#qi-hardware IRC log for Sunday, 2011-05-22

vladkorotnevhello everyone :P05:42
vladkorotnevhello everyone10:51
Fusinhello everlonely ;)10:52
vladkorotnevthe keyboard language switcher is glitching :P10:54
Jay7another set of russian chars for bot to log :)10:54
vladkorotnevone moment pls10:56
wpwrakGNUtoo, lunavorax_mini: glad you like my little hacks ;-) now you should try to, say, make you own ubb-vga board. it's not that difficult.11:26
GNUtoolol ok, I would need to buy a nanonote first11:29
kodeinhmm, I wonder where I put mine11:29
GNUtookodein, you can ping it but you can't find it?11:29
kodeinno, I've misplaced it somewhere without having it plugged in11:30
kodeinmy apartment is too big :/11:30
kodeinI heard emacs was ported now, tho, so I should make an effort to find it again11:31
GNUtooemacs or emacs-x11?11:32
kodeinI don't know, but without-x would work fine for me.11:33
GNUtoois it in openwrt or jlime?11:34
urandom__openwrt comes even with emacs in later versions11:38
Fusinemacs: eight megabytes always continuous swapping OR ESC-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift (commands) *g*11:40
kodeinemacs made adam commit sin.11:42
lunavorax_miniwpwrak, I'll do right at the end of my exams at college ;)11:43
lunavorax_minihaha kodein 11:43
GNUtoo( emacs-x11 makes qemu segfault in openembedded, but emacs (console version) compiles fine11:43
lunavorax_miniOh ! 4,72¬ for the breakout board ! I though that would be cheaper :o*11:51
GNUtookodein, maybe because of the builtin viper mode?11:58
wpwraklunavorax_mini: (right after exams) very good ! you can still be the first ;-)12:28
wpwrakkristianpaul, kristoffer: or how is your progress with ubb-vga ? :)12:28
kristianpaulwpwrak: not soldered yet, but i got all reosistors and VGA conector already...13:03
vladkorotnevhello everyone :P13:16
wpwrakkristianpaul: great. then you're merely 1-2 hours away from video :)13:39
kyakxiangfu: have you noticed that feeds.conf on buildhost still includes xfce feed and others?14:39
xiangfuchanging now. thanks for review.14:40
kyaki wonder if full trunk build would succeed next time ;)14:41
xiangfushould be :D14:47
lunavorax_miniHeya people15:54
lunavorax_miniI need some technical help about the Ben Nanonote, hardware related.15:54
lunavorax_miniI just read the datasheet of the Ben's CPU15:54
lunavorax_miniIngenic can't remember precise name15:54
lunavorax_miniSome of the pins apparently are for USB 2.0 host15:55
kristianpaulyup but thats not routed off the chip if i remenber correctly15:55
lunavorax_miniDid I understood well ? And if so, can I solder the required wires for a USB female plug or is it too risky ?15:55
lunavorax_miniOh darn15:55
kristianpaulthe _routed_ usb port is client only15:56
vladkorotnevhah, that'd be a great idea to solder the usb host pins to some sort of a connector and use it :P16:14
vladkorotnevI mean directly, without routing them on board.16:15
vladkorotnevAny ideas if that's possible?16:15
Jay7better question is why it was not routed on board16:16
kristianpaulJay7, ben nanonote is not a product made from scratch16:19
kristianpaulso i guess just was no required when it was a color digital dictionary16:19
vladkorotnevbtw, some copies of the June issue of Playboy have small Ingenic processor-based players that can have MiniOS and maybe Linux installed on it ;)16:21
Jay7I remember Vogue16:21
vladkorotnevyes, one issue of it had one as well16:23
vladkorotnevbut the playboy version has only 512MB of memory, while the Vogue one had 1GB16:23
Jay7NN have 32Mb :)16:24
vladkorotnevi mean flash16:24
Jay7well.. my Zaurus have 128Mb of NAND16:24
kristianpaulmy microntrolers have some kbyes :-D16:25
vladkorotnevIt seems I can't find the NN PCB design files. can anyone point me in the right direction please?16:25
Jay7iirc, they was not open widely but available on request16:26
Jay7but I may be wrong16:26
vladkorotnevOh, I totally forgot about my NXP Semiconductor ARM Cortex Dev kit package that's on its way to Russia! Gonna track it. Thanks kristianpaul for reminding me of this :P16:26
kristianpauli tought was a nanonote..16:27
kristianpaulminute vladkorotnev 16:27
kristianpaulis on the wiki.. just i alwayts forgot wher..16:27
vladkorotnevthanks, i'll search once more16:28
kristianpaulnot on request Jay7 16:28
kristianpaulmay be request of help to find then xD16:28
Jay7kristianpaul: then I'm wrong :)16:28
vladkorotnevah, never mind. I think I found it16:29
vladkorotnevOn the wiki, in "Ben NanoNote" category :P16:29
kristianpaulAdamwang user have a really interesting hisory of contribs :-)16:31
qi-bot[commit] kyak: busybox in trunk has changed some unicode options http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ef1173e16:33
vladkorotnevlooks like it'd be difficult to solder wires to the usb host pins, unless there are soldering pads for them on the board.16:36
kyakxMff: how do i craft the following dependance in a Makefile: "if libncursesw build variant is selected, depend on libncursesw. Otherwise, depend on libncurses"?16:40
xMff+PACKAGE_libncursesw:libncursesw +!PACKAGE_libncursesw:libncurses16:41
kyaknice, thank you :)16:42
lunavorax_minivladkorotnev, Jay7, do you have pictures of the so-called device ?16:43
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: which one?16:43
lunavorax_miniVogue and Pb ones16:43
Jay7vogue was on habrhabr.ru16:44
vladkorotnevlemme upload them16:44
lunavorax_minivladkorotnev, thank you :)16:44
vladkorotnevhttp://cl.ly/1L3t0P3d1E2H0g281b02 -- internals16:44
vladkorotnevhttp://cl.ly/1g3G0Y252D3s1c3z1i2K -- two buttons, cpu, flash16:45
kyakxMff: what do you think about this ticket and patch https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/9442 - can it be accepted?16:45
xMffkyak: has it any side effects?16:46
vladkorotnevhttp://cl.ly/020m1M3h1Z2u1w182F0U -- not disassembled16:46
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: that's it16:46
kyakxMff: not anything i know about right now. I build most ncurses apps just fine, without side effects16:47
lunavorax_minivladkorotnev, Very very very intersting16:47
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: it's almost the same16:48
lunavorax_miniHow much does the magazine cost then ?16:48
lunavorax_mini99usd ? ;)16:48
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: AFAIR approx. 89 RUR = ~$3 o_016:48
lunavorax_miniI need one :o16:49
lunavorax_minivladkorotnev, what country it is ?16:49
Action: kristianpaul too16:49
Action: Jay7 wants one too :)16:49
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: Russia :P16:49
Jay7lunavorax_mini: russia16:49
lunavorax_miniRussia isn't that far away from France after all :P16:49
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: Almost all of them are sold by now, I had a hard time finding iy16:50
lunavorax_miniI like the fact that the cpu is visible and not covered of glue/whatever16:51
kyak"Russia isn't that far away from France after all" - that's what Napoleon said ;)16:52
vladkorotnevlunavorax_mini: don't worry, you can always buy the vogue or the Pb version second-hand16:52
vladkorotnevkyak: LOL!16:52
Jay7kyak: :))16:52
Action: Jay7 trying to imagine second-hand playboy magazine16:52
lunavorax_miniYeah no16:52
vladkorotnevJay7: lol16:53
kristianpaulokay we need this same thing on a Linux Magazine :D16:53
Jay7with girls and pocker16:54
kristianpaulthen i'll start buying it :-)16:54
vladkorotnevJay7: I prefer blackjack :P16:54
lunavorax_miniJay7, "In fact, forget the magasine"16:54
Jay7lunavorax_mini: bingo! :)16:54
lunavorax_miniJay7, ;)16:54
lunavorax_minikristianpaul, the only issue of the Linux Magazine I bought was the one about the Ben :P16:55
vladkorotnevbtw, does anybody know if it's possible to get xburst-tools working on a Mac?16:56
Jay7it may depends..16:56
Jay7hard part is working with usb16:56
vladkorotnevdoesn't it use libusb?16:57
Jay7with libusb it should be easy to port then16:58
kristianpaullunavorax_mini: :-)16:58
kristianpaullunavorax_mini: ben and linux magazine on same package? ;-)16:58
Jay7it should have two pages16:59
Jay7one with printed e-paper display16:59
Jay7and one with printed keyboard16:59
vladkorotnev:D it'd be kewl16:59
vladkorotnevbtw, also, can the Ben be used to view mjpeg?17:00
lunavorax_minikristianpaul, I wish it was, it was only an article. I bought it before buying a Ben.17:00
lunavorax_miniLinux oriented magazine should stop giving free cds and start giving free Bens.17:01
xMffkyak: added17:01
Jay7may be possible for year-long subscribers17:02
Jay7vladkorotnev: it should be possible to view mpg files on ben17:02
kyakxMff: thanks!17:02
Jay7but with limited resolution/bitrage17:02
vladkorotnevJay7: i know about mpg, I want mjpeg :P17:03
vladkorotnevare there any programs out there?17:03
Jay7why not.. codecs are question :)17:03
vladkorotnevJay7: i think no.. it's more a jpeg than a movie17:03
vladkorotnevhttp://get1.vision.ufanet.ru/mjpeg/37 -- Here's an example of such a file17:04
vladkorotnevlive stream from a webcam17:04
Jay7series of jpeg images I think17:06
Jay7I've installed zoneminder with 2 ip-cams for customer one time17:07
Jay7that ip-cams producing similar stream17:07
lunavorax_minikristianpaul, do you know why does the Ben's root account doesn't have a password by default ?17:09
kristianpaultelnet it first17:10
kristianpaulthe  change password 17:10
lunavorax_miniHum ok, I'm going to try this17:10
qi-bot[commit] nbd: ath9k: clean up tx fifo handling on ar9380 based hardware http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3f884a817:54
qi-bot[commit] hcg: [omap35xx]: Remove override of max80211.sh http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bfa88b117:54
qi-bot[commit] cshore: Simple typo for kmod- prefix in alix2 target makefile. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/26031a817:54
qi-bot[commit] nbd: ath9k: fix some locking issues in the tx fifo cleanup patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f538e8b17:54
qi-bot[commit] nbd: broadcom-wl: fix uninitialized variable http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/591746417:54
qi-bot[commit] nbd: broadcom-wl: fix wild ssb_device accesses as pci_dev for legacy pci dma api http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/1d7d17d17:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [ar7] add GT701 LEDs support (#9382) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/67af01317:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for USR9108 LEDs (#9372) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/af9b1e417:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for BT Voyager 2500 (#9070) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/42c4ab017:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [kernel] refresh 2.6.37 patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/1a5f61517:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for D-Link DVA-G3810BN/TL http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/d23e67117:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [brcm63xx] refresh patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4643cac17:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for DSL-2640B rev B2 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e05323717:54
qi-bot[commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for BT Voyager 2110 (#8810) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f75d3ae17:54
qi-bot[commit] jow: [package] firewall: explictely mention network in default configuration, makes it less confusing http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f3320c517:54
qi-bot[commit] nbd: add LD_LIBRARY to cmake.mk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/26e390417:54
qi-bot[commit] jow: [package] iw: fix calculation of fractional multicast rates like 5.5Mbps due to wrong operator precedence http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7a9dd4517:54
qi-bot[commit] jow: [package] ncurses: enable C++ bindings (#9442) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9a8b34e17:54
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/49bceea17:54
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: base-files, move it to openwrt-package/nanonote-files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/539746017:54
qi-bot[commit] kyak: libpurple: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0cde87618:02
qi-bot[commit] kyak: centerim5: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d04c52918:02
qi-bot[commit] David Kühling: mplayer_jz47xx: upgrade to 0.1.5 version that supports /proc/<pid>/pagemap http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/54ae31818:36
qi-bot[commit] David Kühling: mplayer_jz47xx: fix md5-sum for updated version http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/46bda1e18:36
qi-bot[commit] kyak: update ffmpeg to a working git revision http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/73ca35718:36
qi-bot[commit] David Kühling: emacs: make programming language comments colored by default http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/773dfe118:36
qi-bot[commit] kyak: config.full_system: disable busybox's strings, enable binutils and http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/4d609cd18:36
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: data: files: add opkg.conf http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/edcfe1e18:36
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: There is now a package for SDL API man pages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/aca02e118:36
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: data: config.full_system: enable 'man' in busybox http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/860605318:36
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: There is now a ( very simple) man page viewer that supports MANPATH http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e15a70518:36
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5d8d83a18:36
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: The libsdl-doc-man Makefile is now more elegant http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/62d7bcd18:36
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system: disable libxfce4util http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9b8498d18:36
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: stardict enalbe man page search http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c911cb218:36
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: feeds.conf: disable useless feeds http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a4a100c18:36
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: libsdl-doc-man has been renamed to libsdl-dev and now includes header files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1460a7918:36
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: There is now a libncurses-dev package http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b9ee6f418:36
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: avrdude: remove BROKEN http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/bfff7c118:36
qi-bot[commit] kyak: Merge branch 'master' into trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ad8ac9918:36
kristianpaulcommit war :-)18:43
lunavorax_miniThere can only be one ;)18:46
lunavorax_minikristianpaul, telnet doesn't seems to work with my Ben19:03
lunavorax_mini(flashed with the latest image of course)19:03
kristianpaullunavorax_mini: can you ping it?19:19
kristianpaulcan you do ssh?19:32
lunavorax_miniLet me check19:33
kristianpaulif thats posible, then, i bet root have just no password19:33
lunavorax_minikristianpaul, indeed, it's possible and yes root have no password19:35
wpwrakkristianpaul: afaik, the scheamtics and layout were specifically modified for sharism. so it should have been possible to bring out usb host. i guess it's just that nobody realized how useful it would have been.22:16
kristianpaulwpwrak: oh22:19
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/setup.fig: added an arrow to drawing for atusb flashing http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/21c70eb22:39
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/: added atusb-flash script and adapted infrastructure http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e9d65fb22:39
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/flash.html: described the flashing process http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/6adfd4b22:39
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/analysis.html: emphasize that 1 MHz clock is normal without firmware http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/86ea42822:39
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/setup.html: added instructions for atusb flashing prerequisites http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/451fc8c22:39
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