| rafa | I know how to write argentina in ch :D | 01:14 |
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| rafa | ?9รท4 | 01:14 |
| logictheo | I found Issue 73 "software controlled brightness, but it's currently not implemented" . Before I went to sleep I wanted read an ebook but the brightness was too bright. Maybe I should change all the text to brown so that it doesn't hurt my eyes(as a temporary 'workaround' solution)? | 05:19 |
| logictheo | (by the way I use 'lynx oz-of-ozma.txt' just as an example of how I currently read ebooks) | 05:19 |
| kyak | since you are reading in web browser, you indeed can change the text color to grey or brown | 05:21 |
| bartbes | does anybody know what this means? | 05:38 |
| bartbes | Makefile:63: *** Download/default is missing the VERSION field.. Stop. | 05:38 |
| bartbes | that went well... | 05:49 |
| logictheo | I underestimated the ease of changing colors in lynx | 06:20 |
| bartbes | go bot: | 06:36 |
| bartbes | oh | 06:36 |
| bartbes | oops | 06:37 |
| qi-bot | [commit] bartbes: Updated to new version of nlove (and now uses hg repo) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c6552a1 | 06:38 |
| bartbes | (had to rebase, forgot to pull first) | 06:38 |
| kyak | changing color in lynx as easy as adding relevent html tags | 06:42 |
| wpwrak | hmm, this looks nice: http://github.com/blog/699-making-github-more-open-git-backed-wikis | 08:14 |
| bartbes | wpwrak: it sure does | 08:30 |
| wpwrak | here's another one, haskell instead of ruby this time: http://github.com/jgm/gitit | 08:33 |
| wpwrak | uses pandoc for conversion. alas, pandoc can't use MediaWiki as input. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ | 08:33 |
| wpwrak | github uses some multilingual markup system, interfacing to markdown, textile, rdoc, org, creole, rst, asciidoc, pod, man (groff), all but the last two completely unknown to me. | 08:39 |
| bartbes | markdown is epic | 08:40 |
| bartbes | and textile is what they were using before | 08:40 |
| wpwrak | is markdown good ? at least the basic version looks fairly limited. e.g., no tables. | 08:41 |
| wpwrak | which of course spawned extensions, like in pandoc. history repeating itself over and over again and again ;-) | 08:41 |
| bartbes | Markdown's syntax is intended for one purpose: to be used as a | 08:43 |
| bartbes | format for *writing* for the web. | 08:43 |
| bartbes | Markdown is not a replacement for HTML, or even close to it. | 08:43 |
| bartbes | (from a syntax manual thingy) | 08:43 |
| wpwrak | yeah, i saw this | 08:44 |
| wpwrak | my question is - what would be painless enough to actually make a transition possible ? | 08:44 |
| wpwrak | transition of the qi-hw wiki. i hate web-only interfaces :) | 08:45 |
| wolfspraul | I am pretty sure MediaWiki will continue to be the #1 free wiki software, nothing comes even close to it. | 08:47 |
| wolfspraul | I won't load more tools on my admin shoulders, MediaWiki + Indefero and the assorted tools around them is enough | 08:47 |
| wolfspraul | there is this MediaWiki filesystem project, but unfortunately it's abandoned | 08:47 |
| wolfspraul | maybe it will be reactivated one day, who knows | 08:48 |
| wolfspraul | the moment werner has his filesystem view he won't care about the rest anymore :-) | 08:48 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: yeah, the filesystem view is what i'm after ;-) | 08:48 |
| wpwrak | that is, read and write | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | sure | 08:49 |
| wpwrak | alas, this means that you really ought to have a version control system underneath | 08:49 |
| wolfspraul | also my personal opinion, while this gitwiki at github is really cool, and it's no surprise that the GIThub audience likes it, I am always a bit careful when a good tool is over-extended into areas it was not originally designed for | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | learnt my lesson | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | I remember how I was totally hooked on extending IRC to multi-party video chat once... | 08:50 |
| wolfspraul | argh | 08:50 |
| wpwrak | ;-)))) | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | git was designed to deal with source codes, and the very delicate dependencies among the many different files | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | we all know it | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | conflict resolutions, cherry-picking, what not | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | if a wiki is about _documents_, then that's just different | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | documents have embedded graphs, pictures, even videos | 08:51 |
| wolfspraul | document != source code, in the end | 08:52 |
| wolfspraul | so let's see | 08:52 |
| kristianpaul | sphinx.pocoo.org | 08:52 |
| wolfspraul | it definitely seems like an improvement from the earlier github wiki | 08:52 |
| wpwrak | "put myself on fire, jumped out of an airplane, into a swamp, in the middle of a war zone" may be an instructive experience, but then i doesn't necessarily mean that you should shun transportation in general ;-) | 08:52 |
| wolfspraul | so no wonder they are forcefully upgrading everyone to the new git-based one... | 08:52 |
| wolfspraul | like I said, when it comes to wikis, I feel very good with MediaWiki | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | right now | 08:53 |
| wolfspraul | it's a really really great piece of software | 08:53 |
| wpwrak | i think the web-based interface can just stay simple. it wouldn't lose any functionality. you can reserve the fancy bits for the command line. | 08:53 |
| wpwrak | last time i checked, the conflict resolution model was along the lines of "someone else changed what you were editing - please reload and do it again". has this changed ? | 08:55 |
| wpwrak | (speaking of mediawiki) | 08:55 |
| wolfspraul | he, don't know | 08:55 |
| wolfspraul | this happens so rarely... it's not sources :-) | 08:56 |
| wpwrak | it must happen a lot in the edit wars on wikipedia :) | 08:56 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: Revert "Replace OpenWrt banner with a custom NanoNote banner." http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7000e6e | 10:09 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: move the NanoNote banner to data/ folder http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/70a8137 | 10:09 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: move NanoNote special files to data/ folder http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/d5e9dcd | 10:17 |
| viric | Hello | 10:17 |
| viric | I'm trying to write an udev rule for when the 'usb0' network device appears (nanonote) | 10:17 |
| viric | How to match it? SUBSYSTEM=="net", NAME=="usb0" does not work for me | 10:18 |
| viric | ah, found in the openmoko web, I think | 10:18 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: move NanoNote special files(build, reflash_ben.sh) to data/ folder http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/cae1615 | 10:26 |
| kristianpaul | http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ME_218_ColdVirus.png :) | 10:32 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ME_219_MoneyOnTheInternet1.png | 10:34 |
| kristianpaul | FIY http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/category/ip/ | 10:34 |
| kristianpaul | bbl | 10:34 |
| wpwrak | also interesting - a distributed bug tracker: http://bugseverywhere.org/be/show/HomePage | 11:34 |
| fossrox | heya DNS777 :D | 12:02 |
| DNS777 | hola :) | 12:02 |
| viric | I want to put images accurately on screen... | 12:48 |
| viric | how much do I have to worry about the special LCD in the nanonote? | 12:48 |
| viric | and what is the way to worry about it? | 12:49 |
| kyak | viric: why do you have to worry? | 13:10 |
| kyak | use fbi or imgv for viewing images | 13:11 |
| viric | I'm writing my own viewer | 13:12 |
| viric | I want to display 15000x15000 pixels jpegs | 13:12 |
| viric | And both fbi and imgv load all the uncompressed image to memory. | 13:12 |
| viric | so, no way. | 13:12 |
| viric | Do they have code for the special screen of the nanonote? | 13:13 |
| kyak | you check? | 13:15 |
| viric | I did not check | 13:15 |
| kyak | you should at least understand how they work before trying to do something of your own | 13:15 |
| viric | I know how they work | 13:16 |
| viric | I have zoom working and I'm doing the scroll. | 13:16 |
| kyak | but you didn't check, how do you know? | 13:16 |
| viric | Ah, sure I checked imgv and fbi for the image loading part. | 13:16 |
| kyak | zoom is working and scrolling, too in fbi | 13:16 |
| viric | It is not that I *wanted* to write my own :) | 13:16 |
| viric | I know that they work. But they cannot load a 15000x15000 jpeg in the nanonote :) | 13:16 |
| kyak | i'm not sure my laptop can do that ;) | 13:17 |
| kyak | what are you trying to do anyway? | 13:17 |
| viric | kyak: I mean that with libjpeg, it's not needed to load all the uncompressed pixels into memory. | 13:17 |
| viric | kyak: but that is what both imgv and fbi do. | 13:17 |
| kyak | can you write a patch for them not to do that? | 13:18 |
| viric | I don't mind having repeated decoding. | 13:18 |
| viric | For fbi, impossible. It's all designed for having the image whole on memory | 13:18 |
| viric | For imgv... it would be about making the code much bigger. | 13:18 |
| kyak | i found fbi pretty fast.. again, what is your target? why you attempt to view this big images in Ben? | 13:19 |
| viric | I have maps. | 13:19 |
| kyak | it's like 45 screens to scroll to view the whole image (without resize) | 13:19 |
| viric | I want to use the nanonote as map viewer. | 13:19 |
| viric | Sure, I'll have zoom. | 13:19 |
| kyak | have you tryed NanoMap? | 13:19 |
| viric | My maps are cartographic | 13:20 |
| viric | not PGS | 13:20 |
| viric | not road-related | 13:20 |
| kyak | that'a 19th century, my friend | 13:20 |
| kyak | :) | 13:20 |
| viric | I don't want to use it as map for a city | 13:20 |
| viric | I do mountain climbing :) | 13:20 |
| viric | I also use compasses :) | 13:21 |
| kyak | ok | 13:21 |
| kyak | how about that - you can split your big image into pieces | 13:21 |
| kyak | and write a script for viewing them | 13:21 |
| kyak | using imgv or fbi | 13:21 |
| viric | It's far easier to write a SDL program, for me :) | 13:21 |
| viric | and I enjoy the process, too. So, all fu. | 13:21 |
| viric | fun | 13:22 |
| kyak | well as you wish.. if you ever succeed, please let me know :) | 13:22 |
| viric | ok, don't worry | 13:22 |
| viric | but I imagine I'll do something simple that will "work for me" :) | 13:22 |
| kyak | actually, NanoMap is working this way | 13:22 |
| kyak | in has tiles and downloads/displays them | 13:23 |
| viric | And how much will take a 15000x15000 map ? : | 13:23 |
| viric | :) | 13:23 |
| kyak | you can calculate | 13:23 |
| viric | In fact 5000x5000 would be enough | 13:23 |
| viric | a map I have here of that size takes 10MB. | 13:23 |
| kyak | i used NanoMap with ~1Gb data, which i pre-downloaded on my laptop | 13:24 |
| kyak | it ran smooth | 13:24 |
| kyak | tiles might be the way to go | 13:24 |
| kyak | instead of messing with memory/not memory :) | 13:24 |
| viric | no, I don't like tiles :) | 13:24 |
| viric | nanomap is for another job, I think. | 13:25 |
| viric | I only want to be able to display big pictures. | 13:25 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: ben-cyrillic: updated some glyphs, added pre-png file http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0be554f | 15:20 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: boom/Makefile: new target "db" to build or update the database http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/6ba3a56 | 18:29 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: manu/Makefile: run a recursive make on all subdirectories http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/a6c65c7 | 18:29 |
| wpwrak | phew. now this works again, too. | 18:29 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Erwin Lopez: Uploaded the first Beta to test in the development group http://qi-hw.com/p/sie-ceimtun/8f2a9cc | 19:36 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: i have some delays here about the scope meter, so i deciced not forgot it but debug later and trust the data from the SiGE evb, so i hope have some raw data this sunday :) | 20:56 |
| wolfspraul | kristianpaul: he. no worries. | 21:05 |
| wolfspraul | delay = you are working on the right thing :-) | 21:05 |
| wolfspraul | you should ask wpwrak about it... | 21:06 |
| wpwrak | ;-)) | 21:06 |
| wolfspraul | he's the master of producing great results, but also the master of delays | 21:06 |
| kristianpaul | i'll do the CPLD thinf that wpwrak is askign me for long time ago ;) | 21:06 |
| kristianpaul | jsut in case | 21:06 |
| kristianpaul | thats was actually i wanted to debug signal first | 21:06 |
| kristianpaul | but damn we need copyleft scopemeters ;-) | 21:07 |
| kristianpaul | yeah i want delay to make sure all works as is supposed to, not suppose that it will work after powering up | 21:07 |
| kristianpaul | s/i/why | 21:08 |
| wpwrak | kristianpaul: what i think would be nice to have is a number of fast but low-resolution ADCs. that way, they're not so expensive. then, hook all this up to an FPGA and connect a few GB of PC memory on the other side. | 21:21 |
| kristianpaul | i got one ADC 10Mhz from Ti | 21:22 |
| kristianpaul | but was before you advised me i need at least 80Mhz.. | 21:22 |
| kristianpaul | hmm | 21:22 |
| kristianpaul | good point | 21:22 |
| kristianpaul | fast no res | 21:22 |
| kristianpaul | s/no/low | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | few GB.. | 21:23 |
| wpwrak | 10 MHz is DC ;-) | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | he | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | i just have 800Mb ram actually :-/ | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | but yeah ram is cheap those days.. | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: are you aware of soem of this ADC you recommend from TI?.. | 21:24 |
| wpwrak | the trickiest bit would be visualization | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | s/from TI/in TI stock | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | indeed | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | timing.. | 21:24 |
| wpwrak | hmm, i found something that looked halfway promising, but i don't remember from which company. 6 bit resolution. | 21:25 |
| kristianpaul | oh | 21:25 |
| wpwrak | i think you need at least 5 bits for signal analysis. 6 should be quite comfortable. then make 8 or more channels. | 21:26 |
| kristianpaul | with 3 channels is enought for now | 21:27 |
| kristianpaul | or i'll end doing a logic analizer.. with the SIE | 21:27 |
| kristianpaul | but i *really* want explore/debug analog signaling before jump digital. | 21:27 |
| wpwrak | i'm surprised you're so worried about signal integrity here. had some bad experiences ? | 21:28 |
| kristianpaul | no bad no good. so i want check | 21:28 |
| kristianpaul | no precious experiences ;) | 21:28 |
| kristianpaul | previous* | 21:28 |
| wpwrak | you're not telling me this is your first circuit ? :-) | 21:29 |
| kristianpaul | as i said i can ignore this, mae SPI-to SPI on the CPLD | 21:29 |
| kristianpaul | no no | 21:29 |
| wpwrak | (ignore) yup. maybe there's even some test pattern mode or such ? | 21:30 |
| kristianpaul | i can look for a pattern on data out right | 21:30 |
| wpwrak | (ignore) in any case, you can tell by the clock whether your signal is right or wrong. clock is usually the fastest and thus most sensitive. | 21:31 |
| kristianpaul | the light will come when i got my first PRN code founded ;-) | 21:31 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: i was thinking same about clock | 21:31 |
| kristianpaul | i have thec counter :) | 21:31 |
| kristianpaul | i'll move to digital.. | 21:32 |
| kristianpaul | :-) | 21:32 |
| kristianpaul | if something go wrong (readings) i can have the lab next week i think | 21:32 |
| kristianpaul | and debug | 21:35 |
| wpwrak | sounds like a plan :) clocks are tricky anyway. it's easy to get a crystal wrong, etc. | 21:36 |
| kristianpaul | wpwrak: (first circuit) in terms of radio receiving signal (not counting classical RF modules), yup | 21:37 |
| kristianpaul | hmm | 21:37 |
| kristianpaul | well yes i know i must do some clock domain sync | 21:37 |
| kristianpaul | i was reading about it sebastien push me as soo he noticed i was doing a counter | 21:38 |
| wpwrak | (clock domain sync) you mean in the spi-spi bridge ? | 21:39 |
| kristianpaul | well not | 21:40 |
| kristianpaul | in the counter part | 21:40 |
| kristianpaul | i'm not sure if apply for SPI-to-SPI | 21:40 |
| kristianpaul | i was planing a 3 state buffer and no more.. | 21:40 |
| kristianpaul | or do some "memory" blocks | 21:41 |
| wpwrak | hmm. i think the tricky area when it comes to clock domains will be the access demultiplexing logic. of course, if you have dual-ported ram blocks, they may take care of some of the headache. | 21:43 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Erwin Lopez: Changed src in Beta with example to all 4 PWM at 100% http://qi-hw.com/p/sie-ceimtun/cc225fc | 23:28 |
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