or uses very rare) is a waste of NAND | 07:11 |
| kyak | and vice versa | 07:11 |
| kyak | and, having two OS's means doubling of support efforts | 07:12 |
| xiangfu | yes. | 07:13 |
| xiangfu | that's true | 07:14 |
| xiangfu | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ3NQ | 07:28 |
| lunavorax_frizzl | Hi all! | 08:14 |
| xiangfu | lunavorax_frizzl, Hi | 08:16 |
| kyak | xiangfu: do i need to be root to run reflash_ben.sh? | 08:18 |
| kyak | i saw this requirement had been removed | 08:18 |
| kyak | i'm almost used to flashing Ben as root :) is it required? | 08:19 |
| xiangfu | since the xburst-tools have changed, as long as you have write access to ingenic usb device like: | 08:20 |
| xiangfu | /etc/udev/rules.d$ more 80-ben-nanonote.rules | 08:20 |
| xiangfu | SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="601a", ATTRS{idProduct}=="4740", MODE="0666" | 08:20 |
| xiangfu | kyak, at before, we check 'root' under 'reflash_ben.sh' and 'usbboot', | 08:20 |
| xiangfu | but using udev is better then just 'root' | 08:21 |
| kyak | http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/commit/cb0fb36a9ddfb0885eb2b0040435660ddcbcd812/ | 08:21 |
| kyak | i see that checking for root has been removed | 08:21 |
| xiangfu | kyak, me too, before setup the udev :) | 08:21 |
| kyak | i'll setup udev :) | 08:21 |
| kyak | it was buggin me to run that as root, but not as much as to take measures :) | 08:22 |
| kyak | xiangfu: couple of days ago, i merged openwrt-trunk into qi-openwrt-trunk. Should i now rebase instead? | 08:29 |
| xiangfu | which repos? openwrt-xburst.git? | 08:29 |
| kyak | there was only one conflict at that time.. i think it lead to creation of "double" merge | 08:29 |
| kyak | yeah, openwrt-xburst.git | 08:29 |
| kyak | i.e. our local change in sound.mk got merged with upstream change in another (third) commit | 08:30 |
| kyak | instead of rebasing on top of that upstream change | 08:30 |
| xiangfu | yes. rebase is better for maintain our commits. | 08:34 |
| xiangfu | you can use 'git rebase -i OPENWRT_TRUNK_BRANCH_NAME' | 08:34 |
| xiangfu | then it will bring a text for you to edit. decide which commit you want. | 08:35 |
| kyak | yep, it brings the text | 08:35 |
| kyak | i want all of them :) | 08:35 |
| kyak | not sure if this one "pick a85f9e8 trunk: build sound modules in kernel" | 08:35 |
| kyak | will rebase without conflicts | 08:35 |
| xiangfu | just save and exit. see if there is conflicts? | 08:36 |
| xiangfu | if no. then everything is find. if there is we have to manually fix the conflict. | 08:36 |
| kyak | Could not apply a85f9e8... trunk: build sound modules in kernel | 08:37 |
| kyak | just like i said | 08:37 |
| kyak | after i fix the conflict. How should i proceed? | 08:37 |
| kyak | add/rm this file, or git rebase --continue ? | 08:37 |
| xiangfu | 'git rebase --continue' | 08:37 |
| xiangfu | you can run 'git mergetools' | 08:38 |
| xiangfu | sorry, 'git mergetool' | 08:38 |
| kyak | one minute.. | 08:38 |
| kyak | Could not apply 21fdcfd... package/kernel: Remove all 2.4 definitions | 08:47 |
| kyak | but files require merging.. wtf? | 08:47 |
| kyak | *no files | 08:48 |
| xiangfu | this commit is from upstream? | 08:49 |
| xiangfu | sorry. should be from ours. | 08:49 |
| xiangfu | where is this commit from ? are you sure you have correct branch? current branch and which branch you are rebase on? | 08:51 |
| kyak | that commit is from upstream | 08:53 |
| kyak | i know how it got there.. | 08:54 |
| kyak | that' because of merging.. | 08:54 |
| kyak | fixing it now.. | 08:55 |
| qi-bot | [commit] jow: [package] iw: fix calculation of fractional multicast rates like 5.5Mbps due to wrong operator precedence http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/030f9c1 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] jow: [package] ncurses: enable C++ bindings (#9442) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bfa121a | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] jow: [netfilter] package u32 match and TEE target, patches by Maxim Uvarov http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/36715e6 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Mirko Vogt: add <http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/mirror-openwrt-sources/> http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b1a7200 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/402a517 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [xburst] Improve mounttime http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/807cc4b | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote optimize http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5f63507 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: Add-gfortran-compiler-support-to-the-toolchain http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/eaaf0bd | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: add kernel patch for setfont2 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2703fe0 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/ed08699 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: config-2.6.37: enable battery, disable RNDIS http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/8d85716 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: patches-2.6.37: support for Ben NAND partitioning http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/21c6371 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: linux kernel: add CONFIG_PROC_PAGE_MONITOR=y to allow for clean user-space DMA http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/1502cdd | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: config-2.6.37: enable options needed for keymouse http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/89bf2df | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: trunk: fix kernel keymap for VolUp/Down and Del http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c27e043 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: trunk: build sound modules in kernel http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c1d7c81 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: trunk: add ks7010 support patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/328d74a | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: base-files, move it to openwrt-package/nanonote-files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0432ba5 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/80fdec5 | 08:57 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: base-files, move it to openwrt-package/nanonote-files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/920e585 | 08:57 |
| kyak | xiangfu: now everything should be as expected.. Could you double check? | 08:58 |
| kyak | our commits to trunk nice and clean on top of the latest trunk | 08:58 |
| xiangfu | great. one small things is you can just remove the top three commits. | 09:03 |
| xiangfu | since it'a add and delete the same file. | 09:03 |
| xiangfu | kyak, sorry. the top two commits. not three. | 09:04 |
| kyak | heh, right :) | 09:05 |
| kyak | hooks/post-update: line 24: echo: write error: Broken pipe | 09:09 |
| kyak | hmm | 09:09 |
| kyak | but anyway, git reset --hard HEAD~2; git push -f origin trunk is done | 09:10 |
| xiangfu | kyak, great you have merged 'fix typo from the previous commit' to the correct commits :) | 09:11 |
| kyak | yeah, that i did, too :) | 09:11 |
| kyak | that was embarassing typo :) now noone knows it has ever been | 09:12 |
| xiangfu | :D | 09:12 |
| xiangfu | hmm.. I can not 'git fetch -a', it show there is no update in git server. | 09:13 |
| xiangfu | can you push again | 09:13 |
| kyak | one sec | 09:14 |
| kyak | $ git push origin trunk | 09:14 |
| kyak | Everything up-to-date | 09:14 |
| xiangfu | wait, it's working now. | 09:15 |
| kyak | git show-branch openwrt trunk (openwrt is the name of remote openwrt branch) shows 15 commits in trunk | 09:15 |
| xiangfu | kyak, works just fine. | 09:17 |
| kyak | good! | 09:17 |
| kyak | git log -p ^openwrt trunk <- create cumulative patch from openwrt-trunk to qi-openwrt-trunk :) | 09:21 |
| kyak | such a beast... | 09:22 |
| xiangfu | you want git diff openwrt ? | 09:23 |
| kyak | heh, another way to do it :) | 09:24 |
| kyak | git has too much to offer | 09:24 |
| xiangfu | one big patch :) | 09:25 |
| xiangfu | git format-patch -15 :) is better | 09:25 |
| kyak | different commands can be used to achieve the same goal,, perhaps it's not very good | 09:25 |
| lunavorax_frizzl | Anyone here knows a good DOS disassembler ? | 10:20 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: bin/fk: little helper script to flash the kernel via SSH or usbboot http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/387e6dd | 13:35 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: bin/ben, bin/jlime: helper scripts for network setup and SSH login http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/6aace95 | 13:36 |
| lunavorax_frizzl | Oh I never realized how much space Xorg was using in RAM | 13:42 |
| lunavorax_frizzl | ~580MB | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | nt exactly xorg but probably all the apps allocating rather large canvas aka webpages aka oversized scrollable windows | 14:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | which are usually larger than the framebuffer for the screen's real resolution | 14:11 |
| vladkorotnev | hello everyone :D | 15:45 |
| vladkorotnev | I know it's a noob question, but how do I insert a microSD card into the ben nanonote? | 15:46 |
| wpwrak | vladkorotnev: so it arrived ? congratulations ! | 15:50 |
| wpwrak | vladkorotnev: you insert the card with the contacts facing upward | 15:50 |
| vladkorotnev | wpwrak: thanks! | 15:50 |
| vladkorotnev | wpwrak: it tries to get back out :P | 15:50 |
| wpwrak | push it in a little more. then it should lock (you can still pry it out, but it resists a little) | 15:51 |
| vladkorotnev | oh thanks, I got it | 15:52 |
| vladkorotnev | but where's its mount point? | 15:53 |
| wpwrak | puuh. not sure if there's any kind of automount. maybe you have to mount manually. | 15:56 |
| ron_ | thinking about possible futre nanonote derivative, a question: changing toi a different LCD display module implies (??) a new lcm controller? | 16:00 |
| ron_ | from something I read here months ago, apparently the lcd controller was especially tough to crack (open up code). is that correct | 16:01 |
| wpwrak | ron_: you mean the chip on the lcd module ? yes, there's a number of such chips and you can never quite tell which one they use | 16:02 |
| wpwrak | ron_: this happened before i got involved, byt lcd controllers are generally a mess, so i wouldn't be surprised if it was a pain | 16:02 |
| wpwrak | s/byt/but/ | 16:02 |
| ron_ | wpwrak my real question is it practical to go to a new and larger display with higher resolution | 16:03 |
| ron_ | i understrand that having more bits to move around is a challenge | 16:04 |
| wpwrak | roh: well, i wouldn't change the form factor of the nanonote much. but a slightly wider display should be possible | 16:04 |
| ron_ | on the other hand 4760 will run about 2x faster | 16:05 |
| ron_ | on the other hand the main attraction of Ben is it is very open. on a spec basis, it is very weak compared to many other portable devices that can be used with Linux. e.g. Palm Pre run a nice linux. | 16:08 |
| wpwrak | yeah, a new design would have a lot more memory bandwidth. maybe faster clock, sdr->ddr or even ddr2, a wider bus. you could drive a very large screen. | 16:09 |
| wpwrak | it specs are weak, but the price is low :) i think that's an interesting niche. | 16:09 |
| kyak | vladkorotnev: it arrived at the right time to give it a try to new testing image from xiangfu :) | 16:10 |
| wpwrak | ron_: i would also hope that more opened design would be easier to adapt. e.g., you could make a laptop-sized variant with a moderate investment. still a few kbucks, but far less than what it would cost today. | 16:12 |
| kristianpaul | valhalla: great it arrives indeed | 16:14 |
| kristianpaul | oops | 16:14 |
| kristianpaul | is gone.. | 16:14 |
| kristianpaul | sorry valhalla | 16:14 |
| wpwrak | ron_: all we'd need to make this happen is a pot of gold. anyone stumbled upon one by chance ? :) | 16:15 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: the curse of auto-completion :) | 16:15 |
| kristianpaul | yeah.. :S | 16:16 |
| Jay7 | wpwrak. ron_: I'll prefer case and keyboard like HP Jornada ;) | 16:37 |
| Jay7 | interesting, is Pandora case schematics awailable? | 16:37 |
| Jay7 | I mean OpenPandora | 16:38 |
| qwebirc145 | hello how is the development going? | 16:41 |
| valhalla | kristianpaul: np, the conversation looks interesting anyway :D | 16:42 |
| valhalla | Jay7: no, the openpandora is not open as far as hardware is concerned | 16:43 |
| Jay7 | valhalla: I mean case | 16:43 |
| valhalla | Jay7: yes, case included | 16:44 |
| Jay7 | bad OpenPandora, bad! | 16:44 |
| valhalla | they are dead scared of clones appearing before they have managed to finish builiding the preorders | 16:45 |
| Jay7 | they are failed almost anything | 16:46 |
| Jay7 | but they was one of pioneers | 16:46 |
| valhalla | exactly, when they started they were sort of "open enough for now" | 16:48 |
| wpwrak | we have to keep raising the bar :) there's still a lot to do. | 16:49 |
| valhalla | well, the nanonote is also "open enough for now", since the SoC is still proprietary, only the "now" of the nanonote is later than the "now" of pandora | 16:50 |
| wpwrak | the nanonote also lacks open schematics that were used for production (the "real" schematics are in a proprietary format), an open layout, and an open case designs. | 16:51 |
| wpwrak | schematics and layout should be easy enough to "do right" in a future device. the case is harder. | 16:52 |
| Jay7 | case design is very special thing.. | 16:53 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: btw, someone asked for the ben layout a few days ago. have you ever released the gerbers ? | 16:55 |
| wpwrak | Jay7: it's different from electronics. but hey, it should certainly be doable for a few lads with sharp wits and some CNC system (mill, printer, whatever) :-) | 16:55 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: the avt2 gerbers are published in both kicad and pads, I believe. | 16:57 |
| wolfspraul | the other gerbers are irretrievable due to the process back then with multiple companies involved | 16:58 |
| wpwrak | (avt) cool. (others) :-( | 16:58 |
| wolfspraul | but for all practical purposes the lb60 and avt2 gerbers are the same, it's only a technical problem | 16:58 |
| wolfspraul | The ben gerbers are released as avt2, in both pads and kicad format. | 16:59 |
| wolfspraul | that's the bottom line | 16:59 |
| wolfspraul | the pads version is even production tested (the kicad version is not) | 17:00 |
| wolfspraul | the naming of lb60 and avt2 was unfortunate | 17:01 |
| wolfspraul | naming pcb revisions in open projects is a pain | 17:01 |
| wpwrak | hmm, where are they ? http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/RC2/ only has schematics (as PDF) | 17:01 |
| wpwrak | ah, v1.0 ! :) | 17:01 |
| wpwrak | design files for orcad and pads: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/v1.0/ | 17:03 |
| wolfspraul | yes | 17:03 |
| wolfspraul | http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/AVT2_RC2_Reference_Board#PCB_GERBER/DRILL_FILES | 17:03 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (naming pcb revisions) hmm, what do you mean ? | 17:03 |
| wolfspraul | the kicad run never made it though, so the kicad files are untested | 17:03 |
| wolfspraul | those random numbers lb60 and avt2 are a bad idea | 17:04 |
| wolfspraul | it just doesn't work | 17:04 |
| wpwrak | ah. well, they look "professional" :) | 17:05 |
| wolfspraul | the best is to only have one file format (say kicad), to start in that file format from day 1, always stay in that file format | 17:05 |
| wolfspraul | any derivatives or generated files should be generated in a clean and reproducible process, from a known revision of the original open kicad files | 17:05 |
| wolfspraul | and all boards should be named after the product they are being part of, and then just a date code, or revision number | 17:06 |
| wolfspraul | that's the theory | 17:06 |
| wpwrak | hmm yes, including the git revision would be an interesting idea | 17:06 |
| wolfspraul | in practice it's sometimes not like that :-) | 17:06 |
| wpwrak | well, ben-wpan is pretty close. i still maintain my version number (basically a date code) manually, but besides that, everything originates from the kicad design files | 17:07 |
| wpwrak | (plus some auxiliary material for BOM, CNC, etc. but that's kinda unavoidable) | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | PADS \o/ :-S | 17:55 |
| Action: Jay7 is looking at google analytics for kexecboot.org site | 17:56 | |
| Jay7 | wpwrak: seems you made lot of traffic ;) | 17:56 |
| Jay7 | I see interesting sources like acessa.me, google.com.pe | 17:57 |
| Jay7 | location chart is interesting too.. Brazil, Pery, Colombia, Mexico, Argentina | 17:59 |
| Jay7 | s/Pery/Peru/ | 17:59 |
| wpwrak | Jay7: (traffic) hm no, i just mentioned it on a forum in germany. don't think it spread far from there | 17:59 |
| wpwrak | Jay7: maybe someone else discovered it independently ;-) | 17:59 |
| Jay7 | well, may be :) | 17:59 |
| Jay7 | btw, now USA visitors count is greater than Russia visitors count :) | 18:00 |
| Jay7 | good sign | 18:00 |
| Jay7 | USA is at 1st place now :) | 18:00 |
| wpwrak | whee ! :) | 18:01 |
| wpwrak | if you translate the page to chinese, maybe even more people will come ;-) | 18:01 |
| Jay7 | I don't speak chinese :( | 18:02 |
| Jay7 | btw, some people from South Korea was here too | 18:02 |
| Jay7 | and Japan | 18:02 |
| wpwrak | now you've earned global fame :) | 18:02 |
| Jay7 | and India | 18:03 |
| Jay7 | hehe | 18:03 |
| Jay7 | well.. I should commit something then :) | 18:03 |
| kristianpaul | btw what happend with kexecboot and nanonote? | 18:03 |
| Jay7 | almost nothing :) | 18:03 |
| kristianpaul | ah :-) | 18:03 |
| Jay7 | I have no time to find and fix kexec problem on NN | 18:03 |
| Jay7 | and kexecboot is unusable w/o working kexec at this moment | 18:04 |
| Jay7 | so work is kinda stalled | 18:04 |
| kristianpaul | i hope your followers are not here | 18:04 |
| Jay7 | I'll add support for switch_root and switch_root + losetup soon :) | 18:05 |
| Jay7 | then kexecboot may be usable even w/o kexec :) | 18:05 |
| kristianpaul | may be i'm blind, but any body case a link to source code here http://gnss-sdr.ru/index.php?blogid=2 ? | 18:07 |
| kristianpaul | s/case/can see | 18:07 |
| Jay7 | hehe.. glonass.. | 18:07 |
| kristianpaul | Jay7: over your sky ;) | 18:07 |
| Jay7 | kristianpaul: http://gnss-sdr.com/sklad/GLON_SDR_scilab.rar | 18:08 |
| Jay7 | scilab source code | 18:08 |
| kristianpaul | rar.. | 18:08 |
| Jay7 | yeah.. windows users very like it here | 18:09 |
| Jay7 | but migrating to 7zip slowly | 18:09 |
| Jay7 | http://gnss-sdr.ru/sklad/gps_for_www.zip | 18:10 |
| Jay7 | kicad sources | 18:10 |
| kristianpaul | phew how do i missed.. | 18:10 |
| Jay7 | kristianpaul: just click on every header and check articles | 18:12 |
| Jay7 | there are some more links inside | 18:12 |
| Jay7 | e.g. http://gnss-sdr.ru/sklad/gps-sdr.zip | 18:12 |
| kristianpaul | dammit i tought was a single page.. | 18:13 |
| Action: kristianpaul feel about it | 18:13 | |
| kristianpaul | thanks Jay7 :-) | 18:13 |
| Jay7 | kristianpaul: np :) | 18:13 |
| kristianpaul | great there is code for the cpld.. :D | 18:14 |
| Jay7 | kristianpaul: btw, have you tried gpredict? | 18:16 |
| kristianpaul | Jay7: of course i used once a week, at least to try just "see" some sats for now :-) | 18:17 |
| Jay7 | kristianpaul: is it working? I mean that OE port | 18:18 |
| kristianpaul | ahh OE, not tried | 18:18 |
| kristianpaul | that go after werner ubb-vga.. | 18:18 |
| Action: Jay7 still have lingot unpushed.. | 18:18 | |
| kristianpaul | urgh, the're using the cypress chip.. | 18:20 |
| kristianpaul | or usrp legacy ;) | 18:20 |
| methril_work | nice GPS site | 20:00 |
| methril_work | "GPS" | 20:01 |
| kristianpaul | GNSS! | 21:03 |
| methril_work | ok kristianpaul, sorry for the mistake ;) | 21:16 |
| grunthus | hi, looking for some help with software USB-boot, for new Ben | 21:24 |
| grunthus | ah, no, looks like I got 601a:4740 from lsusb now | 21:29 |
| grunthus | ls /dev/bus/usb | 21:30 |
| kristianpaul | methril_work: nha, just kidding, actuatully the blog is focus on glonass it seems, thats is gnss too | 21:51 |
| grunthus | Hmmm. OK, reflash_ben.sh reported success, however the Ben will still not switch on for normal use? Any ideas anyone? | 22:10 |
| grunthus | Erm, disregard. I got it via the reset switch!! | 22:11 |
| kristianpaul | :-) | 22:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | roh: do you have a needlebed tester? (maybe a special tool for your CNC mill) | 23:13 |
| Action: DocScrutinizer ponders to revamp an old 24pin impact printer, then feed the results to kicad to RE the schematics | 23:26 | |
| DocScrutinizer | of the DUT | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAH, (C): use a electroluminescent transparent layer of twice the PCB length and width, with the needle with RF in the center | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | use a second EL layer for PCB backside | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2 cameras | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | where's the next patent lawyer?! | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | NB I'm talking about blank PCB, not PCBA | 23:33 |
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