kyak | xiangfu: hi! do you remember the issue with gmenu2x started before loading of sound modules and those disturbing messages from alsa? | 05:16 |
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xiangfu | kyak: yes. | 05:17 |
kyak | i don't know if this is a good solution, but i load these modules from gmenu2x wrapper: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/kyak/tmp/gmenu2x | 05:17 |
kyak | it adds a small overhead when starting gmenu2x, but it is neglectable | 05:18 |
kyak | it's /usr/bin/gmenu2x | 05:18 |
xiangfu | kyak: ok. I am testing the gmenu2x time. need to know how much time the 'load_modules' need :) | 05:23 |
kyak | 0.38s | 05:24 |
kyak | i already tested, but your results may be different | 05:24 |
xiangfu | I remove the "./gmenu2x" from your version and old version files. | 05:27 |
xiangfu | your version: 0.50s | 05:27 |
xiangfu | old verison: 0.06s | 05:27 |
xiangfu | here | 05:27 |
kyak | would be better to leave load_modules only | 05:28 |
kyak | oh, ok | 05:28 |
kyak | i misunderstood | 05:28 |
kyak | ok, the overhead is 0.42s | 05:28 |
kyak | it is only needed when first starting gmenu2x | 05:29 |
kyak | maybe we can use different wrappers ? | 05:29 |
xiangfu | how about add something like: | 05:36 |
xiangfu | lsmod | grep snd_soc_qi_lb60 | 05:36 |
xiangfu | if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then | 05:36 |
xiangfu | sleep 1 | 05:36 |
xiangfu | fi | 05:36 |
xiangfu | in fact, I still don't understand why Lars build the sound as module. why we can just build the sound into kernel. | 05:38 |
xiangfu | maybe I need ask him in mailing list :) | 05:39 |
kyak | oh yeah | 05:39 |
kyak | makes sense to have monolithic kernel | 05:39 |
kyak | this would speed up boot, too | 05:40 |
kyak | i think it's better than wrappers :) | 05:40 |
xiangfu | if someone want start 'gmu' instead of 'gmenu2x' , he need the sound modules :) | 05:48 |
kyak | exactly | 05:49 |
kyak | or, i just want a fancy sound right after boot :) | 05:49 |
kyak | the one from Windows XP | 05:49 |
wpwrak | kyak: forget splash screens and such. when booting, show a little video clip, with a girl getting naked to some music. | 05:50 |
wpwrak | kyak: people will beg for the boot time to be increased ! ;-) | 05:51 |
kyak | awesome idea!: ) | 05:51 |
wpwrak | hmm, soldered an atusb in 135 minutes. not bad. i'm a bit reluctant to destroy the perfection and test it ... | 08:02 |
roh | wpwrak: :) | 08:19 |
qi-bot | [commit] kyak: fbterm now builds against both tiny and gnu iconv http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/8de229d | 09:04 |
qi-bot | [commit] kyak: gcc-mips: copy missing files manually http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5282f81 | 10:31 |
qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: f32x/: renamed OpenWRT target from "ben" to "ben_openwrt" and added "ben_jlime" http://qi-hw.com/p/f32xbase/9019985 | 10:43 |
qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/atrf-txrx/atrf-txrx.c (enter_test_mode_231): clean up and exit on error http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/110d5ab | 10:43 |
qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: flite: include in upstream http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/fe66b54 | 10:51 |
qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: gmenu2x: add mediatomb icon http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/75a5e5e | 10:51 |
qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: hnb: add default .hnbrc, thanks to mark adrian bell http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/8421020 | 10:51 |
kyak | xiangfu: having fun with flite :) i noticed that playing the resulting file with aplay produces much better result than playing the output immediately | 11:12 |
xiangfu | kyak: don't notice that. | 11:17 |
kyak | hmm, ok | 11:20 |
xiangfu | kyak: what is the text, you using in flite? | 11:25 |
kyak | xiangfu: compare flite -t "test string" play.wav && aplay play.wav and flite -t "test string" play | 11:26 |
kyak | the first one is much cleaner | 11:26 |
kyak | no "jittering" | 11:26 |
xiangfu | kyak: seems same here :), I can not find out the difference. | 11:33 |
kyak | strange.. | 11:34 |
kyak | flite -t "this is just a test string" play && flite -t "this is just a test string" play.wav && aplay play.wav | 11:35 |
kyak | maybe this way you can hear the difference? | 11:35 |
xiangfu | kyak: sorry. still same here. with 2.6.32.25 kernel image 12-14. | 11:43 |
kyak | xiangfu: ok, don't bother! still sounds not bad with aplay | 11:46 |
kyak | xiangfu: btw, it seems that "dialog" is also upstream | 11:49 |
xiangfu | kyak: yes. | 11:51 |
qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: dialog: remove it since it included by upstream feeds packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c269f76 | 11:53 |
qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/misctxrx.c (wait_for_interrupt): restore signal also after timeout http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/6ff235e | 11:54 |
qi-bot | [commit] Joachim Steiger: removed old files http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/17ab0e1 | 12:45 |
qi-bot | [commit] Joachim Steiger: added 27c3 release of case http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/3b3095f | 12:47 |
Action: Jay7 have found his nanonote at home | 15:41 | |
Jay7 | yeah.. it really need player control buttons at some side | 15:41 |
Jay7 | or at least wheel+ok/cancel buttons like zauruses | 15:41 |
Jay7 | or remote control like some players have (via 4th connector on audio jack) | 15:43 |
Jay7 | 4th ring even | 15:43 |
wpwrak | these wheels are surprisingly expensive | 16:08 |
Jay7 | buttons are cheaper :) | 16:08 |
wpwrak | the ben already has a ton of these :) | 16:14 |
Jay7 | no one is accessible when ben is closed :) | 16:15 |
Jay7 | at least 3 button needed: play/pause, stop, ff | 16:16 |
Jay7 | s/ff/next track/ | 16:16 |
wpwrak | yeha, it's not really designed as a media player | 16:20 |
wpwrak | i.e., the dictionary shows :) | 16:20 |
wpwrak | ild love to | 16:21 |
wpwrak | get rid of the function keys, though | 16:21 |
kristianpaul | touchpad ! | 16:21 |
wpwrak | wrong century :) | 16:21 |
Jay7 | trackpoint! | 16:21 |
wpwrak | (the fn keys) | 16:21 |
wpwrak | analog joystick ! | 16:21 |
kristianpaul | yeah fn are not good | 16:21 |
Jay7 | wpwrak: how to switch VT instead? :) | 16:21 |
Jay7 | openpandora have lot of joysticks :) | 16:22 |
kristianpaul | too many | 16:22 |
wpwrak | Jay7: (vt) have the fn keys as some key + modifier | 16:22 |
kristianpaul | how old is qwerty | 16:26 |
kristianpaul | ?.. | 16:26 |
wpwrak | 1878 | 16:28 |
wpwrak | (according to wikipedia) | 16:35 |
wolfspra1l | wpwrak: lekernel and I had an excellent day at the reichl-emv.de testing lab! | 17:25 |
wpwrak | wolfspra1l: so it is as good as it looks ? :) | 17:26 |
wolfspra1l | for milkymist one, the tests went great, everything passed except for one test related to an ESD induced magnetic field | 17:26 |
wpwrak | wolfspra1l: excellent. congratulations ! | 17:26 |
Action: kristianpaul quack | 17:26 | |
kristianpaul | :-) | 17:26 |
wolfspra1l | and for that one, we already found a solution in the form of an additional shielding layer on the bottom of the case (under the pcb) | 17:26 |
wolfspra1l | and, amazing, Berlin is like little China, we sourced a 0.2mm 99.5% aluminum foil, had it cut to 149x124mm, got 100 pieces for 25 EUR, all in 2 hours :-) | 17:27 |
kristianpaul | That explaing why lekernel had troubles in 27C3 in some particular place? | 17:27 |
wolfspra1l | only the holes were missing but we drilled them by hand | 17:27 |
wpwrak | wow ;-) | 17:28 |
wolfspra1l | roh will polish this improvement a little, but basically it's under control | 17:28 |
wolfspra1l | and except for that all other tests passed | 17:28 |
wolfspra1l | also, this must be the cheapest ce/fcc testing - total is only 450 EUR including report! :-) | 17:28 |
wolfspra1l | and | 17:28 |
wolfspra1l | it gets better | 17:28 |
wpwrak | that's a very good result. | 17:28 |
wolfspra1l | the guy has a whole daniel duesentrieb style lab, and sebastien will get access for 'personal research' | 17:29 |
wpwrak | hey ! when's the next plane to berlin ? ;-) | 17:29 |
wolfspra1l | I mentioned the ben-wpan project and he said sure he can help. | 17:29 |
wolfspra1l | so as of right now, that's definitely the place I would first try to go to. | 17:29 |
wolfspra1l | if roh is involved in the case, either roh or Sebastien can go there, with a little irc session on your end to back it up | 17:30 |
wpwrak | perfect. ben-wpan will probably be more of a challenge, since it's designed to radiate stuff. | 17:30 |
wolfspra1l | Sebastien also offered to go there with the ben-wpan, since he is interested to go to the lab anyway (some radar stuff he wants to do...) | 17:30 |
wolfspra1l | absolutely no problem | 17:30 |
wolfspra1l | as I had suspected, this guy is a really good source and if he and us stays around, I'm sure we will work with him more... | 17:31 |
wolfspra1l | totally fits our style and culture as well | 17:31 |
wpwrak | sounds wonderful | 17:32 |
wolfspra1l | kristianpaul: I don't think the esd/field related bug we found is the same as the video-in issues Sebastien saw once (they went away the next day btw). | 17:33 |
kristianpaul | oh, SAR research nice :-) | 17:34 |
kristianpaul | greats news then :-) | 17:35 |
wolfspra1l | yes I think so. | 17:36 |
wolfspra1l | it was a long and hard day, but it was good. | 17:36 |
wolfspra1l | we still need to improve the shielding solution a little, but more important is that all the other tests passed (quite a few...) | 17:37 |
wolfspra1l | and we have a fully understood and verified solution for that one test that failed | 17:37 |
wpwrak | excellent. now i have to figure our why atusd produces such an ugly spectrum. i was hoping it was me getting test mode wrong with the new chip, but atusb (with the 231) looks quite sane. | 17:42 |
wpwrak | s/our/out/ | 17:42 |
wolfspra1l | wpwrak: btw, roh pushed the latest case dxf file, but he wanted to call the subdir 'cad' not 'cam'. oh well :-) | 17:42 |
wolfspra1l | http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/m1/source/tree/master/ | 17:42 |
wolfspra1l | so it's cad now... | 17:42 |
wpwrak | (cad/cam) as long as it's unique .. ;-) | 17:43 |
wolfspra1l | I still want to add a little more, for example a little description/documentation about this production process, as well as details for some of the parts, like screws, spacers, etc. | 17:43 |
wolfspra1l | but most importantly the root dxf he uses for production is now published, and a little .svg assembly manual (ikea style) as well | 17:43 |
wpwrak | (assembly manual) oh, very good ! | 17:44 |
wolfspra1l | yeah | 17:44 |
wolfspra1l | it's great | 17:44 |
wolfspra1l | some more info about specs of screws, spacers, etc. missing - will follow... | 17:44 |
wpwrak | ** (inkscape:8207): WARNING **: Unable to open linked file: /home/labor/Desktop/Kunden/Milkymist-Howto/Mm1_rc1_parts_on_pcb_farb.png | 17:45 |
wolfspra1l | he :-) | 17:45 |
wolfspra1l | roh: you there? | 17:45 |
wpwrak | (in response to inkscape milkymist-assemble-howto.svg) | 17:46 |
wpwrak | do the rubber feet go on top of the screws ? or are they located on the side of them ? | 17:48 |
wpwrak | in the latter case, it would be clearer if they had their own dashed line | 17:48 |
kristianpaul | If you remove the linked image is more clear | 17:59 |
kristianpaul | yes rubber position is confusing | 18:00 |
kristianpaul | guess is on top | 18:01 |
roh | wpwrak: the rubberfeet are mounted diagonally to the center from the screws | 20:03 |
roh | just like 1 or 1.5cm offset from the hole | 20:03 |
wpwrak | roh: ah, good. makes them simpler. the drawing out be clearer if you added a dashed line and maybe even a dashed ellipse for their final resting place for them too. | 20:53 |
wpwrak | s/out/would/ | 20:53 |
roh | wpwrak: will talk about that with my inkscape-operator | 20:54 |
wpwrak | hehe :) | 20:56 |
kristianpaul | http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Mmap | 21:20 |
kristianpaul | "Automake: Escaping makefile hell" | 21:29 |
kristianpaul | gn8 | 21:30 |
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