| lekernel | zrafa: looks like a mobile phone being reverse engineered | 05:42 |
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| wolfspraul | steve|m: oh nice | 05:42 |
| wolfspraul | yes, here's the story... | 05:42 |
| lekernel | steve|m: how do you scrape those pcb layers? | 05:42 |
| wolfspraul | steve|m noticed that I did a number of delayerings, and he wanted to give me some more boards | 05:42 |
| wolfspraul | I explained the whole background to him, street jobs for 100 USD, or big reverse corp (ma-tek.com) for 2000 USD, etc. | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | and in the end he decided he can just try it himself! :-) | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | so he took a sandpaper and went through the pcb | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | just manually, that's how the 'street jobs' folks will do it too | 05:43 |
| lekernel | ah, just sandpaper? | 05:43 |
| lekernel | cool | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | yes | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | :-) | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | then I asked him to document that a little, also to write a short mail somewhere saying which sandpaper he used, what he learnt... | 05:44 |
| wolfspraul | I guess those pictures are the first part of it. | 05:44 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: do you know www.ma-tek.com ? | 05:45 |
| lekernel | no | 05:45 |
| wolfspraul | it's a nice analysis company, maybe 50 people or so, and they have all equipment right there | 05:45 |
| wolfspraul | you would like the place :-) | 05:45 |
| wolfspraul | they do analysis (mostly ic, of course they can do pcb too) for many customers (see their website) | 05:45 |
| lekernel | "The Best R&D Partner"... this says a lot about what kind of R&D is carried out in Asia :) | 05:46 |
| wpwrak_ | .cn = copy nation :) | 05:47 |
| wolfspraul | not true | 05:47 |
| wolfspraul | this is a good company | 05:47 |
| wolfspraul | and it's Taiwan, not China | 05:47 |
| wolfspraul | but they have offices in China of course, the Chinese government gives huge subsidies to this type of analysis/reversing company | 05:47 |
| wpwrak_ | wolfspraul: now they'll arrest your for sedition | 05:48 |
| wolfspraul | anyway they do ANALYSIS | 05:48 |
| wolfspraul | you think way too narrow if you think that's all just copying | 05:48 |
| lekernel | oh, I never said they're not a good company... they must be good at their analysis job :) | 05:48 |
| wolfspraul | they are used to analyze the failures of particular ics | 05:48 |
| wolfspraul | of course they are also used for competitive analysis | 05:48 |
| wolfspraul | like "what are the others doing" | 05:48 |
| wolfspraul | they are used for quality control | 05:49 |
| wolfspraul | they are used for ip litigation, i.e. to proove that another chip has my technology inside | 05:49 |
| wolfspraul | anyway they are just analyzing, they are agnostic as to what their customers do with the data they create | 05:49 |
| wolfspraul | it's a good company, really | 05:49 |
| wolfspraul | if we ever move into ic land, I'm sure we will have some jobs for them. | 05:49 |
| wolfspraul | they are small, focused, run by an amazing founder, reasonably priced, etc. | 05:50 |
| wolfspraul | really cool people | 05:50 |
| wpwrak_ | (when going into chips) i wouldn't be surprised if that service came as part of the package from the chip manufacturer | 05:56 |
| wpwrak_ | agreed on the relevance of the other cases, though | 05:57 |
| kristianpaul | wow just sandpaper? | 07:13 |
| kristianpaul | s/?/! | 07:13 |
| wolfspraul | kristianpaul: yes. it's amazing how often simple technology works :-) | 07:27 |
| viric | 07:31 | |
| kristianpaul | it is | 07:35 |
| zrafa | wolfspraul: nice ! :) (about steve job) | 08:17 |
| wolfspraul | kyak: you there? building config.full_system I get an error about not finding libgfortran.so.* | 08:44 |
| wolfspraul | have you seen something like this before? | 08:44 |
| lekernel | btw, can the nanonote run Windows CE? | 08:46 |
| wolfspraul | no idea | 08:46 |
| lekernel | he, apparently yes | 08:46 |
| kristianpaul | lekernel: yes | 08:51 |
| kristianpaul | but i never tried of course :p | 08:52 |
| lekernel | well, if you have GNU patches to merge upstream, putting windows CE forward could be a nice way to motivate the FSF maintainers imo :) | 08:52 |
| lekernel | microsoft hatred is the only thing that moves them | 08:53 |
| kristianpaul | hehe | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | for now it seems when I remove octave, plplot and libgfortran, things work again | 09:36 |
| kyak | wolfspraul: this might have something to do with fortran support, recently added by David - i think he should know better, because i didn't build gfortran | 09:50 |
| wolfspraul | yes I am preparing an email to the list, I think that's the easiest way to reach him | 09:55 |
| wolfspraul | probably easy to fix... | 09:55 |
| wolfspraul | kyak: did the iconv/gettext situation improve? is there anything that bugs you? | 09:56 |
| wolfspraul | let me look at our troublemaker tickets :-) | 09:57 |
| kyak | the situation hasn't improved, i.e. there is no solution to switch between full and stub iconv/gettext; but it doesn't really bug me, because we have these overriden | 09:59 |
| wolfspraul | ok but I think a more general solution will be introduced at some point | 10:00 |
| wolfspraul | I keep an eye on it. the tickets are also still there... | 10:01 |
| kyak | yes, like mirko said | 10:01 |
| kyak | so let's hope it will be introduced in next weeks | 10:01 |
| wolfspraul | ok I see mplayer has not yet made it into config.full_system? | 10:03 |
| kyak | yes, it's not there.. i'm still wondering if it's realy clean :) | 10:04 |
| wolfspraul | why did you disable mencoder? | 10:06 |
| kyak | good question.. at first i thought "let's see how mplayer would build, leave mencoder apart" and than i thought "who needs mencoder on Ben?" | 10:09 |
| wolfspraul | ah ok | 10:15 |
| wolfspraul | that's natural :-) | 10:15 |
| wolfspraul | for some reason over the years I ran into many systems/distros that for some unexplicable (to me) reason left out mencoder | 10:16 |
| kyak | it's just usually packaged separately :) | 10:16 |
| kyak | the case in mandriva | 10:17 |
| B_Lizzard | Hey, how do I produce a NAND-ready kernel image from a uImage used for MicroSD installations? | 10:37 |
| B_Lizzard | I wonder if that made any sense. | 10:38 |
| larsc | not to me | 10:41 |
| B_Lizzard | :) | 10:44 |
| B_Lizzard | I think rafa's helping me, in any case | 10:44 |
| B_Lizzard | Thanks | 10:44 |
| lekernel | at least some interesting stuff about the kinect: http://www.futurepicture.org/?p=116 | 10:54 |
| lekernel | better than all the buzz about this stupid open source DRIVER... lol! | 10:55 |
| lekernel | those micro patterned lenses would also be something fun to play with... | 10:57 |
| zrafa | kyak: you could need mencoder to scale some video to fit nn screen? | 11:03 |
| zrafa | kyak: just thinking.. no idea if it would be really useful for people | 11:03 |
| zrafa | kyak: and maybe it is really hard to build without any codecs (and just ogg and theora) | 11:04 |
| kristianpaul | milkynect? :-) | 11:04 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: that's a very nice blog! I'll add it to the Qi planet... | 11:04 |
| kristianpaul | wow yes | 11:07 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: please add this if you like usrp/gnu radio blog for qi http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/gnu-radio/gnu-radio-blog | 11:09 |
| wpwrak_ | DocScrutinizer: first result with the crystal: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/redesign-xtal/ | 11:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | HEH \o/ | 11:43 |
| wpwrak_ | DocScrutinizer: doesn't get much cleaner, does it ? :) the signal seems a bit weak, though. could be a soldering problem. | 11:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | looks *much* better to me, no? | 11:44 |
| wpwrak_ | yay ! | 11:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, doesn't get... yes, as good as it gets :-) | 11:45 |
| wpwrak_ | ah, caught the antenna at a bad angle. taking a new spectrum ... | 11:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, mission accomplished :-D | 11:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | congrats | 11:47 |
| wpwrak_ | DocScrutinizer: reload. peak is a nice 40 dB above noise. maybe i can get rid of the thingy at +0.5 MHz, too. | 11:47 |
| wpwrak_ | (may be leakage from the PLL, though) | 11:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's single sideband, that's most likely an artefact | 11:48 |
| wpwrak_ | it's at the center frequency | 11:48 |
| lekernel | wpwrak_: what spectrum analyzer do you have? | 11:49 |
| wpwrak_ | the large peak is at center -0.5 MHz. the constant wave is center +/- 0.5 MHz | 11:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 11:49 |
| wpwrak_ | lekernel: none :) it's a USRP2 | 11:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | check your USXRY | 11:49 |
| wpwrak_ | my what ? :) | 11:50 |
| lekernel | wpwrak_: what's the highest frequency there's a usrp daughterboard for? | 11:50 |
| wpwrak_ | lekernel: i think ~5.8 GHz (the board says it goes up to 6.1 GHz) | 11:52 |
| lekernel | mh, ok. a bit too low for my purposes :( | 11:52 |
| wpwrak_ | lekernel: if you're looking for spectrum analyzers up to 9.4 GHz, here are some that are quite low-cost in comparison: http://www.spectran.com/ | 12:01 |
| lekernel | he, not too bad. thanks for the link! | 12:01 |
| lekernel | usrp would be nicer, as the purpose is to measure the frequency variation induced by a vibrating piezo in a microwave cavity | 12:02 |
| lekernel | with potential corrections so get the frequency modulation waveform that I want at the end | 12:02 |
| kyak | zrafa: heh, you are right, it's doubtful that someone would upload a video to Ben, encode it there and then watch it :) btw, are you aware about other open codecs other than ogg and theora? | 12:03 |
| lekernel | but perhaps I could get away with just a spectrum analyzer or frequency counter... need to check | 12:03 |
| lekernel | basically depends on the linearity of the piezo and absence of mechanical resonances... | 12:05 |
| kyak | i understood "basically" -] | 12:06 |
| lekernel | also I'm working around 9.35GHz, so it's near the limit of those devices :( | 12:07 |
| kristianpaul | ask ettus | 12:08 |
| wpwrak_ | lekernel: you could design your own RF frontend. 9.4 GHz ought to be fun :) | 12:11 |
| lekernel | nope. I just want my radar to work. not to involve in those things | 12:11 |
| lekernel | so it's going to be with OTS equipment | 12:12 |
| lekernel | later i'll try to get my hands on a car cruise control system to scavenge the 77GHz radio. _this_ is fun (and would increase the radar resolution a lot) and what I want to spend my time on. not design 9.4GHz frontends | 12:14 |
| wpwrak_ | 77 GHz sounds nice :) | 12:20 |
| lekernel | http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/channel.html?channel=db3a30431ddc9372011e213568da414b | 12:21 |
| lekernel | there I think I'll have to design some equipment from scratch :p | 12:21 |
| lekernel | the DRO running at 19 GHz provides a highly accurate signal to the PLL circuit | 12:22 |
| lekernel | hehehe | 12:22 |
| wpwrak_ | you could chain a few plls. start with a 32.768 kHz watch crystal ;-)) | 12:24 |
| lekernel | those chips seem to require an interview to order, so i'll probably need to use some reverse engineering as well... | 12:24 |
| lekernel | oh, i'll use pre-mounted boards from actual car cruise control systems | 12:25 |
| lekernel | much easier to find than the chips | 12:25 |
| lekernel | and easier to work with (at this frequency you work with bare dies and micromanipulators) | 12:25 |
| lekernel | it's going to be a nice challenge :) | 12:25 |
| lekernel | but I'm exercising with a cheaper and easier 9.35GHz design first | 12:26 |
| wpwrak_ | i'll just wait for your 2012 version that uses neutrinos :) | 12:27 |
| kristianpaul | if you get evil please dont make an ADS :-) | 12:31 |
| lekernel | (crystal) DROs are pretty stable already. the (super cheap) 9.35GHz one I have on my desk atm has a specified < 5MHz frequency drift | 12:31 |
| zrafa | kyak: (codecs) no much.. .. BTW, on beta4 jlime on qi servers I added a theora video player. It is the sample examle with libtheora. I added a bit of crappy code to control it a bit.. if you are interested to put it on openwrt I could give you the details. But if you have a clean mplayer (without patented stuff) then you do not need the theora example I have.. mplayer is 1000 times better. | 12:41 |
| wolfspraul | lekernel: do you know a good blog about diy radars? | 12:45 |
| lekernel | blog, no | 12:45 |
| wolfspraul | I think futureproject.org is basically just a syndication of danreetz.com and mattikariluoma.com, and dan seems to be the one blogging the most interesting stuff | 12:58 |
| wolfspraul | so I'll include danreetz.com in the planet, see how it goes. Also I will email him to notify him of the syndication, in case he doesn't like it... | 12:59 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: congrats for the signal quality! | 13:11 |
| wolfspraul | I understand your idea about reusing the clock was kia, but oh well | 13:11 |
| wolfspraul | I think it will also make the board more robust, even if the Ben clock would have been good, other devices may have different clock characteristics. | 13:12 |
| wolfspraul | it's just too much to reuse a digital SD clock in an RF application, I guess... | 13:12 |
| kyak | zrafa: thanks, will keep it in mind about theora player | 13:19 |
| wpwrak | thanks ! yes, apparently the clock is a bit too sensitive | 13:19 |
| wolfspraul | kyak: which feeds.conf are you using now? | 14:08 |
| wolfspraul | oh, I just see there is a feeds.conf committed in data/qi_lb60/conf now | 14:09 |
| wolfspraul | with qipackages first, but no revision on the openwrt packages feed. alright the, I'll try that one... | 14:10 |
| kyak | wolfspraul: yep, that one... | 14:54 |
| wolfspraul | kyak: I just got a compile error in fetchmail 6.3.19, oh well | 15:01 |
| wolfspraul | md5c.c | 15:01 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: for version 2.0, we can do the board with 4 layers and microvias. then i could route all the traces underneath the crystal :) | 17:39 |
| kristianpaul | any one can recommend a commad line tool for generating html index of a directory? | 18:06 |
| Jay7 | for i in *; do echo "<li>$i</li>" >> index.html; done :) | 18:11 |
| kristianpaul | lol :-) thanks ! | 18:13 |
| kristianpaul | hehe | 18:13 |
| kristianpaul | i need read man bash more often | 18:13 |
| Jay7 | yeah, it's useful sometimes :) | 18:15 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: btw, what kind of text do you want on the board ? | 18:26 |
| wolfspraul | hard to say. | 18:26 |
| wolfspraul | I think in general the cc-by or cc-by-sa logo is nice | 18:27 |
| wpwrak | pheew ... do you have that for kicad ? :) | 18:27 |
| wolfspraul | then I like to credit creators, so don't hesitate to put (c) Werner Almesberger on it :-) (although your name is long :-)) | 18:27 |
| wolfspraul | for kicad, not sure | 18:28 |
| wolfspraul | we can do it later | 18:28 |
| wolfspraul | without logo, you can just put cc-by-sa on it as text | 18:28 |
| wpwrak | i can put "cc-by-sa". in principle, there's a lot of room for text on the silk screen | 18:28 |
| wolfspraul | yeah just put the text there then, and it's fine | 18:29 |
| wpwrak | just because i don't have a silk screen at the moment, it all is on the copper layers | 18:29 |
| wpwrak | pick and place likes component outlines on the silk screen, don't they ? | 18:30 |
| wolfspraul | don't know | 18:31 |
| wpwrak | what other information to put ? the project name, QI-HW ? [IEEE] 802.15.4 ? or WPAN ? both ? version/date code for sure. i think i'll scrap the "8:10 CARD". it's kinda obvious when you look at it anyway. | 18:33 |
| wolfspraul | hmm | 18:44 |
| wolfspraul | date code is good, yes | 18:44 |
| wolfspraul | cc-by-sa, we had that | 18:44 |
| wolfspraul | 802.15.4 - sure why not? | 18:44 |
| wolfspraul | you can put a url there, for example the short qi-hw.com | 18:45 |
| wpwrak | ah, cool. that's handy, yes. | 18:47 |
| wpwrak | grrr. bloody zone construction algorithm crashes pcbnew every time i try to redo the digital zone. @#*%$! | 18:49 |
| wpwrak | that would be in fact one item that's probably fixed in a more recent version. at least i'd very much hope so :) | 18:50 |
| wpwrak | let's see if my electricity is good again ... | 18:52 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: btw it turns out the new jtag-serial boards we made only work in full-speed, not high-speed | 18:55 |
| wolfspraul | the ones yanjun luo made worked in high-speed too (after a fix) | 18:55 |
| wolfspraul | so we took on a few risks too many, something got wrong either in my schematics cleanup, or in boom, or manual sourcing, or production, or ... | 18:55 |
| wolfspraul | we'll track it down | 18:56 |
| wolfspraul | the good news is that full-speed is good enough right now for everybody to just use them, so it's only an annoying bug, but no drama | 18:56 |
| wpwrak | great that it's not a big issue. production tolerances and other such small things can be evil indeed. | 18:58 |
| wpwrak | we'll also have to figure out a way to production-test the wpan boards. hopefully some BER/PER measurements will enough. (thus not require a spectrum analyzer or usrp) | 18:59 |
| wpwrak | anyway, gotta run for now | 19:00 |
| wolfspraul | cya | 19:02 |
| wpwrak | adamw_: when making a low-cost board, do you normally put a silkscreen on both sides of a pcb ? or just the front ? | 20:32 |
| adamw_ | wpwrak, no regarding the cost on silkscreen on both sides. They are quite the same on two layers manufacturing. | 20:33 |
| wpwrak | any preference ? | 20:34 |
| adamw_ | just put them on both side you think they should be at there for more clearly and visualable. | 20:34 |
| adamw_ | no,, but if you want, I can ask them. | 20:35 |
| wpwrak | let's see if i can fit everything on one side ... | 20:36 |
| adamw_ | but from my points. you don't need to take into such considerations since it's a consideration. :-) | 20:36 |
| kristianpaul | just shirnk names :-) | 20:36 |
| adamw_ | yeah..if you could. | 20:36 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: they're already near the low end of my process :) | 20:37 |
| kristianpaul | oh | 20:37 |
| wpwrak | 7 mil line width, character cell nominally 40 x 40 mil (whatever kicad does with this .. the letter aren't square) | 20:39 |
| kristianpaul | adamw_: what for is the small spring that came in the probe bag? | 20:45 |
| kristianpaul | Hi there btw :-) | 20:45 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: when you remove the probe's clip-on cap, you see the needle-shaped tip and behind it a wide metal ring | 20:48 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: you can slide the spring on the metal ring such that the straight part of the spring is in parallel to the probe tip | 20:48 |
| adamw_ | kristianpaul, hmm...just wpwrak wrote to you. :) | 20:49 |
| kristianpaul | ah so is spare part? | 20:49 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: then you can touch ground with the spring and the signal with the tip. the advantage over using the crocodile clip for ground is that you have a MUCH smaller loop between signal and ground | 20:49 |
| kristianpaul | i need a picture.. | 20:49 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: it's not a spare. it's a different mode of operation | 20:50 |
| kristianpaul | ah | 20:50 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: mode 1: clip probe to the signal, crocodile to ground | 20:50 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: mode 2: crocodile to ground, but you remove the cap and touch the signal with the "needle" | 20:50 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: mode 3: touch signal with "needle" and touch ground with the spring | 20:50 |
| wpwrak | mode 3 is the most difficult to use but gives you the best signal fidelity | 20:51 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: by the way, have you noticed the ethernet port of the scope ? | 20:52 |
| kristianpaul | yes yes | 20:52 |
| kristianpaul | i got a sofware for that, i just dint tried yet.. | 20:52 |
| wpwrak | i think there's a little web server running in it. so it's quite easy to use. | 20:52 |
| wpwrak | there's more sophisticated software as well, yes | 20:53 |
| kristianpaul | if that allow me driver scope from computer will nice, the SCALE pot is tricky | 20:54 |
| kristianpaul | it like plays between min and max just touching it :-) | 20:54 |
| kristianpaul | s/pot/ajust pot | 20:54 |
| wpwrak | ah yes, i heard that | 20:54 |
| kristianpaul | i'll check webserver. let see | 20:55 |
| wpwrak | i'm not sure if it has dhcp. you may have to set the ip address via the scope's setup. (don't remember what it's called) | 20:55 |
| kristianpaul | np | 20:56 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: scope httpd, nice :-) | 21:06 |
| kristianpaul | i had to use static ip dunno, why dhcp dint worked.. | 21:08 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: enable the toolchain option for Octave and libgfortran http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/68914e0 | 21:10 |
| wpwrak | roh: tuxbrain once floated the idea of putting a "nose" under large ben extension boards. the nose would go into the lanyard hole and add a bit of mechanical stability. | 21:16 |
| wpwrak | roh: with atusd having grown so much, i'm beginning to consider this idea again ... | 21:17 |
| wpwrak | roh: the lanyard hole has a depth of about 3.3 mm. we need ~1 mm clearance to push-to-insert/release the board. this would leave about 2-2.3 mm for the nose. not a lot, but perhaps better than nothing. | 21:19 |
| wpwrak | roh: the lanyard hole is about 3.4 mm wide. so one could make such a nose by cutting a 1.6 mm PCB and gluing two pieces together. i like easy prototyping :) | 21:20 |
| wpwrak | roh: the atusd pcb would probably need a dent to help with positioning the nose. a hole would be better but may eat too much into the ground plane | 21:21 |
| wpwrak | silk on one side is enough. and i managed to shave 1.4 mm off the board's length :) | 21:25 |
| roh | wpwrak: i see | 21:33 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: dirtly made the atrf tools run with the new atusd board http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/ebe6671 | 22:14 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusd.brd: moved SLP_TR via a bit further from the chip http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/bf3189f | 22:14 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusd.brd: re-layout to slightly reduce size, and added more text http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/62994da | 22:14 |
| wpwrak | hmpf. orthography ... | 22:15 |
| wpwrak | so, if all testing goes well, this will be more or less the final circuit and layout. i may still shave off some of the ground plane left of the antenna and perhaps make that dent for the nose. | 22:19 |
| Action: kristianpaul git pull | 22:19 | |
| wpwrak | i realize that i should create a setup that lets me determine the directional characteristics of the antenna. at least close to the receiver, it changes quite a bit even for small movements. | 22:20 |
| kristianpaul | 40ppm do you measured that? | 22:22 |
| roh | wpwrak: heh. if you send me boards i can make you some acryllic lasercut holder to rotate it without having metal parts or so near it | 22:22 |
| kristianpaul | is a small (in components) design even with Xtal, i like :-) | 22:24 |
| kristianpaul | he, wonder if i can attach it to my sky atenna .. and see how long it goes :-) | 22:24 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: config.full_system-add-more-php5-modules.patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/15de829 | 22:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: config.full_system: add package sqlite2-cli http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/caf02b8 | 22:25 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: is it working the diff tool for schmatics? | 22:25 |
| kristianpaul | i want see diffs :-) | 22:26 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: feeds.conf add @revision to feeds.conf http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b2cc659 | 22:29 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: shold work .. lemme check ... | 22:35 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: yup. http://projects.qi-hardware.com/schhist/atusd/ | 22:35 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: (40 ppm) of course i did. http://projects.qi-hardware.com/schhist/cntr/ | 22:35 |
| kristianpaul | k | 22:36 |
| kristianpaul | looks nice :-) | 22:36 |
| wpwrak | roh: thanks :) but i think it's a lot faster if i cut a piece of wood ;-) | 22:36 |
| kristianpaul | btw how do you cut wood? i mean code.. | 22:38 |
| wpwrak | l8r .. gotta run | 22:40 |
| kristianpaul | bye | 22:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: add the MAINTAINER to package http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/40912c6 | 22:41 |
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