| rozzin | What should I do with patches to stuff under feeds/packages/? | 02:01 |
|---|---|---|
| rozzin | Should I just send the (svn) diff to the Qi Hardware mailing-list, | 02:02 |
| kristianpaul | yeah, send patches to mail-list | 02:02 |
| rozzin | or should I move whatever package I've changed into qipackages and submit that diff, | 02:02 |
| rozzin | ? | 02:03 |
| rozzin | I have changes that I need to the OpenWRT Makefiles for gsl and mpc. | 02:03 |
| rozzin | ... and then I have some new packages to add on top of that :) | 02:04 |
| rozzin | Made a bunch of changes to GJay to make it work on OpenWRT/Ben. | 02:05 |
| rozzin | Hm. | 02:16 |
| rozzin | It looks like upstream OpenWRT has updated ncmpc already. | 02:16 |
| LunaVorax_mini | Hi everyone ! | 07:35 |
| LunaVorax_mini | Call me stupid but | 07:35 |
| LunaVorax_mini | I decided that my Ben will now replace my phone | 07:35 |
| LunaVorax_mini | As I never use my phone and as it only serve as a clock. | 07:35 |
| LunaVorax_mini | The Ben is less dangerous (no radio waves) and way more useful. | 07:35 |
| LunaVorax_mini | I wonder if that would be hard to add a "sleep" function to Gmenu2x | 09:12 |
| Jay7 | should be easy | 09:12 |
| LunaVorax_mini | To turn the screen off when the Nanonote isn't used in order to save some battery. | 09:12 |
| LunaVorax_mini | Yeah, I should look at the GMU's code. | 09:12 |
| LunaVorax_mini | Dunno if the Ben Nanonote's processor also support some sleep function and stuff. | 09:13 |
| LunaVorax_mini | Like we have on regular x86 laptops | 09:13 |
| Jay7 | echo 'mem' > ...... | 09:13 |
| Jay7 | (can't remember path) | 09:14 |
| LunaVorax_mini | What ? | 09:14 |
| Jay7 | but I'm unsure we support this right now | 09:14 |
| Jay7 | suspend to ram | 09:14 |
| Jay7 | echo mem > /sys/power/state | 09:14 |
| Jay7 | kinda this | 09:14 |
| Jay7 | or call pm-suspend | 09:15 |
| Jay7 | but as I said I'm unsure NN is supporting this | 09:15 |
| Jay7 | well.. I should go | 09:15 |
| Action: Jay7 afk | 09:16 | |
| lekernel | http://nimk.nl/eng/calendar/pixxxel-milkymist | 18:14 |
| kristianpaul | curios that i havent heard about sebastien workshops over this side of the world ;) | 18:17 |
| kristianpaul | i mean so often :-) | 18:19 |
| viric | have you seen http://www.raspberrypi.org/ ? | 22:07 |
| viric | I wonder what camera they use. | 22:08 |
| wpwrak | viric: have you seen the thread on the mailing list ? ;-) | 22:08 |
| wpwrak | (camera) a poorly mounted one, it seems :) | 22:09 |
| wpwrak | ahm i's with a cable. then the position would be determined by the case. okay, so it may be fine in the end. | 22:12 |
| viric | hm. no. the thread no. I just saw that on regular press | 22:21 |
| viric | Well. On fascist press in fact, that I was showing to someone for an example. | 22:22 |
| viric | that small 'pi' thing has openGL ES too. | 22:25 |
| wpwrak | with an open source driver ? ;-) | 22:28 |
| viric | I've no idea. They really tell little in their web site. | 22:28 |
| wpwrak | i think i know the answer already :) | 22:29 |
| viric | if it is not there, it is not open. Clear. :) | 22:32 |
| lekernel | viric: next time, bring qi hardware news to the news sites instead of bringing the crap from the news sites into qi hardware | 22:33 |
| wpwrak | that would indeed be helpful :) it's nice to hear from what's happening in the world around us, but it's a bit irritating if that makes up the majority of the discussions in "our" project ... | 22:34 |
| viric | I agree. | 22:34 |
| lekernel | I could do without such crap as this pi thing | 22:34 |
| viric | I still consider the nanonote far more useful than this pi thing, clear. | 22:35 |
| lekernel | this is just empty buzz and proprietary stuff | 22:35 |
| wpwrak | viric: (opengl) we've been hunting for open opengl quite a bit in openmoko and didn't get particularly far. all the usable chips have some proprietary component that quite spoils the fun | 22:35 |
| viric | well, I was surprised that something like this appeared in a fascist newspaper. :) | 22:35 |
| viric | wpwrak: really? I thought there were some opengl es things in mesa. | 22:35 |
| wpwrak | viric: good PR :) | 22:35 |
| lekernel | wpwrak: you can improve the milkymist tmu and get full opengl es from it | 22:36 |
| lekernel | it should be doable in a couple of months imo | 22:36 |
| wpwrak | viric: i mean on small devices (smartphone and such) | 22:36 |
| wpwrak | lekernel: heh, wish i could commit to this sort of effort | 22:36 |
| lekernel | except, of course, driver for imbecilic software like X.org | 22:36 |
| viric | what is there in linux using GL other than X.org? | 22:37 |
| viric | I've only seen GL used in X. | 22:37 |
| lekernel | yes and this is one big problem | 22:38 |
| viric | but there are small devices out there like touchscreens with GPS, running Linux (I don't know how much of GNU), and with 2D GL for sure, no? | 22:39 |
| viric | I never thought they were running any X. | 22:39 |
| viric | lekernel: have you written your synthesizer? :) | 22:40 |
| viric | I remember you wanted to do so. | 22:40 |
| lekernel | yeah. no, i'm not done with it | 22:40 |
| lekernel | if you want, you can help me sell thousands of M1s, then i'll get more time to work on that synthesizer :) | 22:41 |
| viric | I usually appear in the side of 'bad examples', when marketing people talk about me | 22:41 |
| viric | lekernel: how do you program the fpga in m1? | 22:43 |
| viric | you have jtag pins in the board? | 22:43 |
| viric | lekernel: and are the 128MB of RAM available for the linux OS there, or they are for the fpga only? | 22:44 |
| lekernel | yes, there is JTAG on board, and this is one way (among others) to load the FPGA | 22:44 |
| viric | hm sorry. I'm mixing things. I thought mikymist was a spartan 6 attached to a nanonote board | 22:44 |
| viric | (so, with a linux running in something very similar to the nanonote) | 22:45 |
| viric | but is there a linux running in a cpu in the fpga? | 22:45 |
| lekernel | there's uclinux yes | 22:45 |
| lekernel | with 128M RAM | 22:45 |
| viric | ah uclinux | 22:45 |
| lekernel | yeah | 22:45 |
| viric | that's basically linux without mmu? | 22:45 |
| lekernel | yes. there is an existing effort to add a MMU to milkymist, but i'm not throwing much energy into it | 22:46 |
| viric | ok | 22:46 |
| lekernel | it brings zero feature to my application | 22:46 |
| lekernel | it's just geeky fun | 22:46 |
| viric | :) | 22:46 |
| viric | the milkymist soc is in verilog, right? | 22:46 |
| lekernel | yes | 22:47 |
| viric | that keeps me a bit out meanwhile. | 22:47 |
| viric | What can't uclinux do? I mean... I know the effects of no mmu. but I don't know how that maps to syscalls | 22:50 |
| lekernel | why? | 22:50 |
| lekernel | if you're good at vhdl it shouldn't be hard to pick up verilog | 22:50 |
| viric | I also think so | 22:50 |
| viric | has userland software to be any special to run for uclinux? | 22:50 |
| lekernel | no fork/mmap, and wild pointers can do a lot of harm | 22:51 |
| wpwrak | hmm, whay's the antonym of "to tame" ? "feralize" probably isn't in the dictionary ... :) | 22:51 |
| viric | lekernel: but there should be a fork/mmap syscall anyway | 22:51 |
| wpwrak | of course, in a way, that just makes it better, hmm ... | 22:51 |
| viric | lekernel: otherwise it reduces a lot the amount of userland reusable | 22:51 |
| lekernel | there's some support indeed | 22:52 |
| lekernel | for a few cases | 22:52 |
| viric | hm ok· | 22:52 |
| viric | Sorry for not having looked more at milkymist still | 22:52 |
| viric | ok, late in CEST. Good night! | 22:54 |
| lekernel | gn8 | 22:55 |
| wpwrak | grmbl. vga+lcd together doesn't seem to work anymore. sigh. so much about a cool "press photo". | 23:07 |
| kristianpaul | just stoped working ? or.. | 23:08 |
| wpwrak | one of the changes since i had it working may have broken it. or maybe it just has a low probability of working in the first place. all the timing is very fragile. | 23:09 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: btw, have you build your ubb-vga yet ? :) | 23:10 |
| wpwrak | kristoffer: and how about yours ? :) | 23:10 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: he, not but is on my todo | 23:11 |
| kristianpaul | i will | 23:11 |
| wpwrak | only takes about 1-2 hours to make. most of the time goes into figuring out which vga wire goes where. | 23:11 |
| kristianpaul | okay i'll source the vga female connector tomorrow | 23:12 |
| kristianpaul | oh, make brd is working | 23:14 |
| wpwrak | in ubb-vga ? yes, but it shows you an untested design | 23:15 |
| kristianpaul | ah np not thiking in making a brd ;) | 23:15 |
| wpwrak | that is basically my best idea for a mechanically sound cable so far | 23:15 |
| wpwrak | i did the layout mainly to check if the idea would work at all, with enough room for things, etc. | 23:16 |
| wpwrak | the corresponding schematics are also slightly different, "make schp" | 23:16 |
| wpwrak | note that i switched Y and R, to have better ground connectivity. so the colors would be off with the current driver. fixing that is just a matter of changing two #defines, though | 23:17 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-vga.c: moved timer setup and LCD disabling into noirq setup http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/f7e8fbb | 23:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-vga: new option -2 to keep on refreshing the LCD display (experimental) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/ba1d297 | 23:25 |
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