#qi-hardware IRC log for Monday, 2011-05-23

DocScrutinizerwpwrak: of what device?00:21
Action: DocScrutinizer thinks about wikireader and if it still has the usb port footprints I forced in00:22
kristianpaul(wilkireader) what what?00:32
kristianpaul:o00:32
DocScrutinizeryou don't know wikireader, kristianpaul ?00:36
kristianpaulsure, i have one :p00:38
kristianpaulwell my mother had00:38
DocScrutinizeryou never disassembled it?00:38
kristianpaulnow i'm curious to borrow it from her for th weekend ;)00:39
kristianpaulno is not mine00:39
kristianpaulwas a gift for my mother00:39
DocScrutinizerit's been designed as a hacker gadget00:39
kristianpaulah..00:39
kristianpauli liked the touch thing so i gave to my mother, i never tought it was hackable00:39
DocScrutinizeroriginally00:39
kristianpaulin hardware i mean00:39
DocScrutinizerI insisted on having footprints for the needed minimal components for USB00:40
DocScrutinizerdunno if it made it to MP00:40
DocScrutinizerI as well pushed in quite a number of "testpads", but I think those are mostly gone00:41
DocScrutinizeroriginal design been clamshell with a hw kbd00:42
DocScrutinizerI had a few nice ideas for that kbd00:42
DocScrutinizerthen the mgmt opted for that c-ts00:43
kristianpaulyou me the wikireader was close to look like the nanonote?00:45
DocScrutinizeryep00:45
DocScrutinizerkinda00:45
kristianpaul:o00:45
kristianpaulbtw you tough as well as adding AAA batteries?00:46
kristianpaulI finally bought some rechargable ones, after have two buy 2 pairs in a month..00:47
DocScrutinizerit's been the product requirement specs from beginning to have cheap primary cells for power00:47
wpwrakDocScrutinizer: (what device) the ben00:48
DocScrutinizerkristianpaul: say thanks to the c-ts and whoever opted for it. Our original desin was meant to run 100s of hours from one set of AAA00:48
kristianpauli see00:49
DocScrutinizercpu in deep sleep most of the time, only wakesource being bat low, close clam, and kbd00:50
kristianpaul(want his ben to sleep aswell)00:50
DocScrutinizersome people at OM never got the idea of a concept with a common sense and all tailored to meet the product req specs. There've always been changes last minute, and they didn't get it what's the impact on the hw design00:51
DocScrutinizerthere even were several cpu swaps half way :-(00:52
DocScrutinizer(not on WR)00:53
DocScrutinizergta03 that was00:53
DocScrutinizerincredible00:53
DocScrutinizerI'm really amazed OM ever got to roll out gta01/0200:54
DocScrutinizer*sigh*00:54
DocScrutinizer(wake source) idle timer for shutdown of course. I forgot00:56
kristianpaulyou own a nanonote i guess? it have a kbd, i wonder to hear you ideas about that :-)01:01
DocScrutinizerI got no nanonote01:07
kristianpaulah, true i remennber now you like N900 ;-)01:07
DocScrutinizerwell, that's not the point - at least for me01:08
kristianpaulgood01:08
kristianpaulk01:08
DocScrutinizeractually I just can't afford to buy all the interesting gadgets out there that I'd like to have a look at01:10
kristianpaulsure, who dont..01:44
Action: roh is also quite happy to get them just put on his table to do stuff and not needing to buy em02:25
wpwrakroh is the smart one here :)02:29
kristianpaulroh, we need chips on that table soon ;-)02:31
kristianpaultoo !02:31
Action: roh should have mkfs-ed that partition instead of deleting the content *wait*02:31
rohdumping the flash on these modern devices is harder than one thinks... these buggers have 32gbytes of it now02:32
kristianpaulwpwrak: seems Alexander finally, replied !03:05
kristianpaulwpwrak: will be nice if you and rejon talk to him about lm32 needing love around gcc if there is time of course, i'm aware he is related with gcc developers, may be can help.. but worth the try, or what you think?03:06
wpwrakkristianpaul: sure. just tell me whom i need to ping with what ;-)03:13
wpwrakroh: in the good old times, with 1 kB of RAM and 250 bps cassette tape, things were so much better ;-)03:14
kristianpauland bigger :-D03:14
kristianpaul30 minutes sythesis time is great, now i can do check errors fast03:15
kristianpaulnow i wonder as i'm not using some mm1 components as audio and vga, i may drop some cores.. and speed up :-)03:16
kristianpaulxiangfu: when is xburst openwrt for nanonote next release?03:29
kristianpaulwill ne nice if it includes de ubb-vga software support.. :-)03:30
kristianpaulor it is just X compatible?..03:30
kristianpaulas vga out of course i mean03:30
kristianpaulmirror*03:31
xiangfuhttp://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-05202011-0105/03:31
xiangfuhttp://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-05222011-0411/03:31
xiangfukristianpaul i have some images in buildhost. just needs sometime test before release.03:32
kristianpaulxiangfu: for a moment i tought, that i just have to wait for next openwrt usptream release :-D03:45
wpwrakkristianpaul: ubb-vga is currently just a frame buffer in a special format, which gets displayed05:08
wpwrakkristianpaul: there's no connection to X, fbcon, or such.05:09
kristianpaulwpwrak: what was the net surf i saw the other time? you hacked the app¡05:13
kristianpaul?05:13
kristianpaulah damn, i bet was a pic..05:17
Action: kristianpaul nap05:17
wpwrakkristianpaul: oh, the konqueror session ? that was a screenshot from my desktop that i displayed with ubb-vga :)05:30
kyakwpwrak: you caused some confusion with that ;)05:30
kyakxiangfu: hi! there is a problem with compile-openwrt-xburst-trunk.sh script. The problem is that it updates feeds (line 43) and only then it switches to openwrt-packages/trunk branch (line 49). It causes inconsistency (for example, centerim5 and libpurple only exist in trunk branch, and therefore not included in full build).05:30
wpwrakkyak: hmm, i think i explained it all :)05:30
kyakwpwrak: people like to see with their eyes, not to read :)05:31
xiangfukyak thaks. seems opewrt support the branch in feeds now. i will look into it05:34
xiangfuwill do that about 1 hour later05:34
kyakchecking out specific branch by means of openwrt would be the best.. Otherwise, we would need to install feeds one more time05:35
xiangfuYes. i remember i saw that commit05:37
wpwrakkyak: in other words, i did the marketing well ;-)05:47
kyakhehe, right :)05:51
kyakxiangfu: it seems that it's "src-git qipackages git://projects.qi-hardware.com/openwrt-packages.git;trunk"08:29
lunavorax_miniHi all !09:36
lunavorax_miniHi again all !11:48
lunavorax_miniWho can tell me some things about the Wiki ?11:48
lunavorax_miniI would like to start translating some pages in French during my free time. I need to know how that works.11:48
xiangfulunavorax_mini hi11:49
lunavorax_miniHi xiangfu :)11:49
lunavorax_miniwhoops, sorry, gnome2 and X crashed11:53
xiangfulunavorax_mini: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Qi:Language_policy11:54
xiangfu'fr' => 'Français',# French11:55
xiangfu 11:55
lunavorax_miniPerfect11:55
lunavorax_mini:)11:55
lunavorax_miniFinals at college are going to happen soon so it might not be right now, But I'll be free strating from 20th of June11:55
xiangfujust update a little: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Qi:Language_policy11:56
xiangfuadd French :)11:56
xiangfuadded11:56
xiangfulanguage_policy: Cosmetic a little : http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Qi:Language_policy12:01
xiangfulunavorax_mini, (Finals) great. :)12:01
lunavorax_miniBtw, wpwrak I can't find the ipkg software anymone, is it me or it has been removed ?12:57
lunavorax_miniWoops I wrote wpwrak I mean someone else but whatever12:57
xiangfulunavorax_mini, ben nanonote using opkg.13:06
lunavorax_minixiangfu, oh yeah I forgot about it !13:12
lunavorax_minixiangfu, thank you so much, here comes gcc now :)13:12
lunavorax_minixiangfu, http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/How_to_reflash/fr and first page to be translated ;)13:12
xiangfugreat. thanks. the only thing is we need add 'fr' at the English page: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/How_to_reflash13:15
xiangfuyou can see 'English *-‡(ðc),   " Español  " *-‡(€S),' but no 'French' :(13:15
xiangfuneeds search a little about how to configure this :)13:15
lunavorax_miniOh ok13:20
lunavorax_minixiangfu, (compatible batteries also translated)13:20
xiangfulunavorax_mini. cool. I would advice you try to trnslated the main page :) that will be cool.13:21
xiangfuthen peopel goto 'en.qi-hardware.com', peopel can saw there is 'french' translated :)13:21
lunavorax_miniYeah I though about that too. I'm in class for now, so I'll translate it in a few hours when I'll be back home.13:21
xiangfulunavorax_mini. one small question. what is your keyboard layout? is that like: http://ascii-table.com/keyboard.php/18913:23
xiangfuall the french keyboard layout is 189 right?13:24
xiangfu(want understand more about french keyboard layout :)13:24
lunavorax_minixiangfu, Oh ! I don't know ! How can I check that ?13:24
lunavorax_miniI'm looking at the page xiangfu 13:24
lunavorax_miniYup xiangfu ! That's a French keyboard !13:25
xiangfujust compare your french keyboard layout with http://ascii-table.com/keyboard.php/189 :)13:25
xiangfukyak https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2011-January/009074.html,14:27
xiangfugit with branch in feeds.conf14:27
xiangfuupdated: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/openwrt-xburst.trunk/feeds.conf :)14:27
kyakxiangfu: yep, this works as expected :)14:39
kyakxiangfu: i told it to you around 6 hours ago, but you seem to have ping timeouted :)14:40
xiangfuI am in China, the world biggest LOCAL NETWORK :) 14:41
xiangfuI have to using Openvpn for though the GFW :)14:41
kyakguess they can't forbid that, can they?14:42
kyakxiangfu: running irssi in screen session or using irc bnc helps :)14:42
xiangfuthey cann't, but they are not going give up :(14:42
xiangfukyak, you can see my ping: 35 packets transmitted, 30 received, 14% packet loss14:46
xiangfuthose are under OPENVPN, sometimes even worse 14:47
kyakpretty bad, yeah14:48
xiangfuLunavorax_mini, a lot of /fr pages come out. great.14:48
lunavorax_minixiangfu, ;)14:49
lunavorax_minixiangfu, I have to be honnest, I absolutely don't know why I haven't done this before...14:53
lunavorax_miniSomehow, I've been used to the "Oh it's already done" situation.14:53
lunavorax_miniTime to go, see you in a few hours with a brand new french main page !14:55
qi-bottest15:34
kyakxiangfu: ping15:35
xiangfuqi-bot test for what :)15:35
xiangfukyak pong15:35
kyakxiangfu: how do you think about an idea: output a short message here whether the build has been successfull or not? :)15:35
kyakthat would be like adding one line to your build script15:36
xiangfukyak, what will be cool. 15:36
xiangfukyak, so the qi-bot test is from you :)15:36
kyakyeah :)15:37
xiangfuplease do it.15:37
qi-botThe (trunk) build was successfull, see images here: http://link15:40
kristianpauloh15:42
qi-botThe build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/15:47
kristianpaulfancy ! 15:47
kristianpaulnice xiangfu :-)15:47
qi-botTEST The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/15:48
Last message repeated 1 time(s).16:00
xiangfushould be works fine now :), let's wait a real message later. thanks kyak 16:06
GNUtookristianpaul, hi, I almost forgott to tell yesterday that we shouldn't count on mainline support for the htc dream16:21
GNUtoothere is some code, however it's highly incomplete and there is no interest anymore in the dream specifically16:22
GNUtookristianpaul, maybe you could finish the port?16:23
GNUtooif you have enough time16:23
GNUtoo(alsa and wifi PSM)16:23
kristianpaul(finish port)no thanks :-)16:24
GNUtooah ok16:25
GNUtooI proposed many people a device in exchange for finishing the port, every person refused16:26
GNUtoo(I've 2 htc dreams, one is from mickeyl)16:27
whitequarklarsc: have you worked on linux in last 2 months?21:20
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