#qi-hardware IRC log for Saturday, 2011-03-19

tuxbrainalso I think I have found my clean starting points http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/widgets-codeeditor.html http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/richtext-syntaxhighlighter.html00:01
tuxbrainyea qt is also 4.7 on NN openwrt :)00:02
wolfspraultuxbrain: do you see any orders from it? let's see whether we can create sales...00:03
tuxbrainwolfspraul: slightly increase but I don't now if they are directly from this apart of two of them than they have also bought an arduino an UBB :)00:07
tuxbrainbut I think is a sure bet still workin in that way, we have rised quite good impresion, in all levels from pro to rookie, now is time to demostrate that is not just a hack but a new way of work with Arduino :)00:09
tuxbrainand (avr chips)00:10
rjeffrieswpwrak does the Femtoduino have what's needed so it can be programmed from Ben + UBB?00:13
wpwrakrjeffries: yup, looks good00:14
wpwrakrjeffries: you need MISO, MOSI, SCK, RESET, GND, and VCC00:14
rjeffriestoo cool I hope Sparkfun or someone decides to build femtoduino00:14
tuxbrainthe code editor seems preety simple and straigh forward I like it :) , the code highlighter is a little bit more complex... this will be forwarded to next version :), Wolfgang do you mind to host ardunano Ide in qi-hardware projects when I have some code created?00:21
tuxbraintime to some sleep, good night dudes :)00:24
wolfspraulof course qi is all yours00:25
wolfspraulthat's what the servers are for00:25
wolfspraulC-Keen: great news, I'm happy you could reflash...03:41
wolfspraula small step for C-Keen ... :-)03:41
whitequarktuxbrain: just curious, why develop a new ide when arduino already has one?03:59
whitequarkmaybe it's easier to fork04:00
rjeffriesSteve Mosher said on FB re tuxbrain and UBB: Steven wrote: "Hot Damn. I need to hook back up with those guys.. maybe write code again, ive been getting my skills back in order"05:34
tuxbrainwhitequark: Due Arduino IDE is written in Java and was thinked with desktop screens in mind, in this case fork will supose a lot of work and java will eat a lot of our preciouse 32Mb of ram, so in this case better make a separate solution08:51
sujanhi, where is the new openwrt image for nanonote?09:20
rohhuh? ide? just add an editor and a makefile09:23
rohthere is even a makefile already in the svn. just need to fix the tool-pathes to use system avr-gcc etc not the ones binary in the svn checkout09:24
rohbasically one only needs the /hardware/ tree of the arduino svn09:25
larscroh: but you won't have the #include magic then09:25
larscand also no play button09:25
rohlarsc: the makefile does it09:25
rohplay is 'make'09:25
Jay7there was some IDE-like text-mode things10:20
Jay7iirc, fpe10:20
Jay7well, fte and rhide seems good enough :)10:31
tuxbrainroh: target is to catch the Arduino users, all them , and the most are just scared , terrified abuot shell things.... I know joe+make is enough, even we can make some preprocesing script to add the #include magic, but the objective is to atracc costumers, we can have an efficient way also (console based, sure I will use this more than the qt ide) but I'm in dayly contact with Arduino users, and if they see a shell they just look to another side. Let'10:39
tuxbrains make them desire the NN with : bells and whistles, and the play button   if needed :)10:39
tuxbrainand let the console to real avr guys10:40
tuxbrainsujan: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/2011-02-23/10:41
rohtuxbrain: the make file already does the adding the include and such10:50
rohyou only need the .pde file really10:50
tuxbrainroh: you don't have to add manually to the makefile the includes to link? how?10:51
rohuh.. dunno. to link?10:51
rohyou mean libs?10:51
rohno clue how that should work10:52
rohi never used the java thing to be fair. much too bad documented for somebody knowing how to use make10:52
tuxbrainAFAIK that's part of what the IDE does, generate the make file for the pde, and it include the libs used to generate the hex file10:53
tuxbrainarduino libs is part of the arduino success10:54
tuxbrainalso there is tons of third party libs that arduino makes easy to add, just copy in a dir, and you are done10:55
rohwell.. not magic. just build some script that does it.11:00
sujanis there any instructions on using apps on the new openwrt image11:05
wpwraktuxbrain: $(CC) ...stuff... $(patsubst %.lib,-l%,$(wildcard *.lib))11:07
wpwrakyes ! finished migrating the last 3 months worth of mail. finally ! :)11:21
tuxbrainwpwrak: congrats dude :), such admin task are not usually apreciated and requires a lot of time :)11:35
wolfspraulwpwrak: so werner@almesberger.net is your new primary address now?11:37
wpwrakwolfspraul: yup. until that machine breaks :)11:40
wpwrakwolfspraul: anything sent to werner@openmoko.org will still be forwarded while openmoko.org lasts11:41
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