| wpwrak | rejon: ah, here's one upper bound for the resolution: the maximum MMC block size is 2048 bytes. so a line couldn't be larger than this many samples/pixels. of course, the real limit may be much lower ... | 00:53 |
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| rejon | aha | 00:53 |
| rjeffries_ | MMC association closed up shop and merged into JDEC http://www.mmca.org/ | 01:36 |
| wpwrak | rjeffries_: yup | 01:43 |
| wpwrak | rjeffries_: you can still get the docs, though | 01:44 |
| wpwrak | rjeffries_: they make you "register", but they don't require a valid e-mail address | 01:44 |
| rjeffries_ | cool beans | 02:17 |
| rjeffries_ | your right angle connector for connecting a scope (or anything else) to UBB looks useful | 02:18 |
| wpwrak | rjeffries_: yeah, i'm already putting it to use :) | 02:28 |
| qi-bot | [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Add Firmware 5.10.56.27 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/21ca38e | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Expose debug option http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3c0289d | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Expose PIO mode fallback http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/525ee45 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Expose N-PHY support http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f3a65e7 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: busybox: fix issues with static routes and 6rd option parsing (thx, Florian Fuessl) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9649fa8 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: busybox: refresh patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3564c67 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] jow: [package] firewall: prevent excessive uci state data aggregation (#9152) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/8d0ec89 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] jow: [package] ppp: prevent duplicate hotplug for non uci managed ppp interfaces (#9275) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/920b7c5 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] jow: [package] ppp: extend the r26742 change to ip-down too http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2be8e60 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: mac80211: update to wireless-testing 2011-04-19, contains several beacon related fixes for ath9k http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/83ef4a5 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] hauke: mac80211: remove unneeded patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e7a0967 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] acoul: linux/ar71xx: add 2.6.38 preliminary support http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/dfba2f5 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] acoul: linux/ar71xx: update wget2nand script http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b7a26a7 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] acoul: linux/adm5120: update wget2nand script http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/15b4a06 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: hostapd: update to 2011-04-21 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/454a4d2 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: mac80211: do rate control updates when the HT configuration changes on an interface http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4e1f633 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: hostapd: fix a few compile errors and warnings http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4feb070 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: cfg80211: revert upstream regdomain handling breakage http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9df10a2 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: ath9k: remove the signal strength fix, it causes a lot of confusion and seems to be just as inaccurate as the original version of the code http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0318dc0 | 02:34 |
| qi-bot | [commit] nbd: mac80211: replace the regd revert patch with a proper fix, add some more pending patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/542d043 | 02:34 |
| wpwrak | aha, we're getting a new kernel :) | 02:35 |
| kristianpaul | http://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/index.htm :D | 02:35 |
| xiangfu | update the 'trunk' branch first. :) | 02:36 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: collecting reading material for the 1st of may ? :) | 02:37 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: he, no actually, i get to that link because of http://www.copenhagenfreeuniversity.dk/ <-- we have won!! | 02:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | .oO(???) | 02:46 |
| wolfspraul | yes very cool. we have won! | 02:48 |
| wpwrak | "This is why we haven’t published papers or dissertations to wrap up the research projects that we have worked with." keeping a rather low profile, are we ? :) | 02:48 |
| akiwiguy | Hello. | 03:54 |
| xiangfu | akiwiguy: hi | 04:02 |
| akiwiguy | Hi xiangfu | 09:47 |
| xiangfu | akiwiguy: Hi | 09:48 |
| xiangfu | akiwiguy: I have to reboot my system. back online later. :) | 09:53 |
| kyak | o hi David | 09:56 |
| kyak | i'm trying to build the latest MPlayer | 09:57 |
| kyak | when ffmpeg checkout, i have this error: fatal: reference is not a tree: 3d462373f8e8fa58b697a9b2d93a5edf70841937 | 09:57 |
| kyak | so far, i will download you copy of Mplayer http://mosquito.dyndns.tv/david/nanonote/MPlayer-r33304.tar.gz to proceed further | 09:57 |
| dvdk | kyak: huh? why did it work for me? hmm. cannot access my sources from work. | 09:57 |
| dvdk | kyak: going to look into this maybe tomorrow | 09:58 |
| dvdk | btw what I catually came here to report: :) | 09:58 |
| kyak | dvdk: i read a bit, it seems such things can happend on big commit to git | 09:58 |
| dvdk | Finally somebody is fighting back against the MPEGLA maffia: | 09:58 |
| dvdk | http://blog.webmproject.org/2011/04/introducing-webm-community-cross.html | 09:59 |
| dvdk | kyak: any ideas how to prevent such a thing in the future? | 09:59 |
| dvdk | kyak: the tgz you downloaded is exactly from my openwrt/dl directory, so 100% matches my config | 10:00 |
| kyak | dvdk: i'm not sure that such things happen very often to worry about it.. | 10:00 |
| dvdk | kyak: well from the sample we have, it happens 1 out of 2 times :) | 10:00 |
| kyak | i'm not a git superuser at all, i found this explanation: | 10:01 |
| kyak | "Oops, someone made a super-project commit that refers to an unpublished commit in the submodule sub" | 10:01 |
| dvdk | kyak: already gave up on comprehinding git :) | 10:01 |
| kyak | so we need to pick another commit :) | 10:01 |
| dvdk | kyak: feel free to search one that actually works :) | 10:01 |
| dvdk | s/works/still works | 10:02 |
| dvdk | wolfspraul: look who joins the google-webm cross licensing: MIPs Technologies (see link above) | 10:02 |
| kyak | is it a fair assumption that the latest one shoudl work? | 10:02 |
| dvdk | kyak: the one i used, was the latest one from maybe saturday. so just try. | 10:03 |
| kyak | dvdk: anyway, the build of mplayer from your sources has just finished successfully | 10:03 |
| dvdk | i.e. "yes" | 10:03 |
| dvdk | kyak: makefile still missing code to add back proprietary codecs when build_patented set. | 10:03 |
| dvdk | hope you're not disappointed | 10:03 |
| dvdk | also i removed mpeg1 support, mayb can add that back, since too old for patents. | 10:04 |
| kyak | dvdk: is OK for me as long as your driver works find and ogg is playable | 10:13 |
| dvdk | kyak: ok. btw without the ffmpeg ogg demuxer, it only uses libtheora (not fftheora). with libtheora some high-detail scenes jerk at 320x240, 25fps. | 10:16 |
| dvdk | kyak: so you might also want to try webm (seems to work, just the encoder is slower and not as well-tuned as ffmpeg2theora) | 10:17 |
| dvdk | maybe recompiling libtheora with -O2 might help. dunno | 10:17 |
| kyak | ok.. are you using the same settings for ffmpeg2theora as you described in your e-mail? or something has changed? | 10:18 |
| dvdk | kyak: wrote two emails. first try was 256x144 with upscaling, which shouldn't be a problem, even at 30fps. | 10:18 |
| dvdk | however 320x176 may jerk, at least at 30fps. | 10:18 |
| dvdk | kyak: no , nothing has changed. just that i did some more encodes with diffferent materials for testing over the last days. | 10:19 |
| dvdk | wolfspraul: saw the webm-cross-licensing they just started? http://www.webm-ccl.org/ | 10:21 |
| wolfspraul | yes great | 10:21 |
| wolfspraul | it doesn't help much specifically (legally), but it builds up a certain 'counterforce' | 10:21 |
| wolfspraul | always good | 10:21 |
| wolfspraul | they got some nice partners too, like LG and Samsung | 10:22 |
| dvdk | wolfspraul: not sure whether they can use it for counter-suing. nothing about that in there agreement. | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | just watch out - this kind of deal only means that those companies cross-license to each other :-) | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | oh no | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | the typical patent troll totally doesn't care about this | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | neither will mpeg la | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | but it's good for the press and general audience | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | "lots of big companies - must be good" | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | that kind of thing | 10:22 |
| wolfspraul | I'm glad they do it, otherwise the other side has their loudspeakers on all the time... | 10:23 |
| dvdk | wolfspraul: even MIPS Inc joined the party. | 10:23 |
| dvdk | wolfspraul: well, they could turn webm-ccl into a pantent-pool for h264 :) every licensee would have to promise never suing against webm users :) | 10:24 |
| kyak | dvdk: ok, great.. i hope i have some time to do some testing in next few days :) | 10:33 |
| wpwrak | roh: hmm, i have to leave joker.com ... is godaddy.com an acceptable domain registrar ? (just for almesberger.net) | 11:02 |
| roh | wpwrak: eeh.. dunno. i never bought domains that way | 11:05 |
| roh | i always told somebody and ever few years they ask some decent for money | 11:05 |
| roh | eh.. the for needs to shl 2 words | 11:06 |
| wpwrak | roh: heh, outsourcing is nice ;-) ah well, i guess i'll just try my luck | 11:08 |
| roh | wpwrak: wait a moment.. asking him | 11:08 |
| mth | wpwrak: they weren't very popular in a recent slashdot discussion: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/04/22/0144213/IMSLP-Taken-Down-By-UK-Publishers-Group | 11:09 |
| roh | wpwrak: why do you have to leave them? | 11:09 |
| roh | godaddy isnt good i hear... troublesome to get domains back when they got them | 11:09 |
| akiwiguy | Godaddy sucks. | 11:10 |
| roh | wpwrak: my expert says: 'stay at joker.com' | 11:12 |
| wpwrak | roh: almesberger.net is about to expire and renewal by credit card requires "verified by visa" or the mastercard equivalent. alternatively, i could wire the money, but for this, i'd have to register as a reseller, which adds even more bureaucracy | 11:12 |
| roh | i see. and you got no cc? | 11:12 |
| wpwrak | roh: i have visa and mastercard, but i don't want those extra verifications. because once you agree to them, a lot of online transactions get more complicated/unreliable, and the contract terms are changed as well | 11:14 |
| akiwiguy | http://networksolutions.com | 11:14 |
| roh | wpwrak: i see. | 11:15 |
| roh | akiwiguy: irgh. | 11:15 |
| roh | wpwrak: how much time is left? maybe you can find somebody with a cc in europe to do the payment for you | 11:15 |
| akiwiguy | roh: Whats wrong with that? | 11:15 |
| roh | akiwiguy: dark side ;) | 11:16 |
| wpwrak | roh: about three weeks left | 11:17 |
| roh | wpwrak: i see.. maybe gismo can help. i think he got some cc | 11:17 |
| roh | i dont | 11:17 |
| wpwrak | roh: (payment via proxy) seems rather convoluted :) naw, i'll just take my business somewhere where they're not so difficult | 11:18 |
| roh | wpwrak: its a generic problem. | 11:19 |
| wpwrak | roh: it's the first relevant placed i've seen that doesn't offer sensible payment options. normally, you just pay with your cc with no further ado. | 11:20 |
| wpwrak | s/placed/place/ | 11:21 |
| roh | wpwrak: cc billing for non-eu/us customers is hell. | 11:22 |
| roh | i can tell you that for sure after living through it with om | 11:23 |
| roh | SEPA rules btw | 11:23 |
| wpwrak | roh: dunno. never had trouble so far. worst case, they ask you to e-mail a photo of your passport. | 11:25 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: i see that you're using enom.com. are you happy with them ? | 11:27 |
| wpwrak | enom.com looks reasonably clean. good faq. no cheesy stuff like "domain auctions". well, they have "premium domains", so they're in the squatter biz, too | 11:41 |
| wpwrak | roh: (cc for non-eu/us) most of the weird things are connected to the issuing bank, not the card holder's country of residence. so with my swiss-issued cards, i have no trouble, where the argentina-issued one is basically useless abroad. both have exactly the same owner information. | 11:47 |
| wpwrak | roh: ironically, the cards from .ch are even less trouble inside argentina (here, they very often require shops to call in to verify a transaction. but they never do this with my foreign cards) | 11:48 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: enom is fine, but I have no moral standards, I think that industry stinks | 11:56 |
| wolfspraul | I find them expensive | 11:57 |
| wolfspraul | and yes they do lots of cheesy things, like everybody else | 11:57 |
| wolfspraul | I was seriously thinking sometimes about advertising IP addresses instead ;-) | 11:57 |
| wolfspraul | but maybe that's a bit too radical... | 11:57 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (ip addr) ;-))) may get tricky with e-mail | 11:59 |
| kristianpaul | hey no, advertising IP addresses is not a bad idea if you consider that from ipv6 you may get some sense ip number to remenber easilly ;) | 13:50 |
| kristianpaul | hmm email | 13:51 |
| kristianpaul | hash based email ;) | 13:52 |
| kristianpaul | i like that indea from the i2p network | 13:52 |
| kristianpaul | s/indea/idea | 13:55 |
| kristianpaul | what gell this does? :(){ :|: & };: | 16:00 |
| kristianpaul | s/gell/hell | 16:00 |
| larsc | kristianpaul: forkbomb | 16:13 |
| larsc | declares a function namend ":" which calles itself twice | 16:14 |
| kristianpaul | ouch | 16:15 |
| kristianpaul | i tought the : was a null character | 16:16 |
| kristianpaul | what the ; for? | 16:16 |
| kristianpaul | ah, just to close the brackets.. | 16:17 |
| kristianpaul | he, anywya | 16:17 |
| xiangfu | kristianpaul: larsc make my system, as you see, I have to reboot. | 16:18 |
| xiangfu | make my system freeze | 16:18 |
| xiangfu | :) | 16:18 |
| kristianpaul | ;) | 16:18 |
| kristianpaul | ah wikipedia have an article about it.nice | 16:21 |
| larsc | you can do all sorts of smiley-bombs :-() {:-| :-} ;-| | 16:24 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: how sweet, a fork-bomb. didn't think you could redefine ":" | 16:24 |
| kristianpaul | me either | 16:27 |
| wpwrak | larsc: that one may actually be recoverable, since it's linear | 16:27 |
| Action: kristianpaul what other special chars can be redefined.. | 16:29 | |
| wpwrak | = too ;-) | 16:30 |
| larsc | is : a special char in shell? | 16:32 |
| kristianpaul | dunno, is it? | 16:33 |
| kristianpaul | i just tought it was | 16:33 |
| wpwrak | larsc: not in a function name, only in a variable name | 16:33 |
| larsc | have upyou ever used it when writing shell scripts? | 16:33 |
| kristianpaul | not me.. | 16:34 |
| wpwrak | here's a nice one (safe to use): 2+2() { echo 5; } | 16:34 |
| wpwrak | larsc: yes, the single : yes. but never thought of redefining it. | 16:34 |
| kristianpaul | hmm zsh may protect me :) | 16:35 |
| wpwrak | larsc: makes sense, though. after all, you can also have things line git-commit but not foo-bar=2 | 16:35 |
| larsc | ah... : is a nop | 16:39 |
| larsc | but well, you can alias other commands as well | 16:41 |
| wpwrak | grmbl. need to remount / ... | 16:41 |
| kristianpaul | nop, yeah, at first it tought it was so inoffensive | 16:42 |
| wpwrak | GRRR | 16:45 |
| wpwrak | file system still broken | 16:46 |
| Fusin | :) | 20:24 |
| rjeffries | wpwrak I have used godaddy to register domains, never had an issue | 20:57 |
| mth | whitequark: it seems the autotools support in jzboot in the qi-hardware repository is incomplete | 22:15 |
| mth | automake refuses to process Makefile.am since there is no conifgure.ac | 22:15 |
| mth | or configure.in, I always forget what is the old name and what is the new one | 22:17 |
| xMff | .in is old | 22:22 |
| xMff | .ac is new | 22:22 |
| wpwrak | rejon: if looking for consortia, maybe also consider CELF | 23:30 |
| rejon | do you know anyone at CELF? | 23:36 |
| rejon | any intros appreciated | 23:36 |
| Jay7 | rejon: Tim Bird | 23:37 |
| rejon | ok | 23:37 |
| rejon | please email me intro | 23:37 |
| rejon | jon@sharism.cc | 23:37 |
| Jay7 | rejon: what do you need there? | 23:38 |
| Jay7 | and for your info, CELF is merged with LF | 23:39 |
| wpwrak | Jay7: oh, i didn't know of this merger | 23:41 |
| Jay7 | Richard Purdie may be right person to contact too | 23:41 |
| Jay7 | he is LF Fellow now | 23:41 |
| rejon | ok, great | 23:42 |
| rejon | lets get some more people involved in what we doing is the goal | 23:42 |
| Jay7 | well | 23:42 |
| Jay7 | rejon: I'll email you their contacts | 23:43 |
| Jay7 | rejon: sent | 23:46 |
| rejon | great | 23:48 |
| rejon | thanks | 23:48 |
| Jay7 | rejon: /whois RP or RP__ | 23:48 |
| Jay7 | this is Richard | 23:48 |
| Jay7 | well.. | 23:49 |
| Action: Jay7 -> sleep | 23:49 | |
| rejon | ;) | 23:52 |
| rejon | ha | 23:52 |
| rejon | brb | 23:52 |
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